[ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING***

[allinvain]

Seriously, how naive are you people?!  The cost to produce something has virtually nothing to do with the retail price.  There's this thing called "supply and demand" that determines the price of everything we buy.  If no one is willing to buy something at a particular price, then the price will drop.

But in this market of $60-80 USB Block Erupters (on eBay) there is very little chance that we will see significantly lower prices on miners unless the price of Bitcoin really hits the shitter.  If/when that happens companies like Bitfury won't be able to give their stuff away.

There is also something called price gouging. And you should not call _us_ naive. Naive are the people that accept and pay the ebay price. Nay, naive is perhaps not the word; foolish is a better one.

[Soros Shorts]

Seriously, how naive are you people?!  The cost to produce something has virtually nothing to do with the retail price.  There's this thing called "supply and demand" that determines the price of everything we buy.  If no one is willing to buy something at a particular price, then the price will drop.

But in this market of $60-80 USB Block Erupters (on eBay) there is very little chance that we will see significantly lower prices on miners unless the price of Bitcoin really hits the shitter.  If/when that happens companies like Bitfury won't be able to give their stuff away.

I am curious to see who will buy an H-card priced at $999. In the past, I have had the tendency to buy overpriced hardware for the fun factor, but this just doesn't appeal to me. I have an M-board with 8 empty slots and I feel some urge to fill them up. I could spend $8K to fill up these slots. Or I could use the $8K to pre-order 1.4 TH/s worth of Coincraft hardware for end of Feb delivery. I am more inclined to do the latter.

[klondike_bar]

Seriously, how naive are you people?!  The cost to produce something has virtually nothing to do with the retail price.  There's this thing called "supply and demand" that determines the price of everything we buy.  If no one is willing to buy something at a particular price, then the price will drop.

But in this market of $60-80 USB Block Erupters (on eBay) there is very little chance that we will see significantly lower prices on miners unless the price of Bitcoin really hits the shitter.  If/when that happens companies like Bitfury won't be able to give their stuff away.

I am curious to see who will buy an H-card priced at $999. In the past, I have had the tendency to buy overpriced hardware for the fun factor, but this just doesn't appeal to me. I have an M-board with 8 empty slots and I feel some urge to fill them up. I could spend $8K to fill up these slots. Or I could use the $8K to pre-order 1.4 TH/s worth of Coincraft hardware for end of Feb delivery. I am more inclined to do the latter.

you could use that 8K to buy two antminer systems = 400GHash and the power consmption is only a little over 2W/GH

[kendog77]

Pricing of the new H-cards looks like a blatant cash grab to try to make up some of the money pico stocks lost when some funds from their wallets were stolen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg3769061#msg3769061

I was optimistic about future Bitfury offerings, but it's obvious from the latest pricing that they aren't really interested in selling mining hardware to end users, so I'll stick with Knc.

The only good thing about the Dave's latest prices is that they won't sell many units, so it won't impact the difficulty much...

[tarmi]

The only good thing about the Dave's latest prices is that they won't sell many units, so it won't impact the difficulty much...

those units are probably already hashing.

[loshia]

Pricing of the new H-cards looks like a blatant cash grab to try to make up some of the money pico stocks lost when some funds from their wallets were stolen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg3769061#msg3769061

I was optimistic about future Bitfury offerings, but it's obvious from the latest pricing that they aren't really interested in selling mining hardware to end users, so I'll stick with Knc.

The only good thing about the Dave's latest prices is that they won't sell many units, so it won't impact the difficulty much...

But how much hashing power they will deploy? As long as wafer cost should be low already.

[fractal02]

Pricing of the new H-cards looks like a blatant cash grab to try to make up some of the money pico stocks lost when some funds from their wallets were stolen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg3769061#msg3769061

I was optimistic about future Bitfury offerings, but it's obvious from the latest pricing that they aren't really interested in selling mining hardware to end users, so I'll stick with Knc.

The only good thing about the Dave's latest prices is that they won't sell many units, so it won't impact the difficulty much...

Don't worry about the sell of the H-cards.

if they don't sell them...these cards go directly to their mine...

ASICminer business model.

[fractal02]

And we have 1 sucker customer for the V2 H-card !



On the other side for the old V1 H-cards it's not BlackFriday at wallmart...i don't know why...  

[xstr8guy]

Point taken for the "in stock" 

But pick your poison here : http://technobit.eu/index.php?id_product=57&controller=product&id_lang=1

Better have this competitve cost Hardware in 1 month than bitfury cards without M-board now...

Yes...we are in a free market...and we have some choice in fact.

Have you read the Technobit thread lately?  There's trouble in paradise, it seems.

[xstr8guy]

Seriously, how naive are you people?!  The cost to produce something has virtually nothing to do with the retail price.  There's this thing called "supply and demand" that determines the price of everything we buy.  If no one is willing to buy something at a particular price, then the price will drop.

But in this market of $60-80 USB Block Erupters (on eBay) there is very little chance that we will see significantly lower prices on miners unless the price of Bitcoin really hits the shitter.  If/when that happens companies like Bitfury won't be able to give their stuff away.

I am curious to see who will buy an H-card priced at $999. In the past, I have had the tendency to buy overpriced hardware for the fun factor, but this just doesn't appeal to me. I have an M-board with 8 empty slots and I feel some urge to fill them up. I could spend $8K to fill up these slots. Or I could use the $8K to pre-order 1.4 TH/s worth of Coincraft hardware for end of Feb delivery. I am more inclined to do the latter.

I completely see your logic.  I'm at the same place but I'm leaning towards Cointerra instead of CoinCraft.  I just get a feeling that CoinCraft is a bit hinky... same with VMC and BlackArrow.

[greaterninja]

i have 5 x version 2.3 M board starter kits.   I will sell each starter kit for $999.  Each kit hashes 33-38 Gh/s.


pm me.

[af_newbie]

Maybe Dave's availability counter is broken, cause I don't see the quantity available changing from 1000 at all. What's wrong with you fools, buy the boards now!!

Fools eh?

Only slightly below cex.io, but maybe that was the intention.  If BTC goes to $5000+, MBP might sell some of these boards, but not now...

[allinvain]

i have 5 x version 2.3 M board starter kits.   I will sell each starter kit for $999.  Each kit hashes 33-38 Gh/s.


pm me.

Are you willing to sell just the h-boards ?

[xstr8guy]

i have 5 x version 2.3 M board starter kits.   I will sell each starter kit for $999.  Each kit hashes 33-38 Gh/s.


pm me.

Are you willing to sell just the h-boards ?

Get an extra M board too.  They may come in handy later. 

[shade88]

I though this was suppose to give old customers, that stick with BitFury till the end, a chance to fill their kits. So why not give us a better chance to break even?

At $999 means BTC need to be around 2000$ now for it to make sense since old customers most likely will purchase with BTC.

[Kaega]

I though this was suppose to give old customers, that stick with BitFury till the end, a chance to fill their kits. So why not give us a better chance to break even?

At $999 means BTC need to be around 2000$ now for it to make sense since old customers most likely will purchase with BTC.

No it means for every 1 you buy, his mine gets 8-9 "for free".  Buy up, there's no competition atm.

[Keefe]

If the exchange rate at Bitstamp gets back up to about $1100/BTC by Monday night, I'll probably buy a few v1.2 cards at $999. At $1200/BTC, I'll buy a bunch more.

Or if Dave will accept 0.85 BTC per card now and ship Tue, I'll buy a bunch.

[Keefe]

I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow.  Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast.  I will sell as many of those as you guys demand.

Dave, if I buy some v1 H-cards today at $749, when will they ship? The shop doesn't make it clear whether those are shipping immediately or backordered.

[zurg]

I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow.  Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast.  I will sell as many of those as you guys demand.

Dave, if I buy some v1 H-cards today at $749, when will they ship? The shop doesn't make it clear whether those are shipping immediately or backordered.

And where did you exactly find those $749 cards?

[dracore]

I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow.  Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast.  I will sell as many of those as you guys demand.

Dave, if I buy some v1 H-cards today at $749, when will they ship? The shop doesn't make it clear whether those are shipping immediately or backordered.

And where did you exactly find those $749 cards?

You need to buy in bulk of 10 or more