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July 19, 2018, 12:43:44 PM
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Just checked comments on FB and replies on their Tweet... Seems to be near to 100% negative sentiment now:

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/1019267474573938688



The team is responsible for this worse situation we see nothing on development side even they didn't make any progress to keep their promise to make it list on any big exchange. Actually they get started with very wrong publicity campaign and it made the panic all investors and till now they are not understanding what to do to make it fix.


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July 19, 2018, 12:57:29 PM
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Just checked comments on FB and replies on their Tweet... Seems to be near to 100% negative sentiment now:

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/1019267474573938688



The team is responsible for this worse situation we see nothing on development side even they didn't make any progress to keep their promise to make it list on any big exchange. Actually they get started with very wrong publicity campaign and it made the panic all investors and till now they are not understanding what to do to make it fix.


They do not need to understand.  It's too simple. Pay to binance/okex/huobi/...  and get listed and investors will be happy.
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July 19, 2018, 03:59:04 PM
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Ok

Now they delay ........ Again the exchange

Some admin says few days , but they delay till August 10

After august will be another delay ...........Again

What a shit promise from this shitdroid


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July 19, 2018, 10:39:33 PM
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Ok

Now they delay ........ Again the exchange

Some admin says few days , but they delay till August 10

After august will be another delay ...........Again

What a shit promise from this shitdroid

Just wasting your time waiting for this scam project, sure after 10 aug will delay again, they just playing all investor until all tired and they gone
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July 20, 2018, 11:25:05 AM
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Some comments from their FB page:

Manuel Schröder: Do you believe it's a good idea to say on Twitter "We consider legal action against such libel causing #FUD & reputation loss of #savedroid ecosystem" because the SatisGroup believed YOUR FUD-campaign? Wasn't it you who pushed out "Fakenews" that caused Fear, uncertainty and doubt and a loss of reputation? If you believe to have the right to sue the SatisGroup, shouldn't your Investors at least have the right to get a refund?

Raj Kumar C: BTC crossed 7400$ .... could you please list exchange now.

Turyahabwe:
Dickson When will Saveroid be listed???


Tolga Kiran:
Tolga KiranAgain and again live broadcast, for what? It's best to list the coin on an exchange.

Cliff Wong: They have such a thick skin knowing that so many negative comments and they still pretend that the communities likes them! How sad is that??

Nii Laryea: When will u list svd and how is the cost of one after listing

Andreas Pielmeier: Look yassin, look all the comments. U FAILED. SAVEDROID FAILED. U are just few poor liars. Law will handle it one day.

Cliff Wong: This project is a death coin walking!!


Elkasmi Ahmed: It is really a big failure this project, it is necessary to see the returns on Facebook, Tweeter or Telegram !!! once the token will be put on the market the price will be 0.0001 € here it will lose 1000 times the starting value

Zedenk Gargamel :ITS time to list madafaka


Sophia Manzoor:
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Rahul Sap: Guys they will keep fooling us like this only..n will not list the coin till tr app is ready and live..bec if they list now ..we all will dump this nonsense coin..n they know it very well..secondly any top 5 exchange will charge hefty amount to list this coin..n after tr drama..just forget about top 5 exchange..just need my money back from this idiots..













Patar Stafar: The project is going to fail so bad... Investors will be happy if they get a 10th of their investment back.. Actually they should get sued for their bullshit.. And people should get their money back

Emmanuel Chibugo: Why are you guys so wicked and heartless? U used top5 exchange as marketing strategy to sell ur ico. As if that wasn't enough u asked they community if the want to go to the already agreed exchange which is bancor, hitbtc, idex and tidex or wait for 6 weeks for top5 because the have changed their listing process. But this is over 7 weeks since the"wait for top5" exchange won still no good news. Now u guys are telling us u will go ahead and list on the 4 provided exchange which have no volume. U did a failed pr stunt the community forgave u, u lied over and over the forgave u but u can't pay this investors back with good exchange with volume. U got $50m but can't pay for good exchange. Hitbtc is facing a lawsuit, bancor was hacked few weeks ago. Idex have only $2m trading volume tidex very low. Ur plan was never pure for ur investors. SVD will never hit 0.01$ in this exchanges, no coin survived hitbtc in the last few months now they all dropped - 50% below the ico price. Savedroid have too much bad review all over Google which will definitely scare buyers. So we should go ahead and accept our fate and endure the lost of our money. Good luck Yassin but u will surely pay for all this.











I think the answer needs only two sentences:

The whole Savedroid Team are time bandits, they say a lot because a day is Long

Every day they change what they say when it sounds better than that they told before, only to Keep People calm,
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July 20, 2018, 02:05:06 PM
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After 3 months same news over and over again, not listed on exchange, can you return back my money SVD we want refund. I'm really frustrated
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July 20, 2018, 06:28:25 PM
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Finally seeing a listing date. I hope they keep their words this time and don't cancel it, just because Bitcoin probably will fall back to 6.XXX$ again in 3 weeks.
Other than that it's a joke with the top 5 exchange. There probably was never a top 5 exchange and like the PR-Stunt, the Top 5 was just PR also to attract investors. That's what I'm thinking.
Gonna dump my tokens right away on the exchanges and finally can move on to other projects.
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July 20, 2018, 08:29:37 PM
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Problem really is that they've damaged trust how I've never seen it before in a project that is no scam. Will be very hard to heal...
Agree with that on 100%, though I'm not so experienced in crypto as you but I dint see such project management behavior too from the my very beginning in crypto world. And yes it will be very hard to restore confidence, but it is possible I think, it will require a lot of hard work but it is possible to do.
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July 20, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
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You must pay to binance, huobi , etc  Then SVD price will grow  10x

Sorry man but this is fully bullshit. Binance already has a lot of money and and they list many projects for free, they just need to see a good team, really working product (main net launched) and big target audience or real community of project. But even this doesn't guarantee x10 ROI, especially if savedriod will decide to do nothing and just pay 5 million for listing - there will be -x10 in that case even on Binance. This project needs to restore confidence before listing, it is important.
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July 21, 2018, 08:02:53 AM
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Problem really is that they've damaged trust how I've never seen it before in a project that is no scam. Will be very hard to heal...
Agree with that on 100%, though I'm not so experienced in crypto as you but I dint see such project management behavior too from the my very beginning in crypto world. And yes it will be very hard to restore confidence, but it is possible I think, it will require a lot of hard work but it is possible to do.


If it only were about the trust of own Investors it would probably be possible. But it's not just about that. I don't want to imply it's 100% impossible but in my opinion it's this way:

The PR-Stunt didn't have just short time impact. Savedroid often apologized for the "hard time" they gave their Investors, referring to the 24 hours they pretended to be vanished. That's nothing compared to the longterm impact especially on the own brand and therefore on the way this project is seen by the public. The study they are fighting now is just one example and interestingly they seem to see this study as overly damaging, but in my opinion there is some dishonesty in play here. The difference is not that the study is more damaging than all the articles that are out there anyway. The difference is that the study can be attacked (because it's inaccurate) while the articles are a direct result out of their own actions. But all the articles are as bad for their reputation as the study - the study is not more meaningful. At the same time, even if inaccurate - also the study is a result of their own actions and while it's right to set the record straight it's stupid to publicly threat with legal actions.

What I try to say here is: I believe the team has not learned much. There is a lack of ability to anticipate community and public reaction and they don't seem to understand how much they show with moves like that. That problem is not just about the future SVD price and not just short term. In my opinion that is a fundamental problem.
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July 21, 2018, 03:01:07 PM
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Problem really is that they've damaged trust how I've never seen it before in a project that is no scam. Will be very hard to heal...
Agree with that on 100%, though I'm not so experienced in crypto as you but I dint see such project management behavior too from the my very beginning in crypto world. And yes it will be very hard to restore confidence, but it is possible I think, it will require a lot of hard work but it is possible to do.


If it only were about the trust of own Investors it would probably be possible. But it's not just about that. I don't want to imply it's 100% impossible but in my opinion it's this way:

The PR-Stunt didn't have just short time impact. Savedroid often apologized for the "hard time" they gave their Investors, referring to the 24 hours they pretended to be vanished. That's nothing compared to the longterm impact especially on the own brand and therefore on the way this project is seen by the public. The study they are fighting now is just one example and interestingly they seem to see this study as overly damaging, but in my opinion there is some dishonesty in play here. The difference is not that the study is more damaging than all the articles that are out there anyway. The difference is that the study can be attacked (because it's inaccurate) while the articles are a direct result out of their own actions. But all the articles are as bad for their reputation as the study - the study is not more meaningful. At the same time, even if inaccurate - also the study is a result of their own actions and while it's right to set the record straight it's stupid to publicly threat with legal actions.

What I try to say here is: I believe the team has not learned much. There is a lack of ability to anticipate community and public reaction and they don't seem to understand how much they show with moves like that. That problem is not just about the future SVD price and not just short term. In my opinion that is a fundamental problem.

The summary of this project is, no one gonna buy this shit token even 1 satoshi, end of story hehehe
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July 21, 2018, 03:41:23 PM
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Do you remember the good old grey banker? He had a way to get your hard earned money with small hidden fees. Well he is gone and in comes Savedroid to save the day. There is nothing grey about them. They take 50M$ from their in investors and then just laugh them in their faces.
Hidden fees?
No, Sir, all fees are above board here!
How about 15% on every single transaction?
And with a beautiful AI algorithm they will make you transact if it is sunny outside!
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July 21, 2018, 05:59:57 PM
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Problem really is that they've damaged trust how I've never seen it before in a project that is no scam. Will be very hard to heal...
Agree with that on 100%, though I'm not so experienced in crypto as you but I dint see such project management behavior too from the my very beginning in crypto world. And yes it will be very hard to restore confidence, but it is possible I think, it will require a lot of hard work but it is possible to do.


If it only were about the trust of own Investors it would probably be possible. But it's not just about that. I don't want to imply it's 100% impossible but in my opinion it's this way:

The PR-Stunt didn't have just short time impact. Savedroid often apologized for the "hard time" they gave their Investors, referring to the 24 hours they pretended to be vanished. That's nothing compared to the longterm impact especially on the own brand and therefore on the way this project is seen by the public. The study they are fighting now is just one example and interestingly they seem to see this study as overly damaging, but in my opinion there is some dishonesty in play here. The difference is not that the study is more damaging than all the articles that are out there anyway. The difference is that the study can be attacked (because it's inaccurate) while the articles are a direct result out of their own actions. But all the articles are as bad for their reputation as the study - the study is not more meaningful. At the same time, even if inaccurate - also the study is a result of their own actions and while it's right to set the record straight it's stupid to publicly threat with legal actions.

What I try to say here is: I believe the team has not learned much. There is a lack of ability to anticipate community and public reaction and they don't seem to understand how much they show with moves like that. That problem is not just about the future SVD price and not just short term. In my opinion that is a fundamental problem.
yes, I agree, they either do not want to accept the situation and begin to correct it or just very stupid and blind and this may ruin them completely. And I do not want to say that i believe in the team and that they can correct the situation, I spoke about the fact that it is possible to do this with a lot of effort and time. But of course, first of all they need to see what they have done, accept it and build a strong plan to fix this, hope they will do this or just refund investors and go to hell.
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July 21, 2018, 07:54:38 PM
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Even if bullish activities return how can we expect SVD to perform well when there is no supporting infrastructure. Here I refer at exchanges to provide enough liquidity to take part in speculation. To be serious on current exchanges I don't expect this market will move significant. As holder I find myself in a close street where no option is left.

Question is if they are able to get this on a good exchange or if not. It doesn't look good for sure and I don't believe all the reasons they've given in the past. If I would be invested: Short-term I would only look at sentiment. That's really bad for now and I don't expect that to change any time soon, but a high-volume/liqudity-exchange would help of course. At the same time: Even if the mood of the community would change it would need so much to change how Savedroid is seen by the general public. Whoever googles it finds the Scam-Headlines. The team underestimated how dangerous it was to play with that and I believe they still underestimate how hard it will be to regain trust and to be considered as reputable service and team.

A more interesting question is if this project could have longterm-potential and if the team has the competence to deliver. I personally don't believe in the use-case because I don't believe that there are many who would want to use Crypto to "safe money". Crypto attracts another kind of people and there are so many competitors out there, and even more will come, who make it easy and convenient to buy into Crypto. I don't see anything special in Savedroid, besides the "gamificiation-approach" with the smooves. But that also makes it expensive (15% fees for each action is a lot) while it doesn't provide much real use.

But, the use case and if ppl could find it attractive is something I don't know enough about. If I should be wrong it will need a lot of time to get traction - that is true for nearly all services (good exchanges may be an exception, like Binance). Considered that this team has near to zero experience in this space (Crypto), I believe that they are not able to anticipate technical problems as well and run into other kinds of trouble in the future.  

The problem out of Investor-perspective may be:

1) Short-term it's about sentiment and that is not good
2) Longterm it's about real/fundamental potential. Even in best case that would need some time
3) At the same time there are a lot of other opportunities, especially if the market should turn bullish


I see this rather a long term invest and do not plan to sell when this finally hits the exchanges. Right now the climate for ICO's is toxic and unless the SEC decides in favor of the recent filing regarding ETFs this might continue for much longer. Considering who filed this request this time I see however a realistic chance that the SEC approves it this time. Indeed there are many other opportunities, less ICOs but coins you can buy for large discounts.

Regarding the use case, I have not seen the app yet but from what I know so far it's sounds like a lot of people could benefit from it, however there were similar projects that combined Crypto Saving with AI like Daneel and they did not take off either, were trading far below ICO price last time I checked. But I see Savedroid superior compared to Daneel as they do not "borrow" their AI from IBM (Watson) and create something of their own.

The stunt did hurt the brand for sure, the explanation of the CEO afterwards made sense for me, but the large majority never watched that and indeed if you do some research you find mostly sites that report about the stunt at the time and never updated their reports, which is quite normal in the press as most online media is mainly interested in clicks and dramatic headlines. On the other hand people who would have never found out about this project now are aware of it. If you do a bit more research then you will also find out quickly that it was "just" a stunt or awareness campaign.


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July 21, 2018, 08:16:49 PM
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After 3 months same news over and over again, not listed on exchange, can you return back my money SVD we want refund. I'm really frustrated

I think you can refund money only if you paid for tokens with credit cards. If you bought tokens with ETH it will be very hard to return money  Undecided

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Good!!!
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July 21, 2018, 11:19:38 PM
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After 3 months same news over and over again, not listed on exchange, can you return back my money SVD we want refund. I'm really frustrated

I think you can refund money only if you paid for tokens with credit cards. If you bought tokens with ETH it will be very hard to return money  Undecided
No refund at this time, maybe just look for buyer here in the forum because I am sure there are people who are still interested on SVD.
However, I cannot guarantee that they will buy at the ICO price, it's up to you after all.


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July 22, 2018, 10:14:58 AM
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After 3 months same news over and over again, not listed on exchange, can you return back my money SVD we want refund. I'm really frustrated

I think you can refund money only if you paid for tokens with credit cards. If you bought tokens with ETH it will be very hard to return money  Undecided
No refund at this time, maybe just look for buyer here in the forum because I am sure there are people who are still interested on SVD.
However, I cannot guarantee that they will buy at the ICO price, it's up to you after all.

As I know every buyer can refund money dunring up to 6 month after payment with credit cards. How he can sell tokens, if they locked now?

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I see this rather a long term invest and do not plan to sell when this finally hits the exchanges. Right now the climate for ICO's is toxic and unless the SEC decides in favor of the recent filing regarding ETFs this might continue for much longer. Considering who filed this request this time I see however a realistic chance that the SEC approves it this time. Indeed there are many other opportunities, less ICOs but coins you can buy for large discounts.   

It may be possible, chances are better at least as in 2017. But I'm still sceptical. Interesting read but unsure how reliable:
https://theicojournal.com/source-bitcoin-etf-nearly-certain-to-win-approval-later-this-year/



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Regarding the use case, I have not seen the app yet but from what I know so far it's sounds like a lot of people could benefit from it, however there were similar projects that combined Crypto Saving with AI like Daneel and they did not take off either, were trading far below ICO price last time I checked. But I see Savedroid superior compared to Daneel as they do not "borrow" their AI from IBM (Watson) and create something of their own.

I don't believe that AI will make much difference any time soon and I don't believe in the big AI-promises of small projects like Savedroid or Coinanalyst. What I believe in: Customers want an easy to use and safe entry into Crypto. That could be the fundamental brand of Savedroid. But that is highly about trust because as a user you will have to trust Savedroid with your money. And they have damaged the trust-topic very effectively. Second: The search for the perfect balance between easy to use and safe is not new. A lot of projects are working on that and in my opinion the future will be about applications and Desktop-Wallets that 1) give user control about their money and 2) are directly connected to decentralized exchanges to be cheap. That future is also not there yet, but it will come for sure.

Savedroid: Will not give users control about their money and it will be expensive. That's something I see as major problem, because I don't understand the concept of saving money while paying 15% for each action and not really owning the assets.

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The stunt did hurt the brand for sure, the explanation of the CEO afterwards made sense for me, but the large majority never watched that and indeed if you do some research you find mostly sites that report about the stunt at the time and never updated their reports, which is quite normal in the press as most online media is mainly interested in clicks and dramatic headlines. On the other hand people who would have never found out about this project now are aware of it. If you do a bit more research then you will also find out quickly that it was "just" a stunt or awareness campaign.

See... the explanation can make sense to people simply because there is a lot of fraud going on in this space and it's pretty much everywhere. But at the same time it's so trivial and superficial and presumptuous to do such a PR-stunt. In my opinion it goes down to two conclusions: Those who didn't follow the whole story still think Savedroid is a scam. Others find it stupid. To me there is one big conclusion: They think superficially, they focus on bold headlines while ignoring the context. But context is everything.

The paradox is: They wanted to educate others, implying they would have understood this space. But it's just a proof that they don't understand. They are egocentric newbies to Crypto. Also this legal threat because of the study underlines that. Is it wrong to rebut the claims of this study? Of course not. Is it wrong to consider legal actions? Not necessarily. Is it wrong to communicate it that way? Absolutely, because the reactions are predictable. They have put themselves in such a weak position because they themselves have caused the "scam-shitshow". And then they communicate such a threat in public.... it will be forgotten soon but to me it shows again: They make stupid decisions, have zero sense for smart communication and under the line everything is communication.

Or take the whole top5-communication and how the story changed over time or their attempt to hype the Coinanalyst-ICO. And a lot of what they communicate... they like to put others into "wrong" and themselves into "right". A simple example: It's very usual for Yassir to say that they are open for critical arguments but that they don't listen to those who are loud but to those who come up with arguments. Truth is: They are loud themselves and they ban people with critical arguments on their Telegram channels. Or: Yassir likes to talk about the moon prices of exchanges and that they don't want to play that game. Sounds reasonable. What he doesn't say is that they've liked the "Hype-ICO-Game" and still like it (Coinanalyst). And they have given their own token a moon-price.

In my opinion: Narcissistic Hypocrits.
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July 22, 2018, 10:34:29 AM
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It already pinned post their new news in their telegram which it states that Bitcoin price is already stable to $7000 so they are going to list it in HitBTC, IDEx, TIDEX and Bancor by august. That is their greatest update since the ICO is done! Hopefuly that it would really listed on that Exchange before august ends because mostly of us is trying to get refund! I think they are trying to put it on exchange because lot of people are really trying to get refund.
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