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August 14, 2013, 01:19:36 PM
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iCEBREAKERS voice is the very same one that attacked a newbie poster by suggesting that his parents had sex with animals and publicised videos of those acts.

In my world that is deplorable.  In my world that should be a crime.  He needs to be removed from these forums and the sooner it happens the better.  Unless that is, he can explain his actions.


This is not a personal vendetta, but I am no longer willing to accept that someone is able to get away with this behaviour simply because they think they are anonymous.

I feel a duty of care to fellow contributors and iCEBREAKER has comitted a crime which he is accountable for.

It's not difficult to recognise precident when we look at those who have been prosecuted for lesser online crimes.

If this person doesn't cease his activity, I shall personally be taking it up with lawyers.



The man has shown his true colours. No apology offered to all those he offended or ripped off here. He just expects to slide back on in here like a snake and will wait for the next opportunity to dump his shares or pump then dump to take more money off ACtM shareholders. Treat anything he says or quotes here with extreme suspicion - it is YOUR money he is after.
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August 14, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
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Who was ripped off?

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August 14, 2013, 02:40:27 PM
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Who was ripped off?

Everyone who was directly encouraged to panic sell on this thread and the Official ACtM thread by Micebreaker when he helped spread and hype up the false WSJ news.

He didn't create the news but look how he hyped it up for his own ends it - here is just one example of how he helped create the big sell off and spread panic, before buying cheap shares off those he duped:


Lots of derisive, dismissive discussion about Lewis' disruptive $200 million Avalon investment ^here^ and in other posts.

It sure is easy to pat ourselves on the back and scoff at their ambitious, bleeding-edge 20nm roadmap.

Much less mentioned among the JV cheerleader crew is Cointerra's impending angel-funded full-custom 28nm chip.

Do you hear that creaking noise?  That's the sound of our popsicle stand's plastic and particle board supports being crushed by Cointerra's tank treads.

Whistling past the graveyard isn't going to help us avoid being obsolete before Christmas.


I predict a wave of bankruptcies, consolidation/aquisitions, and mergers in the ASIC space as human/financial capital requirements to stay competitive begin overwhelming the garage inventor outfits.

and his very next post :

As things stand now, we're heading into a potential bloodbath.

Once he created this mess and lost ACtM investors a lot of money he can back on bragging he was the new JR and that he had made 20k USD.

Somehow I'm the JR Ewing of BTCTalk today....

I guess it comes with the territory, being a master artist working in the medium of controversy, with trolling as a chief tool in my belt.
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August 14, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
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Who was ripped off?

Anybody he was able to trick into panic selling when he first started spreading his FUD on here.
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August 14, 2013, 02:42:59 PM
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Alright, so who wants to start taking bets for when we'll get word of Avalon chips arriving?

I'll put the over/under at Sept. 1, 2013
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August 14, 2013, 02:45:35 PM
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Alright, so who wants to start taking bets for when we'll get word of Avalon chips arriving?

I'll put the over/under at Sept. 1, 2013

Over.  Not that I don't think they're coming but I don't see anything coming from avalon saying this will be in two weeks timeframee.

"Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent." -Keynes
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August 14, 2013, 02:54:43 PM
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Alright, so who wants to start taking bets for when we'll get word of Avalon chips arriving?

I'll put the over/under at Sept. 1, 2013

Over.  Not that I don't think they're coming but I don't see anything coming from avalon saying this will be in two weeks timeframee.

I thought I remember Yifu saying that shipping would resume (start?) in the next couple/few days on Aug. 9th.

I guess we can keep our fingers crossed.
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August 14, 2013, 03:05:19 PM
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I thought I remember Yifu saying that shipping would resume (start?) in the next couple/few days on Aug. 9th.

Yes, Bitsyncom put this page up (http://www.avalon-asics.com) on Aug 9, which ends on page two with:

> (you can take this as chips will resume shipping by end of next week for now.)

However, here is an alternative view from the day before above announcement:

Pure speculation here. I have no inside info.

Alydian recently announced that they'll be offering hosted, high-capacity mining rigs at the end of the month. Pricing seems pretty high though.

Avalon is long past due on delivery of their bulk chip orders, with no communication other than the recent "I'm not dead" post. Photos suggest the chips exist but no-one has received any.

Recent rumors suggest that Avalon received a large investment from a wealthy patron. That rumor was debunked, but perhaps there is a kernel of truth.

I speculate that Avalon got a HUGE order from Alydian within the last few weeks. Alydian offered to pay a substantial premium over the asking price to jump the line and get the first batches of chips. All parties have been silent while the details were being worked out.

Alydian gets first-mover advantage, Avalon gets a huge pile of cash, and those who ordered chips will get an apology, a refund, and a small percentage of Avalon's profit to soften the blow.
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August 14, 2013, 03:15:03 PM
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looks like this guy just got a DHL tracking number from avalon batch #3. Is this the same batch as ActM chips?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272026.0
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August 14, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
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I thought I remember Yifu saying that shipping would resume (start?) in the next couple/few days on Aug. 9th.

Yes, Bitsyncom put this page up (http://www.avalon-asics.com) on Aug 9, which ends on page two with:

> (you can take this as chips will resume shipping by end of next week for now.)

However, here is an alternative view from the day before above announcement:

Pure speculation here. I have no inside info.

Alydian recently announced that they'll be offering hosted, high-capacity mining rigs at the end of the month. Pricing seems pretty high though.

Avalon is long past due on delivery of their bulk chip orders, with no communication other than the recent "I'm not dead" post. Photos suggest the chips exist but no-one has received any.

Recent rumors suggest that Avalon received a large investment from a wealthy patron. That rumor was debunked, but perhaps there is a kernel of truth.

I speculate that Avalon got a HUGE order from Alydian within the last few weeks. Alydian offered to pay a substantial premium over the asking price to jump the line and get the first batches of chips. All parties have been silent while the details were being worked out.

Alydian gets first-mover advantage, Avalon gets a huge pile of cash, and those who ordered chips will get an apology, a refund, and a small percentage of Avalon's profit to soften the blow.

I understand it's entirely speculation, but if there's any truth to it, I can't imagine why anyone would give further business to Avalon.
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August 14, 2013, 03:33:28 PM
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looks like this guy just got a DHL tracking number from avalon batch #3. Is this the same batch as ActM chips?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272026.0

Batch 3 refers to the third batch of Avalon mining rigs. Chips do not have batches AFAIK and are allegedly shipped in the order that they were received
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August 14, 2013, 03:50:59 PM
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Who was ripped off?

Everyone who was directly encouraged to panic sell on this thread and the Official ACtM thread by Micebreaker when he helped spread and hype up the false WSJ news.

So... apparent newbs with copious shares of ACtM with no better source of ownership-decision-influencing information than iCEBREAKER. Got it.

BTCitcointalk 1%ers manipulate the currency and deceive its user community.
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August 14, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
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looks like this guy just got a DHL tracking number from avalon batch #3. Is this the same batch as ActM chips?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272026.0

Batch 3 refers to the third batch of Avalon mining rigs. Chips do not have batches AFAIK and are allegedly shipped in the order that they were received

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
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August 14, 2013, 06:13:32 PM
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Any ideas for why Labcoin appears to be taking so much of the free BTCGarden coins? Cheaper share price?
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August 14, 2013, 06:22:52 PM
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Any ideas for why Labcoin appears to be taking so much of the free BTCGarden coins? Cheaper share price?

Neither are good choices  but LC doesn't have the preorder overhead that ActM has which will be its demise.
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August 14, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
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Any ideas for why Labcoin appears to be taking so much of the free BTCGarden coins? Cheaper share price?

Neither are good choices  but LC doesn't have the preorder overhead that ActM has which will be its demise.


You're awfully active in the Labcoin and ActM threads to be of that mindset.

What's the play then?
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August 14, 2013, 06:32:07 PM
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Any ideas for why Labcoin appears to be taking so much of the free BTCGarden coins? Cheaper share price?

Neither are good choices  but LC doesn't have the preorder overhead that ActM has which will be its demise.


You're awfully active in the Labcoin and ActM threads to be of that mindset.

What's the play then?

To drive down the price as much as possible by spreading uncertainty.  Pretty obvious.
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August 14, 2013, 06:35:05 PM
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Any ideas for why Labcoin appears to be taking so much of the free BTCGarden coins? Cheaper share price?

Neither are good choices  but LC doesn't have the preorder overhead that ActM has which will be its demise.


You're awfully active in the Labcoin and ActM threads to be of that mindset.

What's the play then?

Heck if I know, BTCGARDEN was our best chance for a shot at the hashrate title. But I think there is no way ActM is going to pull off a development, mining, and retail operation as a startup.
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August 14, 2013, 06:36:07 PM
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To drive down the price as much as possible by spreading uncertainty.  Pretty obvious.

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August 14, 2013, 07:38:13 PM
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Any ideas for why Labcoin appears to be taking so much of the free BTCGarden coins? Cheaper share price?

I'm currently happy with my position in ACTM as it relates to the percentage of my portfolio.  The BTCGarden refund didn't change that.  I'm guessing it is the same for others here.

There is admittedly a lack of viable alternative investments at the moment so that may change.
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