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October 24, 2013, 05:34:21 AM
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Hmm, the list says my verification e-mail was not received. However, I did send the e-mail five days ago - to the address labratATlabratmining.com. Is this not the correct e-mail address, or are some verifications still pending? Thank you.
Just resend.   But before you hit send,  confirm the message verifies by cutting and pasting from the email.

I had to redo mine several times before it would verify - the handling of tabs and spaces is very annoying. Be sure to check for trailing spaces,  and double spaces within lines.



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October 24, 2013, 05:35:00 AM
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Oh boy. Over 20% of the Shares have not received a claim yet. 11427/55207. I assume this goes down to 10 or 5 % in the next two weeks. But it still means some free (someone else paid for it) hashing power for each share.
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October 24, 2013, 05:43:11 AM
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"The List" -- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwZCh0jtSZkwNGVkRk50Wno3Q00/edit?usp=sharing

If you Failed Verification, that means one of many things.  You didn't put in the required info, you sent me an armory signature, or you did some weird stuff that I couldn't figure out.

This does not mean you can't send me another email!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you sent me an armory one, I just didn't get a chance to set up an armory.  Send me the email again as I lost track of which were armory.

Some individuals left the body of the signed message blank or added carriage returns to the end, and I figured out some of them that I should have gave up on sooner.  Those of you who failed... Just put EXACTLY  what you put in the signed message in the email and give the message signature.

I guess I sent my first message too early - signed message sent again - I checked the verification prior to sending

TYVM
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October 24, 2013, 05:47:00 AM
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Great, more fees limiting liquidity. 0.025 fee on shares which are going for 0.05-0.07 right now.

You're only hurting the little guy who wishes to buy 1 or 2 shares at a time with a limited mining income.

I hope this is not the final solution as to how trading is going to happen?

I'd rather offer my developer services to create you a decent automated way Smiley

Umm, 0.5% fee is OK. But 0.025BTC min fee seems quite much.

Besides that, hope there's a solution working soon.
It's not final, @Lab_Rat is looking into automated solutions.  (And the nastyfans website looks kind of cool....)

* grnbrg takes off any sort of "official" LRM hat.  My thoughts here.....

As far as the 0.025BTC fee....  I'll be honest and say that I suggested that.  Until there is an automated system that only needs to be reviewed occasionally, trades are going to have to be handled manually.  Between co-ordinating the emails, verifying signatures, re-requesting invalid signatures, hand-holding the users who don't really understand signatures, making and double-checking the changes to the master list, I figure that each transaction is going to take me 5-10 minutes, probably more.  If there is a transaction for 2 bonds at 0.08BTC each, the 0.5% fee would be 0.0008BTC, or roughly 15 cents.  To be perfectly honest, I don't want to bother with small transactions.  (I know there are people who want small transactions, and I understand their frustration.  But my time is worth more than $2 an hour.) Setting a minimum fee makes it worth my while to process trades.  $5 didn't seem like an unreasonable number.

But, as above.  The process isn't final.  Should the fee be smaller?  How small?  $2 per transaction?  Maybe a flat fee for a transaction of any number of bonds?  Again - until an automated system is set up, this will be manual....

I'm trying to foster some discussion here, and hopefully get away from the surprise changes...  Smiley
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I for one am very grateful LRM has the support of grnbrg - I know what he does for a living and am 1000% confident is time and focus is worth waaaaay more than BTC0.025 to deal with the issue in the interim.

TYVM grnbrg for supporting the transition

Cheers
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October 24, 2013, 05:56:10 AM
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Looks like I'm all set! Thanks Lab_Rat! Cheesy

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October 24, 2013, 07:09:37 AM
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Tried it again, hope it works this time
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October 24, 2013, 08:56:57 AM
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Cawe ha link on how to sign again please im lost.
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October 24, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
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Hmm, the list says my verification e-mail was not received. However, I did send the e-mail five days ago - to the address labratATlabratmining.com. Is this not the correct e-mail address, or are some verifications still pending? Thank you.

Same here. I double checked that the signature resolved the message to my address and re-sent it.
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October 24, 2013, 01:07:19 PM
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Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170
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October 24, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
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Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170

Can't say I'm happy to see people lose money/bonds/btc BUT it is in everyone's "Verified" interest that the Did not receive stay this way and are absorbed back into LRM.

Sorry, gotta look out for #1!
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October 24, 2013, 01:25:47 PM
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A guide to verify please some of us still need to by today.
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October 24, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
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A guide to verify please some of us still need to by today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S88ciN9DsRk

^^^ Try this...
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October 24, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
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A guide to verify please some of us still need to by today.


Due to issues with people not having THEIR OWN bitcoin addresses on BitFunder, I will be postponing this weeks dividends in an attempt to help give people more time to get their address situated.

This means the dividends due to go out Oct. 19th and Oct. 26th will BOTH go out on Oct. 26th.

Tuesday, Oct. 22nd, I will be freezing LRM on BitFunder and taking the final asset list.  At this time I am requesting that all individuals send a signed message in the format detailed below between Tuesday, Oct. 22nd Noon and Thursday, Oct. 24th 11:59 PM Eastern Standard Time.

If you fail to send a signed message via email to labrat@labratmining.com by the end of the time specified, your dividends will be rolled over to the following week.

Thursday, Oct. 31st will be the cut off for the week following.

If you do not verify ownership of your bonds via this method by Thursday, Nov. 7th, your bonds and accrued dividends will be absorbed by LRM.

I am giving everyone plenty of warning, so make sure your address on BitFunder is one of your own.

Format for signed message must be as follows:

EMail Title:
BTC address (must be the address on the bitfunder asset list which is the same one you signed the message with)

EMail Body:
Bonds: # owned
Name: (Name on BitCoinTalk or BFL Forums, not your real name)
BTC Address: (Preferred address, may keep the same or change)


Message Signature: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


The information in the body should be copy pasted from the signed message to your email, no leading or following spaces other than to separate the message signature from the message. No additional information necessary.


How to sign a message using blockchain.info:
- Log into blockchain.info
- Click on receive money
   - click on the actions button to the right of the address your using for labrat
   - click on sign message
      - enter email body as detailed in the post/s above
   - click sign message
   - copy "signature" output
Close "Sign Message" window

Using the message and signature, you can create a new email which you can send to labrat - this process proves that you have control of the BTC address.


How to VERIFY your message:
- Log into blockchain.info
- Click on receive money
   - Click on "More Actions" (bottom right - below the Balance)
   - Verify Message
   - Enter details
   - Click Verify - you should get a green "Message Successfully Verified" notice
Close "Verify Message" window

- Log out of blockchain.info if you are finished

The private key is what enables you to spend the BTC associated with the address.

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/7536/how-do-i-export-my-private-keys-from-my-bitcoin-qt-client

http://www.blockrun.com/faq/how_to_sign

And a sample signed message that I posted yesterday:


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Test message.  Ignore the dashes above and below when you copy and paste this to verify.

If you can verify this, you've probably figured out enough to sign messages with your own keys.
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Signed with:  1grnbrg3Ea4t6bxHvQKRvorbBeLNDXv2N

Signature:  HKT07NvQ31Mz3mpMUD+38RSnEPa0/HyrE0zx8qse5THhq3SDrsBHVLt+UogA1bsxqwy+MhYkRy1Uc+ph+627bXI=



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October 24, 2013, 01:34:36 PM
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Nice ones lads.  Cheesy
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October 24, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Last edit: October 24, 2013, 03:23:33 PM by maqifrnswa
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Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170

waited weighted by shares:
Verified: 68%
Failed: 11%
Did not receive: 21%
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October 24, 2013, 02:13:23 PM
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Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170

waited by shares:
Verified: 68%
Failed: 11%
Did not receive: 21%

Weighted?
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October 24, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
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Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170

waited by shares:
Verified: 68%
Failed: 11%
Did not receive: 21%

Didn't think of doing that, slapped it into excel right now and got the following for those interested
As of 10/24/2013 : 10:14am EST
Shares     Status             Percentage
37713      Verified             68.31%
6067        Failed               10.99%
11427      Did not receive   20.70%
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October 24, 2013, 02:51:24 PM
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SWEET - I'm verified and the numbers are correct - thanks for all of your hard work!

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October 24, 2013, 03:23:12 PM
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Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170

waited by shares:
Verified: 68%
Failed: 11%
Did not receive: 21%

Weighted?


actually, I made a timer for the number of seconds each share was worth and waited until it was done. i then calculated how long I waited for each of them divided by the total amount of time I waited. Thus, "waited."   Tongue
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October 24, 2013, 04:04:50 PM
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Shares     Status             Percentage
37713      Verified             68.31%
6067        Failed               10.99%
11427      Did not receive   20.70%

Looking at the "DID NOT RECEIVE", just the first 5 holders make up 52.77% of those 11,427.
I'm guessing that those folks holding north of 500 shares are going to be pretty motivated
to get registered. My guess is that they are simply off the grid and haven't heard the news.
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