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August 29, 2013, 12:05:46 PM
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I would just like to say that I once flamed this thread for being a scammy pre-order buy.  I am very sorry for that.  This is still a pre-order buy but I was completely misinformed on the baby jet.  You guys win and have my full support Grin

I have recently seen that more orders are open for babyjets and came back to find you guys!

Has this been discussed here yet? I think it is recent and I have not seen it yet.

https://hashfast.com/

It says that there are 31 units left if this group buy has time to expand.. I would love to tuck my tail and buy with you lovely people!

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you should see some rips I did on this forum  and more then once I was completely wrong.  back to the gear.

 I have at least 7 power supplies no lower in use.   soo  we do not need to buy one. to build the machine.  in fact I will send 2 to the hoster (l like backup plans) I have 1000 watt 850 watt 650 watt all 550 watt and 450 watt .  I will make a list to pick from. And since they are idle  I would sell 2 for 1.  it is easier then listing them on ebay.   I also have at least 8 sticks of samsung 4gb ram if needed. it is the very popular vlp green ram low volts 1.35 not 1.5.

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August 29, 2013, 04:40:58 PM
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Since they opened more to be sold, I am thinking about doing a GB myself, to go along with any units I might host.
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August 30, 2013, 01:51:13 AM
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I am considering offering my services as well.  I want the limit of 1/n as n approaches infinity in profit.  I am a math grad student and I would love to just be close to this technology and maintain it with utmost professionalism.... live in a low kWh area in the sates and what not.  This is a lot of work to do my part for securing the network while I study this semester, but I don't have any other plans and would be honored to serve.

Think I should start a group buy for one to host?

I would think if all the hosts talked and helped each other out we could help secure you guys in the mining race... as long as Hashfast is operating at the inverse of Avalon.
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August 30, 2013, 03:19:29 AM
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Hi voxelot,

Thank you for your comments and for asking to join the co-op I call: "The little co-op that could." IMHO it takes an enlightened (or at least semi-enlightened) man to publicly admit that he's wrong.

About setting up a new one: you and possibly Sam may want to think about teaming up with bobsag3. I think it's more important to succeed together and let everyone take the credit then to fail separately to acquire a Batch1 pre-order on a HashFast (if that's the sort of blinking hardware you find to be sexy) before they run out. But hey, everyone has free will which I think is a wonderful thing.

Another thing to consider: CoinTerra is *supposed* release a 1TH miner to allay the grumblings of the filthy masses.  Cheesy In which case: BeepBeep2 would be the one you'd want to join up with. As a GBEC I don't find their MPP as attractive as HashFast's but at least there is one, which is a step forward for the ASIC mfg. community.

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Today, Mt Gox Weighted Avg: $129.36422

To complete this order today, please send 44.8655741 BTC to the address below

(Calculation:  5804.00 / 129.36422 = 44.8655741)

Address to send:
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Please let us know when you have sent the BTC.

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To which I sent him the Blockchain transaction for the buy we already made, LOL! I then proceeded to remind him that I thought they owed me 1.861 BTC as a refund & that he's not my proctologist...ok, ok so I added that last part. So good news! We didn't lose our place in the outbound shipment from 10 days ago!

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REMINDER: Don't forget to vote! Voting starts at 9PM HST, which is about 3.5 hours from now, and will run for FOUR days.

PRO VS. AMATEUR HOSTING

PRO
- They're...uh pros with an IT background
- Least chance of theft or unintentional damage
- Automatically insured
- They cost more
- They care but they don't really care (not their BTC)
- Unless you pay an arm/leg, they have network outages in normal situations and power outages in long emergencies just like everyone else. Don't believe that BS about 99.99+% uptime
- May need to scramble to find a place that does colocation of mid towers which are awkward fits in most server rooms. You have to use the "platform" method which many DCs don't have set up for this purpose; (warned them about it...grumble...grumble)

AMATEUR
- They're amateurs
- Then again it's like hosting: a mid tower in your house because it's looks like & smells like a mid tower PC (Aren't you glad we didn't step in it?). Towers are already in many people's houses.
- They cost less but what do you care? Your hosting/management fee's a flat 2.75%
- Fastest response IMO (esp. w/ backup hardware. Thx Phillip!) because it's *their* BTC that's being lost out on
- Need to be vetted & have security/insurance in place for losses/theft
- There's a trust factor: How do we know they won't run off with the miner? (By vetting obviously and public meet ups, if possible)


Hope that summed up the pros/cons of both. Please feel free to add your own concerns.  If you don't vote, I'll just assume you don't care.

And you know what they say about assuming? It makes an ass out of you and the Ming Dynasty.
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August 30, 2013, 03:32:17 AM
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I am more than open to combining groupbuys to maximise units ordered. Also Working out a GB for a conterra unit... typetypetype
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August 30, 2013, 03:41:24 AM
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You can pretty much disregard that PM I just sent you DyslexicZombei since this post says what I needed to hear.

I am more than willing to team up with Sam and bobsag3 to offer my math/cs background to their group buy.  If I ever get my BTC back from Yufi I would like to buy some shares too..

 /facepalm but i like science and communities so meh.

All of you are more than welcome to PM me for further contact information.


Currently 35 units left for Group Buys.

My vote is to Amateur... duh.. open source community has each others backs with all of our previously failed hardware from the planned Avalon builds! I have a few K16's a K1 and a sample Avalon ASIC.. Some solder paste and stencils and small tweezers if anyone needs anything  Wink

I have not invested any BTC in these buys yet so trusting me is a problem.  I am not willing to disclose my location in public here only for the safety of the rig.  Everyone that has payed any money on the rig is more than welcome to meet me in  person if possible... skype.. phone call.. text.. email.. US mail.. courier pigeon?
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August 30, 2013, 03:42:06 AM
Last edit: August 30, 2013, 03:58:54 AM by philipma1957
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I prefer amatuer  and like I said I will supply all kinds of parts. PSU's  ram and if the hoster (not me) is close I will drive the gear to his place..  I also have this


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eaton-103003275-6591-Powerware-PW5115-RM-1500-1440VA-Rack-mountable-UPS-/281151564757?pt=US_Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies&hash=item4175f06bd5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EATON-PW9130N1500T-EBM-103006439-6591-EXERNAL-BATTERY-/290778170144?pt=US_Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies&hash=item43b3bac320  


 or the equal to it.   so between the psu's and the eaton ups it would not fail so easily. I will check the exact make and models of the eaton.

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August 30, 2013, 03:45:20 AM
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I prefer amatuer  and like I said I will supply all kinds of parts. PSU's  ram and if the hoster (not me) is close I will drive the gear to his place..  I also have this


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eaton-103003275-6591-Powerware-PW5115-RM-1500-1440VA-Rack-mountable-UPS-/281151564757?pt=US_Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies&hash=item4175f06bd5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EATON-PW9130N1500T-EBM-103006439-6591-EXERNAL-BATTERY-/290778170144?pt=US_Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies&hash=item43b3bac320  


 or the equal to it.   so between the psu's and the eaton it would not fail so easily. I will check the exact make and models of the eaton.
A fellow guy with all the extra hardware Tongue.
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August 30, 2013, 04:03:49 AM
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yeah I had all the pcs for gpu mining.  I have been selling it off on ebay.  But I still have a lot of parts.

I have this ups

http://www.provantage.com/eaton-05146632-5591~7POW5018.htm

with this extended battery
http://www.provantage.com/eaton-05146639-5591~9EPW90K5.htm

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August 30, 2013, 04:05:39 AM
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Yeah but even then Im not sure how long that would power a wall of miners
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August 30, 2013, 04:21:06 AM
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your are correct that ups with battery would only work for about 4-6 hours for one unit.  So in a long blackout (think hurricane sandy)  we could be down a week.

 I lost power in NJ on and off a total of 3 out of 17 days after sandy and I was lucky compared to many.  One thing I always had was the net. But next big storm who knows.  with amateur hosting two or  3rigs could be moved to a backup (hoster) in a big storm power outage.

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August 30, 2013, 04:30:33 AM
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your are correct that ups with battery would only work for about 4-6 hours for one unit.  So in a long blackout (think hurricane sandy)  we could be down a week.

 I lost power in NJ on and off a total of 3 out of 17 days after sandy and I was lucky compared to many.  One thing I always had was the net. But next big storm who knows.  with amateur hosting two or  3rigs could be moved to a backup (hoster) in a big storm power outage.

And I would be hosting from an area in Missouri with about 12 kWh.  Micro-storms are very frequent there but power is rarely lost.  And if it is, never more than a few hours.  With amateur hosting i could help complete a network by being "centrally located" in the US.  We would have to see where everyone else is located to start building a network.  I'll put my nikes on to go rescue a rig without power somewhere.
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August 30, 2013, 04:34:08 AM
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your are correct that ups with battery would only work for about 4-6 hours for one unit.  So in a long blackout (think hurricane sandy)  we could be down a week.

 I lost power in NJ on and off a total of 3 out of 17 days after sandy and I was lucky compared to many.  One thing I always had was the net. But next big storm who knows.  with amateur hosting two or  3rigs could be moved to a backup (hoster) in a big storm power outage.

And I would be hosting from an area in Missouri with about 12 kWh.  Micro-storms are very frequent there but power is rarely lost.  And if it is, never more than a few hours.  With amateur hosting i could help complete a network by being "centrally located" in the US.  We would have to see where everyone else is located to start building a network.  I'll put my nikes on to go rescue a rig without power somewhere.
Missouri?
Same here.. But i get a chunk cheaper. Would love to get some local help tho.
My current plan Is I have 2 separate places of residence with separate power, but a connected network with 2 ISP's. Then if space/demand requires I can get a place down town with more space and cooling. All else fails, I have a 3rd location in STL that I can use to host up to ~150A worth and have everything back up and running in under 4 hours. [All assuming I can drive]
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August 30, 2013, 04:41:19 AM
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your are correct that ups with battery would only work for about 4-6 hours for one unit.  So in a long blackout (think hurricane sandy)  we could be down a week.

 I lost power in NJ on and off a total of 3 out of 17 days after sandy and I was lucky compared to many.  One thing I always had was the net. But next big storm who knows.  with amateur hosting two or  3rigs could be moved to a backup (hoster) in a big storm power outage.

And I would be hosting from an area in Missouri with about 12 kWh.  Micro-storms are very frequent there but power is rarely lost.  And if it is, never more than a few hours.  With amateur hosting i could help complete a network by being "centrally located" in the US.  We would have to see where everyone else is located to start building a network.  I'll put my nikes on to go rescue a rig without power somewhere.
Missouri?
Same here.. But i get a chunk cheaper. Would love to get some local help tho.
My current plan Is I have 2 separate places of residence with separate power, but a connected network with 2 ISP's. Then if space/demand requires I can get a place down town with more space and cooling. All else fails, I have a 3rd location in STL that I can use to host up to ~150A worth and have everything back up and running in under 4 hours. [All assuming I can drive]

That is awesome news!

Here is my situation.  I am currently in LA but I am returning to the STL suburbs to live with my Dad and work on mathematics at a University in STL.  I will be commuting in and out of the city every day to study / tutor and would love to help you.  I will be leaving LA in about a week or so.  Feel free to PM me for contact info man!
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August 30, 2013, 04:42:05 AM
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your are correct that ups with battery would only work for about 4-6 hours for one unit.  So in a long blackout (think hurricane sandy)  we could be down a week.

 I lost power in NJ on and off a total of 3 out of 17 days after sandy and I was lucky compared to many.  One thing I always had was the net. But next big storm who knows.  with amateur hosting two or  3rigs could be moved to a backup (hoster) in a big storm power outage.

And I would be hosting from an area in Missouri with about 12 kWh.  Micro-storms are very frequent there but power is rarely lost.  And if it is, never more than a few hours.  With amateur hosting i could help complete a network by being "centrally located" in the US.  We would have to see where everyone else is located to start building a network.  I'll put my nikes on to go rescue a rig without power somewhere.
Missouri?
Same here.. But i get a chunk cheaper. Would love to get some local help tho.
My current plan Is I have 2 separate places of residence with separate power, but a connected network with 2 ISP's. Then if space/demand requires I can get a place down town with more space and cooling. All else fails, I have a 3rd location in STL that I can use to host up to ~150A worth and have everything back up and running in under 4 hours. [All assuming I can drive]

That is awesome news!

Here is my situation.  I am currently in LA but I am returning to the STL suburbs to live with my Dad and work on mathematics at a University in STL.  I will be communiting in and out of the city every day to study / tutor and would love to help you.  I will be leaving LA in about a week or so.  Feel free to PM me for contact info man!

Already did Tongue
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Hey Guys,
This is all exciting news, I vote amateur. All the collocation proposals from GB members looking good, my preference still goes to philipma1957, Keep in in Jersey, woah! Smiley
I am also really happy to see Sam, voxelot, and Bobsag team up. I am interested in some shares so who do I talk to? Diff rates are going up so we better go big or go home. I am working on a pet project that might be a help to us, might not too so I am still working out the details before I open my mouth here.

So SaVoBob get in touch and we can talk. 
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I also vote amateur.

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Hey Guys,
This is all exciting news, I vote amateur. All the collocation proposals from GB members looking good, my preference still goes to philipma1957, Keep in in Jersey, woah! Smiley
I am also really happy to see Sam, voxelot, and Bobsag team up. I am interested in some shares so who do I talk to? Diff rates are going up so we better go big or go home. I am working on a pet project that might be a help to us, might not too so I am still working out the details before I open my mouth here.

So SaVoBob get in touch and we can talk.  
 

I AM GOOD   for lots and lots of spare parts.  

The wife will kill me if I host. In house I am going to stick with sticks.

 In fact I just sold 3 blades at cost on ebay as the wife said no go.

i will run about 100 sticks and maybe 2 jallys as mining is very addicting.

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Hey Guys,
This is all exciting news, I vote amateur. All the collocation proposals from GB members looking good, my preference still goes to philipma1957, Keep in in Jersey, woah! Smiley
I am also really happy to see Sam, voxelot, and Bobsag team up. I am interested in some shares so who do I talk to? Diff rates are going up so we better go big or go home. I am working on a pet project that might be a help to us, might not too so I am still working out the details before I open my mouth here.

So SaVoBob get in touch and we can talk.  
 

I AM GOOD   for lots and lots of spare parts.  

The wife will kill me if I host. In house I am going to stick with sticks.

 In fact I just sold 3 blades at cost on ebay as the wife said no go.

i will run about 100 sticks and maybe 2 jallys as mining is very addicting.

Ahh the pesky wives are getting all you developers.. well I dev single but I'm only 27.... still no plans to change this... off topic.

I know bobsag3 is very serious about hosting.  As I am just as serious about making sure nothing happens to his location / backup locations.  He would probably need spare parts on need by need basis.  Who knows what the future holds for our miners but they are the communities babies and will be well taken care of.  I know for a fact I will take pictures and start a thread from the Missouri host location so everybody can drool over their investment.  

Plus I can play a good host if anyone would like to personally visit the miners.  My location used to facilitate a hospital in the 1920's.  It is quite large with plenty of spare rooms for long distance travelers.

Sheriff is personal friends and lives across the street from my family.  I have coded open source with MisterHouse home automation for a small business in Missouri in the past as well as GV licensed API so the IP cameras will always be rolling.
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September 01, 2013, 03:45:32 AM
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Thanks again for the offer of hosting from those outside the co-op, but we're limiting the hosting for this Group Buy to co-op members as they're part owners of the device & should have a first shot. We have serious offers of very inexpensive hosting with quite a bit of built-in security from within the co-op from firsttimeuser, BeepBeep2, and even kaz911 in the Netherlands with dual network connections if we agreed to the shipping delay to Europe to gain network redundancy.

No worries though, there's plenty of interest from outside the co-op for hosting opportunities for those with ultra cheap electricity/bandwidth. Averaging over 100 hits a day on ebay for miner hosting services.

I'm receiving a trickle of PM votes. I won't say how the voting is going on that side but voting ends on Monday night at 9PM HST.
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