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January 27, 2014, 06:17:45 AM |
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Sweet, over promise and under deliver. Way to go CT. Here, we promised you 2th, but our 1.6 th unit is what you get. That's all folks, maybe in the future firmware will make it better. Oh, and it uses more power than one circuit in your house can provide. Not one outlet, btw. One circuit. So you get to have extension cords draped between rooms. What are they talking about with a 1th barrier? There has never been a barrier. The machine doesn't have one bit 2000W chip pumping out over 1th, it's just like everyone else, lots of modules. So sick of reading more lies. KNC did it right, promise 400, ship 700. I feel bad for you cointerra customers. If you need to get rid of them cheap because you can't power them, I'll buy them. I've got lots of cheap power. (jk chill already!!) "Our December delivery commitment: If we do not deliver your confirmed December delivery within 30 days of our promise, we will credit your account 20% of the hash power." It's january 26... Do you know where your credit is?
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mmitech
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January 27, 2014, 11:03:44 AM |
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So did they start production ? will they start shipping this week ?
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January 27, 2014, 11:17:50 AM |
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got to love the swedes.
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trek27
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January 27, 2014, 11:19:32 AM |
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So did they start production ? will they start shipping this week ?
Apparently they did start production. But are waiting for FCC and CE certification.
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January 27, 2014, 11:57:02 AM |
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So did they start production ? will they start shipping this week ?
Apparently they did start production. But are waiting for FCC and CE certification. I thought it was Underwriter Labs...whoo boy..hope it is not UL that (I don't know this but have heard so don't kill the messenger) that it can take MONTHS such options on not shipping power supplies was the reason given (again not sure if it matters or is legit..just the messenger) that KNC does NOT ship their units with power supplies anyway others in this field with more knowledge then myself can weigh in here the above is just 'chatter' that i've been told on forums when I inquired why KNC did not ship with power supplies internationally etc feel free to slap me down ..i just post this because its what scuttlebutt has passed by my way from the summer when i got the KNC ordered Searing
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trek27
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January 27, 2014, 02:07:43 PM |
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From 1/20/2014 update:
"At the same time we have been preparing the hardware for mandatory FCC and CE product testing and certification, and UL safety testing and certification which we have been informed will take approximately 2-3 days to complete."
It already took 7.
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January 27, 2014, 03:20:35 PM |
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From 1/20/2014 update:
"At the same time we have been preparing the hardware for mandatory FCC and CE product testing and certification, and UL safety testing and certification which we have been informed will take approximately 2-3 days to complete."
It already took 7.
2-3 weeks is much more likely
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DPoS
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January 27, 2014, 03:33:44 PM |
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From 1/20/2014 update:
"At the same time we have been preparing the hardware for mandatory FCC and CE product testing and certification, and UL safety testing and certification which we have been informed will take approximately 2-3 days to complete."
It already took 7.
2-3 weeks is much more likely the irony is that they do the UL testing so they wont get sued.. but if they take too long they will get sued for other reasons
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jermwerty
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January 27, 2014, 08:02:50 PM |
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Fail on both watts + hash rate.
You might as well just ordered some antminer/bitfury and started mining 3 months ago, by the time the difficulty gets to the level where watt/gh difference would matter materially between cointerra and the 55nm, the boxes will be all obsolete anyway. And you would mined a lot more bitcoins with the 55nm if started 3 months ago, instead giving cointerra a 0% interest loan while they did the dog and pony show.
YEP. This is 100% correct. When 1.6GH of ANTMINERS take 3.2KW and 1.6GH of Cointerra takes 2.1KW you begin the realize the whole 28nm vs 55nm debate is next to pointless. The cost of the box and its useful life makes worrying about the relative power draw the least of the problems. To be fair the cost for ANTMiners was quite a bit higher in the beginning, but the last couple weeks it was only 15.2BTC (~$12K) for 1.6GH of ANTS which could already be mining TODAY.
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Tegija
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January 27, 2014, 08:30:29 PM |
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Sweet, over promise and under deliver. Way to go CT. Here, we promised you 2th, but our 1.6 th unit is what you get. That's all folks, maybe in the future firmware will make it better. Oh, and it uses more power than one circuit in your house can provide. Not one outlet, btw. One circuit. So you get to have extension cords draped between rooms. What are they talking about with a 1th barrier? There has never been a barrier. The machine doesn't have one bit 2000W chip pumping out over 1th, it's just like everyone else, lots of modules. So sick of reading more lies. KNC did it right, promise 400, ship 700. I feel bad for you cointerra customers. If you need to get rid of them cheap because you can't power them, I'll buy them. I've got lots of cheap power. (jk chill already!!) "Our December delivery commitment: If we do not deliver your confirmed December delivery within 30 days of our promise, we will credit your account 20% of the hash power." It's january 26... Do you know where your credit is? Thats really shit. such loss in GH and with 20% more power usage... I have 4 Terras ordered so they should just send me one extra miner and it would be already ok. then it would be what i ordered. only thing that i would have then 5*2100= 10,5 kW/h instead of 4*1600=6,4 kW/h. mhhh... just 60% more... o top comes more than one month delay, so it´s just loss of several tens of k$. Thanks Cointerra!
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Enjoy your life!
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testerx
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January 27, 2014, 10:47:03 PM |
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When 1.6GH of ANTMINERS take 3.2KW and 1.6GH of Cointerra takes 2.1KW you begin the realize the whole 28nm vs 55nm debate is next to pointless. The cost of the box and its useful life makes worrying about the relative power draw the least of the problems. To be fair the cost for ANTMiners was quite a bit higher in the beginning, but the last couple weeks it was only 15.2BTC (~$12K) for 1.6GH of ANTS which could already be mining TODAY.
For larger miners that 1000 watts still adds up though, big time farms for 2014 really will have to be built on 28nm hardware to be competitive. If you want 20Thash of Antminers you're going to be spending a TON more money on electricity, it's not insignificant for larger farms.
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January 27, 2014, 11:25:46 PM |
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When 1.6GH of ANTMINERS take 3.2KW and 1.6GH of Cointerra takes 2.1KW you begin the realize the whole 28nm vs 55nm debate is next to pointless. The cost of the box and its useful life makes worrying about the relative power draw the least of the problems. To be fair the cost for ANTMiners was quite a bit higher in the beginning, but the last couple weeks it was only 15.2BTC (~$12K) for 1.6GH of ANTS which could already be mining TODAY.
For larger miners that 1000 watts still adds up though, big time farms for 2014 really will have to be built on 28nm hardware to be competitive. If you want 20Thash of Antminers you're going to be spending a TON more money on electricity, it's not insignificant for larger farms. At $.15/kwh that's $1314 per year. 1.6 TH/s generates that in under 5 days. But if you're worried about power draw, you're better off using Bitfury chips until someone comes along with a more efficient chip. No one has shown a 28nm chip with better power drawn that Bitfury's 55nm chip.
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mmitech
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January 28, 2014, 07:15:19 AM |
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When 1.6GH of ANTMINERS take 3.2KW and 1.6GH of Cointerra takes 2.1KW you begin the realize the whole 28nm vs 55nm debate is next to pointless. The cost of the box and its useful life makes worrying about the relative power draw the least of the problems. To be fair the cost for ANTMiners was quite a bit higher in the beginning, but the last couple weeks it was only 15.2BTC (~$12K) for 1.6GH of ANTS which could already be mining TODAY.
For larger miners that 1000 watts still adds up though, big time farms for 2014 really will have to be built on 28nm hardware to be competitive. If you want 20Thash of Antminers you're going to be spending a TON more money on electricity, it's not insignificant for larger farms. At $.15/kwh that's $1314 per year. 1.6 TH/s generates that in under 5 days. But if you're worried about power draw, you're better off using Bitfury chips until someone comes along with a more efficient chip. No one has shown a 28nm chip with better power drawn that Bitfury's 55nm chip. which leaves a big question, how can we be sure that the designs out there really meets the specifications? in other words, what if the chips are 55-65nm instead of 28nm, if bitfury 55nm proved to be so efficient it makes me wonder about the other chips..... not that I am an expert or know allot, but a normal person would ask the same question like me.
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testerx
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January 28, 2014, 12:15:12 PM |
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When 1.6GH of ANTMINERS take 3.2KW and 1.6GH of Cointerra takes 2.1KW you begin the realize the whole 28nm vs 55nm debate is next to pointless. The cost of the box and its useful life makes worrying about the relative power draw the least of the problems. To be fair the cost for ANTMiners was quite a bit higher in the beginning, but the last couple weeks it was only 15.2BTC (~$12K) for 1.6GH of ANTS which could already be mining TODAY.
For larger miners that 1000 watts still adds up though, big time farms for 2014 really will have to be built on 28nm hardware to be competitive. If you want 20Thash of Antminers you're going to be spending a TON more money on electricity, it's not insignificant for larger farms. At $.15/kwh that's $1314 per year. 1.6 TH/s generates that in under 5 days. But if you're worried about power draw, you're better off using Bitfury chips until someone comes along with a more efficient chip. No one has shown a 28nm chip with better power drawn that Bitfury's 55nm chip. It's not just cost of power, it's cost of cooling, cost of backup power, cost of UPS and generators, cost of power distribution units, cost of power lines, availability of power lines to your facility, etc. that at least doubles the cost of power, so now you're looking at more like $2K a year per unit, if you own many units this is significant.
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machinationus
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January 28, 2014, 12:31:35 PM |
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Can it be run off your Dryer or Stove plug in they should be 30-40 amp at 220 volt >6000 watts. problem is then you need a sub panel etc. But the power supply's can be 240 or 120 volts. You can not just plug in extension cords as they could be on the other phase, easy check with volt meter. (dead short i think) "Split Phase" I think 220-240 is the way to go, hassle as a rewire is needed but will use less power over time.
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January 28, 2014, 02:02:03 PM |
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I think 220-240 is the way to go, hassle as a rewire is needed but will use less power over time. ?
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January 28, 2014, 02:04:49 PM |
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I think 220-240 is the way to go, hassle as a rewire is needed but will use less power over time. ? P = I^2 * R? Technically correct, actually irrelevant.
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poppys
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January 28, 2014, 03:27:37 PM |
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This is what happens when you deal with people who are from India or Pakistan. They over hype anything they're trying to sell and under deliver on products. That was the main reason why I knew this would fail and it has. I was right about it from the start. The only people who suffer is the ones who paid money to this clown and I don't feel sorry for you. Next time do some research on the people you're dealing with before you invest in something.
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January 28, 2014, 04:04:22 PM |
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wait -- don´t blame this excellent company. blame the web designer who forgot to include the words "...FOR US" beneath it.
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