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March 19, 2018, 01:05:38 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Thats cause a 61 year old guy self mods it. Grin

Damn When I started these threads I was 59.

April 7 2016 was the first of 7 threads.

Been quite the ride.

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Apr 7 1 card thread started

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March 19, 2018, 02:41:41 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Wall Observer mature?  You have an interesting definition of mature.

What or whom is wall observer ?

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March 19, 2018, 03:07:03 AM
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thanks guys, giving a try!
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March 19, 2018, 05:23:36 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Wall Observer mature?  You have an interesting definition of mature.

What or whom is wall observer ?

It's that long thread in the Economics -> Speculation section with 400,000 replies.

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March 19, 2018, 08:05:11 AM
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This is how i have felt the last few months....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlrE6LsMhg

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March 19, 2018, 08:08:55 AM
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Farm update. 189 gpus freshly deployed.



All except 2 rigs are my hosting clients equipment. Mostly 1060s, some 1050tis.

A client is looking to put upwards of $500k into gpu mining with me taking care of the equipment. We are now looking at other countries like canada and estonia. Malaysia's $0.085/kwh is decent but makes sense to strive for cheaper costs.
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March 19, 2018, 08:11:25 AM
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Kayden, do you have performance for P102-100 in Skein, X17, Lyra2z, Lyra2v2, EQHash and Phi? Eth isn't profitable anymore...
Thanks!


P102 eth performance from my factory source. $700 usd, but have to pre-order now and receive in early May.

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Seems less efficient in terms of hash/watt compared to P104 which can do 37mh/s at 120w.

This is tempting, but I'm holding off expansion till end of GTC. Next gen just around the corner.

whats the minimum qty for pre-order?

I asked pricing for 80pcs and was quoted $700. It should get slightly cheaper (expensive) if the quantity increases (decreases). Didn't ask for the minimum qty though.

It's good density, but 2x 580s is a better deal imo. It needs to be $600 or lower,  unless resale value is no issue for you then it can be seen as a msrp 1080ti with better eth performance.

The p102 has 90% of a 1080ti cuda cores, I expect it to be 90% of 1080ti performance in other algos at 90% the power draw. Maybe 95% the performance at equal power draw.

It's just an estimation though, no benchmarks are available for other algos.
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March 19, 2018, 12:05:29 PM
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Farm update. 189 gpus freshly deployed.

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All except 2 rigs are my hosting clients equipment. Mostly 1060s, some 1050tis.

A client is looking to put upwards of $500k into gpu mining with me taking care of the equipment. We are now looking at other countries like canada and estonia. Malaysia's $0.085/kwh is decent but makes sense to strive for cheaper costs.

.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

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March 19, 2018, 01:11:56 PM
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I like those cases, KaydenC... they do look very slim though. Do you manage to get 6 GPUs plus PSU and cables in there?
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.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

Totally. Canada I think is slightly cheaper still in terms of electricity, but Estonia has cheaper rent and infrastructure. Their average monthly salary is about 1k euros only, rent is 1.5-2.5 euro per square meter. Additionally in Estonia there's no tax on profits, only on dividends paid. I could keep all the money in the company and buy solar panels or something.

I like those cases, KaydenC... they do look very slim though. Do you manage to get 6 GPUs plus PSU and cables in there?

Actually 8 gpu can fit inside. Here's a pic of the latest version. Plenty of space left



There's an older version with just 4 instead of 7 fan mounts which is much more cramped.



Cable management is very tight for this version, and cables are always in the way of airflow.

The new version is from letine on alibaba. $243 usd for mobo + case with 7 fans. Shipping is $70 or so to malaysia.
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March 19, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
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Farm update. 189 gpus freshly deployed.

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All except 2 rigs are my hosting clients equipment. Mostly 1060s, some 1050tis.

A client is looking to put upwards of $500k into gpu mining with me taking care of the equipment. We are now looking at other countries like canada and estonia. Malaysia's $0.085/kwh is decent but makes sense to strive for cheaper costs.

.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

In reality there is plenty of available power, we are in a surplus situation.  Hydro-Quebec has given a big "fuck you" to bitmain and others - mining farms are leeches, lets be honest - they bring nothing to society.  No jobs.  No expertise, nothing.  Income is shady and moved around the world, so no real net benefit for Quebec if we subsidize their electricity costs.  Which is why we have huge aluminum production facilities - but these make a whole region the size of an European country live - and live well.  So they get 1cent power.  not miners.

Long story short, if you want to mine in Quebec there is plenty of power and opportunity to do so.  you'll pay shy of 10cents all included cad with taxes overall for a business.  In my home its around 7cents all included CAD, service fees, taxes and all.  I have a company here but dont do hosting.  I dont really like the business model of hosting miners, and im really allergic to anything that has "cloud" in proximity to the word "mining".  Im doing nothing after winter ends here til autumn due to career changes but off the top of my head if you have 150k+ worth of miners then it makes sense to rent a place with existing power near Montreal calculating all costs.  below that and fixed costs eat too much.  I could provide half that from stock.  If you are interested im personally thinking about expanding if gpu prices crash down to msrp and lower and will need a new place.  I dont want to sell hosting though I do not have enough capital to finance everything and i really dont feel like mortgaging my house for this lol.  

One of the bigger players here is financed by israel interests and most likely chinese capital.  http://montrealgazette.com/business/crypto-miner-bitfarms-to-invest-250-million-in-sherbrooke-facility
Most projects are exclusively S9 farms.  Dont ask me why though, makes no sense to me.
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March 20, 2018, 12:28:34 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Mine aren't undervolted very far - 2'nd or 3'd step down from stock on TheStilt BIOS list, whatever that ended up at.


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March 20, 2018, 12:46:34 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Mine aren't undervolted very far - 2'nd or 3'd step down from stock on TheStilt BIOS list, whatever that ended up at.



Seems ASIC quality plays a big role.

On one I got it stable around 0.985V while the lower ASIC quality crashed at that voltage and had to be bumped up to 1.03V. With WattTool couldn't pick a voltage in the middle. Had to jump from 985V to 1030V.

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March 20, 2018, 10:00:51 PM
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Ebay has a solid coupon


PSPRINGTIME  15% OFF

MOST EVERYTHING 50 MAX

ie a 340 usd item gets a 50 dollar discount

as does any higher priced item.


I grabbed this ssd


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micron-1100-2TB-SSD-SATA-6Gb-s-2-5-Solid-State-Drive-MTFDDAK2T0TBN-1AR1ZABYY/401506777930?

good ssd for only 299 usd after coupon


a pair of these below
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CORSAIR-RMx-Series-RM1000X-1000W-80-PLUS-GOLD-Haswell-Ready-Full-Modular-ATX12V/301744475341?

180 + 180 = 360 - 50 = 310 net for 2000 watts of power

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March 21, 2018, 12:47:43 PM
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Good sale for 1500 watt corsair psu  code is SPRING2018

use the caps

a factory new is 450
a refurb is 350
coupon brings it to 280

I got 2
I also purchased a 1000 watt rm1000s

new it is 199
refurb it is 140
coupon it is 112

so my order would have been 1360  it was 870





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March 21, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
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That's a nice sale on some quality products from Corsair. I'm pretty fond of their products over the past decade or so.

ThermalTake on the other hand... I used to be a fan of their products, but my enthusiasm has been waning in recent years. Below is a picture of a ThermalTake 1200 watt Gold PSU that had a SATA cable connector melt in the PSU. It had 2 SATA devices connected, so there's no way it should have ever drawn that much power. :p Checking reviews on Newegg it seems that a number of people have had the same exact issue in the past 6 months.

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March 21, 2018, 09:49:31 PM
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for those of you still chasing XMR profits, I just swapped from claymore to xmr-stak-win64 and am seeing better results; more consistent poolside hashrate reports, etc....

Last night was a long night in downloading a bunch of miner apps and starting to go through them one at a time.  Now that I have a baseline process, this should go pretty quick for me.


Those are some killer PSU deals phil... sadly, i'm saving all my pennies for the new gen hardware release... =)

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.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

Totally. Canada I think is slightly cheaper still in terms of electricity, but Estonia has cheaper rent and infrastructure. Their average monthly salary is about 1k euros only, rent is 1.5-2.5 euro per square meter. Additionally in Estonia there's no tax on profits, only on dividends paid. I could keep all the money in the company and buy solar panels or something.

I like those cases, KaydenC... they do look very slim though. Do you manage to get 6 GPUs plus PSU and cables in there?

Actually 8 gpu can fit inside. Here's a pic of the latest version. Plenty of space left



There's an older version with just 4 instead of 7 fan mounts which is much more cramped.



Cable management is very tight for this version, and cables are always in the way of airflow.

The new version is from letine on alibaba. $243 usd for mobo + case with 7 fans. Shipping is $70 or so to malaysia.
Id like to try one of those cases, what is the link to order from pls
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hahaha yes have 1 of those and 1 in 450w lol
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