WTF Avalon? Ship the Chips!

[Vigil]

Essentially it gets down to this: Some people believe that legal action may slow things down and even get negative impact if it forces Y(es)I('ve)F(*****)Y(ou)™ to court, instead of letting him to slowly ship chip batches in the future. They see legal action as a revenge, and not as a smart business move at this moment. This is false reasoning IMHO, Yifu has an USA based company and his basic interest is not to be brought to court in the USA, or get permanent arrest order if he tries to step into the USA. Court conviction may permanently damage his future, so if anything can bring him to make some kind of personal or financial sacrifice to deliver what his company is obliged - it's serious legal action. It will not make anything slower. Proper donation for legal support should be organized, let's say everybody should donate 1% of the worth of his chips. 1% of 10 mil. US$ is 100.000 US$, and it should be enough for some serious law firm for considerable time. If anyone who already donated gets his chips during the slow process of legal action, his donation will anyhow go to good cause, helping those who didn't get the chips get their legal satisfaction.

How much money do we need to bring this fat ass to the court? Though I am less rich than him (we all know how much money this guy has scammed from our community), but I think the law will bring judge to this guy. If a reliable community member can lead such a law suit, I will donate 50BTC 100BTC.

With such a simple and easy thing, he will delay. This could only be intentional.

Back in May, I have heard rumors that Avalon team is planning ship the chips late to give Avalon Batch 3 some profit. Now, the rumor became the truth. They intended to cover one mistake by another mistake.

I would repeat that in a few other threads esp. the Terrahash one if you want to gain any momentum and/or attention.

Also contact Bicknellski and a few of the group buy guys whose businesses are at stake...

Feel free to do that, I'm just a small group buyer with no intentions to execute anything further myself, but would love to see what others think about it.

Well it's possible now, 2/3 down, ouch;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-12/n-y-regulator-subpoenas-firms-over-bitcoin-crime-risks.html

In addition to BitInstant, Dwolla and Coinsetter, the regulator sent subpoenas to the following service providers: BitPay, Coinabul, Coinbase Inc., CoinLab, eCoin Cashier, Payward, Inc., TrustCash Holdings Inc. and ZipZap, the person said.

Butterfly Labs, a technology company, also received a subpoena, according to the person familiar with the matter.

The funny thing is... what exactly do these politicians think they can regulate about Bitcoin? All they can really do is make it illegal and then people will just use their bitcoin elsewhere. I don't think they really get it. Any attempt at regulating Bitcoin and you are placing a huge burden on US economic growth.

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[Vycid]

The funny thing is... what exactly do these politicians think they can regulate about Bitcoin? All they can really do is make it illegal and then people will just use their bitcoin elsewhere. I don't think they really get it. Any attempt at regulating Bitcoin and you are placing a huge burden on US economic growth.

Ok, surely we all recognize how ludicrous this statement is? The impact of regulating Bitcoin would be completely inconsequential to the dollar economy.

[CoinHoarder]

My chips are up for auction for anyone that still wants to take the gamble: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272407.0

[lajz99]

Hey guys, chips are in the mail!   

[AdamR]

What do you mean chips are in the mail? Please clarify

[lajz99]

What do you mean chips are in the mail? Please clarify

Sorry, it was a joke, kinda like "check's in the mail".  Maybe I'm old...

Edit: Too soon?

[g83]

Hey guys, chips are in the mail!   

No jokes about that in here !

[Stack]

BFL
Two Weeks^TM

BitSyncom
Customs^TM

[Unacceptable]

BFL
Two Weeks^TM

BitSyncom
Customs^TM

Wait.........I thought BFL had "Customs™Chips"   WTF  

                       

[Bicknellski]

Josh
Two Weeks^TM

Yifu
Customs^TM I'm alive^TM

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[BitCsByBit]

There could be some movement:

Please note that the chips may ship without warning as I've received confirmation from another operator that the sample chips were shipped without any changes in my order page. Damn Avalon!

[ampu]

And this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2922817#msg2922817

I think i can help .
Yesterday I got 30 chips from nowhere...
Sent from hong kong. No update on Avalon order page.
Any update on test of fully populated K16.?
We are busy here with our design and did not have the chance to populate and test the last final K16 version

[southerngentuk]

Josh
Two Weeks^TM

Yifu
Customs^TM I'm alive^TM

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@Yifu,    please check into the forum daily so we know ur still alive!!
As there is probably not a continent in the world where people aren't looking out for you !
Am glad am not you ! 

[digitalindustry]

Hey guys just found this Topic on CCN , I just read the whole thing , its been very entertaining thank you all .

sorry if that sounds rude , i was bored , and there isn't much dirt on the other threads these days,

so looks like you all got done hey?

some highlights were where people said:

"last time i give my business to...."

isn't it interesting how when humans become involved , we perpetuate the similar systems that we are supposedly are against , ha ha in this way we can learn more about human behavior we have to respect the monetary scam that is fiat systems , as you probably would have done it if you had of thought of it   .

I personally have orders with KnC i don't expect anyone that orders now to ever get an ROI if they actually pay for energy in any form. the trajectory we have is over 200 million unless there is a reassessment. 

i guess I'm a student of historic human behavior and you people are not ?, here is the general rule post Cold War:

Don't trust or invest in the USA, (especially anywhere near California) the Nation is in decline and social pressure drives a socioeconomic system towards the "self", not dissimilar to the decline of the Soviet system, plus you have an advanced political /intel network related to your investment .

Don't Trust or invest in any part of Asia , (sorry there is no racism here),  but there is a race factor , do you think the Chinese conveniently forgot the Tea or Opium wars or the many aspects of history?

You simple "Westerners" just because you get the flash course of "history" in school about some pyramids and some trenches do you think that is what is taught to other cultures?

the only viable options you actually ever had was :

1. Build it yourself.

2. Invest in Europe.

3. Invest carefully in the Russian Federation.

those of you that actually got a product , you got that more likely for press reasons , off in the distance you can hear laughter ...

you won't get to "not give business" because this won't likely happen again ha ha.

[alexKKK]

Hi Yifu,


I still not recieved 5 Avalon Units from Avalon batch 2
paid 75 btc for each

i have no information about delivery, about track number or even a response from you !


I created a lot of tickets ( last one #1410)
and write a letter to your e-mail


Can you help with that ?
Can i hope for refund ?



Best regards
Alexey

[voxelot]

Any news on the nams?

Vox

[bystander]

Any news on the nams?

Vox

Nothing yet, think we've all been eFooled by Yifu.

[g83]

Any news on the nams?

Vox

Nothing yet, think we've all been eFooled by Yifu.

So his new name must be E-foo

[ibminer]

Updated from the website:  http://www.avalon-asics.com

chips have arrived via other routes as previously announced, we are shipping them out at the rate of 40-50k on a daily basis at the moment, in addition to the ~150k or so that went out, another 40k was shipped today. There is multiple channel which the chips are arriving from various packaging facility to minimize downtime. Please bare this in mind: while we had backup/multiple packaging companies and various delivery routes, things still will go wrong. There is also testing that must be done, then they can split, packed and sent to the EZP coupled with their CN-22 and be on their way. We will provide more update as they come. In addition, the trade-in and refunds are being processed.

[600watt]

Josh
Two Weeks^TM

Yifu
Customs^TM I'm alive^TM

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sam
september ^TM

disclaimer:
i have ordered a bfl miner, asked for refund, no answer yet
i have ordered avalon batch 3, sold it
i have ordered avalon chips, sold part of em, would like to sell em all
i have ordered jupiters. sam, i am counting on you...