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They are in full legal lock-down mode. Say nothing or do nothing that can be used against you later. We're just along for the ride now. See you all on Jan 1st. I hope to get better news earlier, but I've hoped twice before and been burned. Thanks BFL, Avalon, and now HF.
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November 15, 2013, 06:30:38 PM |
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They are in full legal lock-down mode. Say nothing or do nothing that can be used against you later. We're just along for the ride now. See you all on Jan 1st. I hope to get better news earlier, but I've hoped twice before and been burned. Thanks BFL, Avalon, and now HF.
I don't think it's that, I think it's that they just kinda don't know what to do, and the missteps with Taco and the silly (and ill-timed) drawing for people putting ads in their sigs show the lack of a coherent communication plan. Dealing with this situation is different than selling bondage or fisting pron, as our marketing man is probably finding out! I don't mean that too meanly, after all, it's a really strange situation, and I can't think of any especially valuable prior experience he could have had to help deal with bitcoin miner preorder fumbles, so I guess pron sales are as (in)applicable as anything else. (Except maybe crisis communication.) I don't think they have to come on here and respond to every bitchy post, but having said that, Amer has a number of good suggestions, even if some of them veer too far into the "promotional" aspect rather than providing information. Hashfast can certainly do a better job getting the facts out there, and doing so with some regularity. Personally, I'm not so much interested in success stories ... except maybe new information that shows how they are addressing and overcoming delays. Data points. Stuff that speaks for itself. Not any spun items. Why not commit to a factual update every week, with some of the industry-specific insight information that Amer suggests (i.e. for those of us that aren't personally into hardware design)?
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November 15, 2013, 06:35:54 PM |
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No, it is exactly that. Reading over all their latest communications, you can easily tell they have passed and sanitized by a lawyer first. They have carefully worded everything as to not take any liability, past future and present. Are my claims so far fetched? This is the company that is NDA'ed out the asshole.
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November 15, 2013, 06:51:00 PM |
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Hi all, Here is a picture of Eduardo deCastro, CEO, receiving the wafers! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjHJDK4Hl.jpg&t=665&c=LtVD5F9zwF59Tw) Cheers, HashFast Team HashFast has chips in hand. They are extremely busy getting those chips assembled into mining machines. They have far better things to do than whisper sweet reassurances into your ears every night. "Do you still love me HashFast?"
'Ya, baby, I still love you.'
"Will you always love me HashFast? I was worried because you didn't call me at lunch."
'Of course I'll always love you. Don't worry so much.'
"But what have you done for me lately? That picture of in-hand chips was almost four days ago!"
'Sigh...' ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAdfdk1w.jpg&t=665&c=lBuUGP9gKrKUpQ)
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November 15, 2013, 06:58:17 PM |
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And now my try: Everybody relax! Good news! Hi all, Here is a picture of Eduardo deCastro, CEO, receiving the wafers! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjHJDK4Hl.jpg&t=665&c=LtVD5F9zwF59Tw) Cheers, HashFast Team Well I am already setup and payment ready for Hashfasts Next Surprise announcements ( I am not allowed to say what it is but i know of 2 up comiming announcements that will shock everyone ( they are good announcement )
That thing he is holding up could be printer toner cartridges for all you know.
1. Announcement Inside this package were indeed the long awaited printer cartridges! (yay! Invoices!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) 2. Announcement Due to the fact we have, here as well, choosen the bargain-/cheap-cheap-offer (rebuild many times), they don't work!! ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) But!! (good announcement ahead!! ->) WE CAN SEND THEM BACK!!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Sorry for off-topic (and to prevent the anyway upcoming deletion of this post) I really have a question: Probably HF missed my candidature (which was deleted including the thread It was a duplicate thread.
for their great drawing of a free BabyJet. Anyway, is this sale today or any day and what are the discounts? _HashFast Technologies_28 nm mining Producer of High Performance ASICS BabyJets & Sierras On Sale today! I got to admit I'm a little baffled that HashFast has stopped talking to me.
You received your lousy discounts yet? These gift certificates cannot be used before 12/31/2013, didn't you read the TOS? Or could it really be that this happened?? They are in full legal lock-down mode.
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November 15, 2013, 07:19:34 PM |
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And now my try:
[incomprehensible paranoid copypasta gibberish]
We know HashFast taped out to TSMC in August. It's a safe bet that the chips are done and the box in the picture is full of wafers. "Maybe it's toner cartridges" is the lamest attempt at FUD I've ever seen. And I used to read /. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 07:24:10 PM |
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HashFast has chips in hand. They are extremely busy getting those chips assembled into mining machines.
They have far better things to do than whisper sweet reassurances into your ears every night.
So of the 5 members on the executive team, which ones are "busy getting those chips assembled" ? And which one should be whispering sweet reassurances into or ears? Is it: Simon Barber | Chief Technology Officer - Assembling Chips for sure Eduardo deCastro | CEO - Half assembling half ear whispering Amy Woodward | VP of Engineering - Assembling Chips John Skrodenis | VP Marketing & Sales - ear whispering champ Chad Spackman - Who the fuck is this guy?
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November 15, 2013, 07:40:35 PM |
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Chad Spackman - Who the fuck is this guy?
What? U don't know Spacko?? And now my try:
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I have to admit, in spite of all the work it took, my post was really confusing and hard to read, my sincere apologies!! Another question I have, since a while to be honest: What is your skin in this little drama iCEBREAKER? Despair?
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November 15, 2013, 07:47:46 PM |
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The official HashFast account just posted a pic of the CEO with chips in-hand less than 5 days ago . What more do you want? Breakfast in bed? Roses on your pillow? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Talk about overly attached customers. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA6QKMTi.jpg&t=665&c=vS9rarzjRR0tZw)
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November 15, 2013, 08:01:29 PM |
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The official HashFast account just posted a pic of the CEO with chips in-hand less than 5 days ago . What more do you want? Breakfast in bed? Roses on your pillow? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I don't want neither pictures nor roses, I just want that great item I paid nearly $30,000 for, which will give me back around $100/day for the next couple of days if I get it tomorrow and bullshit if I get it in 2 months.
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November 15, 2013, 08:23:23 PM |
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November 15, 2013, 09:05:47 PM |
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A+I will open the "smiley-eduardo-picture" contest in a couple of days in a different thread. First price: 0,1 BTC or a free BabyJet.
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November 15, 2013, 09:19:17 PM |
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Talk about overly attached customers.
I generally agree with you, Icebreaker, especially WRT cedivad, but that last post is a one from a little too great an apologist for Hashfast. Really, they are substantially behind their 'expected' shipping dates, legitimate questions have been raised about some of their statements about being "on track", and they've recently said very little that wasn't first coaxed and then carefully parsed. They also haven't directly acknowledged the biggest whopper issues with the MPP - that at 400% their first batch customers may still lose, and later customers may ironically do better. It's legit to want them to be more consistently communicative.
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November 15, 2013, 09:32:14 PM |
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It's legit to want them to be more consistently communicative.
HashFast is being consistently communicative; they posted a pic of the CEO with chips in-hand less than 5 days ago. Why not wait at least a week before demanding MOAR? Reasonable people understand they are extremely busy with the chips you just saw delivered. Dontcha think asking for daily updates is just a little bit 'high maintenance?' ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz40Ys9T.jpg&t=665&c=4DIHREdqJRFHWw)
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November 15, 2013, 09:46:41 PM |
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how are they busy with the chips if they have no substrate?? How exhausting can twiddling their thumbs be?
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November 15, 2013, 10:08:06 PM |
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EHRMEHRGEHRD how are they busy with the chips if they have no substrate??? JEESUSFML How exhausting can twiddling their thumbs be!!!C'mon DPoS, we know you're not really so obtuse as to not know the answer to those questions. I know you're not personally capable of such feats, but trust you can at least imagine what it's like to manage the colossal task of juggling hundreds of moving parts distributed among dozens of teams.
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November 15, 2013, 10:25:34 PM |
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Stop apologizing / making up excuses for them! p.s You remind me of those guys who defended BFL back in Dec, jan, feb, march... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 10:37:05 PM |
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I would be less worried if there was a good way to contact HashFast. Even their "Expert Help" phone number just to an answering service where the (admittedly friendly) woman who answers just takes down your name, number and email address to be sent to HashFast. There does not appear to be any way to call them directly that I can find.
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November 15, 2013, 10:43:11 PM |
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So haven't read any of the 5 pages of personal attacks back and forth. Is there any news/updates?
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