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I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow. Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast. I will sell as many of those as you guys demand.
Dave, if I buy some v1 H-cards today at $749, when will they ship? The shop doesn't make it clear whether those are shipping immediately or backordered. And where did you exactly find those $749 cards? You need to buy in bulk of 10 or more So $ 7490 for 250 GH/s ?  Great reward for old customers... Antminer is a steal compared to this price (180-200 GH/s @ 4.25 BTC ~ $ 3616) |
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Jutarul
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December 09, 2013, 10:12:58 PM |
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I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow. Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast. I will sell as many of those as you guys demand.
Dave, if I buy some v1 H-cards today at $749, when will they ship? The shop doesn't make it clear whether those are shipping immediately or backordered. And where did you exactly find those $749 cards? You need to buy in bulk of 10 or more So $ 7490 for 250 GH/s ? Great reward for old customers... Antminer is a steal compared to this price (180 GH/s @ 4.25 BTC ~ $ 3616) As stated previously. Pricing mining equipment in fiat is toxic. It needs to be priced in bitcoin and quoted in fiat. Any experienced miner will tell you that. It's sad that dave doesn't implement it this way. |
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December 09, 2013, 10:31:50 PM |
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You can price it in BTC if you want or even in LTC, WDC or what ever.
This H-cards are overpriced.
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Bitfury : 0,0352BTC@GH/s
Antminer : 0,0236BTC@GH/s
I'm maybe not as expericenced as you but i put my money where the best ratio BTC@GH/s is.
And it's definitely no more at Buttfurry.
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December 10, 2013, 02:40:47 AM |
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I just got a reply from Yvonne:
Q: "Are v1.2 H-cards in hand for immediate (i.e. same/next day) shipment yet?"
A: "They are in stock and ready to ship."
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Jutarul
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December 10, 2013, 03:09:55 AM |
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You can price it in BTC if you want or even in LTC, WDC or what ever.
This H-cards are overpriced.
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Agreed. The pricing issue is two fold. First the mechanics, which involves choice of currency, then marketing, which determines the amount. They're certainly not eager to sell out. |
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Keefe
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December 10, 2013, 03:11:50 AM |
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I just bought 10 v1.2 cards at 0.803 BTC ($749) each. Thanks Dave for the fair price.
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December 10, 2013, 03:17:45 AM |
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I just bought 10 v1.2 cards at 8.03 BTC ($749) each. Thanks Dave for the fair price.
Let us know if lube is going to be a part of the kit you are going to receive.  |
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December 10, 2013, 03:21:12 AM |
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I just bought 10 v1.2 cards at 8.03 BTC ($749) each. Thanks Dave for the fair price.
Let us know if lube is going to be a part of the kit you are going to receive. Oops, off by a zero, meant 0.803 BTC. BTW, I'm planning on overclocking them. They wouldn't be worth it otherwise. |
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December 10, 2013, 03:54:47 AM |
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I think min. 10 buy for discount too high but min. 5 buy for discount and not many of us got 7k or more to buy it.
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December 10, 2013, 04:03:12 AM |
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I plan to turn on sales of H-cards tomorrow. Remember, V1 H-cards will take a bit longer to get, but our manufacturer is very fast. I will sell as many of those as you guys demand.
Dave, if I buy some v1 H-cards today at $749, when will they ship? The shop doesn't make it clear whether those are shipping immediately or backordered. And where did you exactly find those $749 cards? You need to buy in bulk of 10 or more So $ 7490 for 250 GH/s ? Great reward for old customers... Antminer is a steal compared to this price (180-200 GH/s @ 4.25 BTC ~ $ 3616) 10 Bitfury boards are easily 300GH/s out of the box. Bitfury 10 board discount = $25/GH AntMiner auction price 4.25BTC = $22/GH Pretty darn close. On a related note, I just set up my first AntMiner tonight. Quite nice! The network configuration was a bit tricky though. |
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December 10, 2013, 04:03:20 AM |
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Well the part that I am annoyed with on top of the price is the fact I cant even buy a V3 M-board. So even if I wanted to spend the btc to buy an H-Board it would be useless.
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December 10, 2013, 04:25:48 AM |
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I just bought 10 v1.2 cards at 8.03 BTC ($749) each. Thanks Dave for the fair price.
Let us know if lube is going to be a part of the kit you are going to receive. Oops, off by a zero, meant 0.803 BTC. BTW, I'm planning on overclocking them. They wouldn't be worth it otherwise. Whether it's worth it either way is seriously debatable. But you don't risk as much by buying in bulk. You'll only lose $518 in the first 6 months on 10 boards at $749 per. But after a year you will cut that to a loss of only $458. Yes, in the second 6 months after you pay the pool and electric you will generate $60. Of course if you can't afford 10 boards and have to purchase at $1000 per you might as well burn $300 of that investment because you won't see it. Figures based on Coinish with BTC price and difficulty rate increase at current levels.Psychologically I would have preferred it if they stayed out of stock. The result is the same ------ spending my mining coins elsewhere. But it saddens me because I was one of the first to order a starter kit(#12) and enjoyed working with Dave and his staff. And I would not have a problem with a break even result or even a loss of $50 in a year or so. But there are too many lower priced options out there to lose $300 a board. |
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December 10, 2013, 04:51:54 AM |
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Hi Dave,
Will there be a chip sale sometime soon? How about the broken / eol boards?
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December 10, 2013, 12:39:22 PM |
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I love Dave's gear, but I have to make sound financial decisions (is there such a thing in BTC mining?), picked up some Antminer gear.
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December 10, 2013, 01:59:26 PM |
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I love Dave's gear, but I have to make sound financial decisions (is there such a thing in BTC mining?), picked up some Antminer gear.
I have to agree. assuming the bitfury cards can be pushed to a stable 35GHash each, you need 5-6 cards (or $5000, $4500 if buying more than 10) to have the same hashrate as a single 4.25BTC antminer (which comes with heatsinks, fan, and a stable caseframe) - and does not require the same card-by-card optimization process. of course, the bitfury cards draw half as much power, but at this point 1w/GH difference is negligible that said, would anyone be interetsed in splitting on a purchase of 5 card each? I would reship from toronto, and be happy to use escrow |
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tom99
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December 10, 2013, 02:29:43 PM |
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welcome to 900m diff now
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December 10, 2013, 02:36:13 PM |
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Even at the discount rate these don't make financial sense. What a shame, I really wanted to top off two m-boards that I have.
klondike_bar, which h-cards version are you interested in? I wonder if we're allowed to mix and match the type as long as the total ends up being at or over 10.
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klondike_bar
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December 10, 2013, 03:19:39 PM |
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Even at the discount rate these don't make financial sense. What a shame, I really wanted to top off two m-boards that I have.
klondike_bar, which h-cards version are you interested in? I wonder if we're allowed to mix and match the type as long as the total ends up being at or over 10.
V1.2 cards. I want 3-5 card for myself, and will happily reship within canada or to USA via xpresspost (2-3 day service) if anyone wants to go on the purchase with me. |
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December 10, 2013, 11:40:46 PM |
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Even at the discount rate these don't make financial sense. What a shame, I really wanted to top off two m-boards that I have.
klondike_bar, which h-cards version are you interested in? I wonder if we're allowed to mix and match the type as long as the total ends up being at or over 10.
V1.2 cards. I want 3-5 card for myself, and will happily reship within canada or to USA via xpresspost (2-3 day service) if anyone wants to go on the purchase with me. Hmm, I'd go in but I only need 2 cards. I have 6 empty slots on the m-board but as far as I'm aware anything beyond 12 and the SPI chain errors can introduce instability into the rig. So for mixing an matching cards 12 h-cards in one rig is the max suggested. For full rigs it does not matter as they verified that all the cards work together before shipping. I also have one card that is under-performing (17 GH) due to quite a few dead chips on it, so I may want to replace it. Thus I could go in for 3 cards with you, but we'd still need 2 more assuming you take 5. |
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December 10, 2013, 11:47:04 PM |
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Even at the discount rate these don't make financial sense. What a shame, I really wanted to top off two m-boards that I have.
klondike_bar, which h-cards version are you interested in? I wonder if we're allowed to mix and match the type as long as the total ends up being at or over 10.
V1.2 cards. I want 3-5 card for myself, and will happily reship within canada or to USA via xpresspost (2-3 day service) if anyone wants to go on the purchase with me. I would do up to 4 if this is going to be done in the next couple days. |
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