DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 26, 2013, 07:48:19 PM |
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Is there still 4 unpaid (avaiable) shares?
No, it was payments sent to the wrong wallet address that I thought were unpaid shares. I went thru the R2 shares/payments w/ a fine tooth comb & found the errors. 2.46BTC for R2 was sent to the R3/R4 wallet on purpose by -Redacted- in case shares opened up. I had also sent extra BTC there to help out which I moved back. Long & short: we're all paid up for R2-R4 and we're only awaiting 1 payment for 1 share in R4, for all GBs. 2 shares opened up which he had already pre-paid & it was immediately applied to our Buyout, which should take 1-3 days depending on HashFast getting back to the Seller; I know John's on travel so hopefully he'll authorize Cara to do the ownership and/or Shipping location change. If the MPP kicks in, I may have to have the Order 616 seller mail us the extra chips at our cost. == As for open shares in the co-op: Thomas & I are taking backup reservations for R4 in case there's refunds anywhere in R1-R4 and someone would like to apply their R4 backup share reservation to R1-R3. Refunds aren't fun from a GBC's POV, but sometimes stuff happens & people need to drop out (which is why a good GBC has some BTC on hand for instances like this; it's not expected you keep 100% of the sale on hand, but some reserve BTC is a good practice).
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abdullahadam
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September 26, 2013, 07:49:25 PM |
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Please update the OP, it still says 4 shares left in bold red letters thanks DZ
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 26, 2013, 07:51:37 PM |
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Please update the OP, it still says 4 shares left in bold red letters thanks DZ
Sorry. Done (well, at least w/ my posts; I won't delete people's posts in any of our co-op threads unless they're hurtful or trolling). Thanks Adam! As always, everyone's input and help is appreciated and welcome.
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abdullahadam
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September 26, 2013, 07:54:16 PM |
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Please update the OP, it still says 4 shares left in bold red letters thanks DZ
Sorry. Done (well, at least w/ my posts; I won't delete people's posts in any of our co-op threads unless they're hurtful or trolling). Thanks Adam! As always, everyone's input and help is appreciated and welcome. Strange.. I still see it FLASH SALE: We have 4 at-cost shares available in a Baby Jet est. to be delivered on Nov. 1 in a professional colocation site in Missouri run by bobsag3 and a business partner. TL;DR: 1 share = 10-12.5 GH/s for Order 616, a Day 1 shipment as the 64th miner Paid for. We'll likely vote to double hashrate at 25% extra cost.
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 26, 2013, 08:03:25 PM |
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Doh! I changed the title thread but missed removing the top thread additional text. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 26, 2013, 08:12:34 PM |
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all good now! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thank you! When you said OP I thought you were talking about the OP on Page 16 when I thought the 4 shares opened up since our wallet was short. But obviously you meant the *other* OP. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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bobsag3
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September 26, 2013, 10:06:12 PM |
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So I know we have extra funds in R2-R4 I think for UPS etc right?
How about a little less beefy UPS and a extra air conditioner for all of them? I could give all the machine a nice little corner of the warehouse with their own special cooling. Would alow us to get any extra OC out of them.
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 27, 2013, 06:03:39 AM |
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I had some initial concerns but Bob was able to help me understand his local situation much better. He says if there's an outage of longer than 20 minutes it will take hours to get power back online. On the bright side: after checking, he says there hasn't been any outages for longer than 8 minutes in the last 7 years, and none in 2012. In that case, since as far as fund-raising, we're an at-cost co-operative - or as close as possible without being a charity - so I'm in for this plan because: 1) HF chips seem to want to be massively cooled and will Overclock best in cold conditions unlike 55nm Bitfury chips, for example. 2) Even if we only get a 15% boost in Overclocking due to the frigid conditions, that would allow us to overclock a 1.2TH/s Sierra from: say 1380GH/s with a 15% overclock to 1560GH/s for a 30% Overclock which could do wonders for our mining attempts.[/color] 3) HF is estimating their MPP of 2-4X extra hashrate shipped to customers based on stock hashrate ROI calculations. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 4) As long as we get to 20 min. est. battery backup (*with* overclocking because that draws extra power), I'm fine with using extra funds on extra A/C for the HF miners as long as the co-op is fine with this. == To the co-operative:Thoughts on the extra funds to be used for A/C?
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aneutronic
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September 27, 2013, 09:16:41 AM |
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Sounds good to me. We can also back off on the OC during battery backup to extend the run time.
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baros008
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September 27, 2013, 11:42:08 AM |
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I prefer A/C over battery backup with this low probability of outages.
Do you have results of hashrate upgrade vote?
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bobsag3
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September 27, 2013, 01:05:49 PM |
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Just confirmining on top of any ac we may purchase, the warehouse has its own built in AC, + the Missouri Winter
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jungle_dave
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September 27, 2013, 03:53:30 PM |
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Just confirmining on top of any ac we may purchase, the warehouse has its own built in AC, + the Missouri Winter
We are going to need extra AC sooner or later. If we have good vents at the warehouse then the Missouri winter + dehumidifiers might be cost effective in the short term. Its the summer months that will get be a challenge, Im hoping we will be in upgrade mode by then so with the extra heat there is no avoiding the AC subject in the long term. The question is do we need it now? 1) HF chips seem to want to be massively cooled and will Overclock best in cold conditions unlike 55nm Bitfury chips, for example. 2) Even if we only get a 15% boost in Overclocking due to the frigid conditions, that would allow us to overclock a 1.2TH/s Sierra from: say 1380GH/s with a 15% overclock to 1560GH/s for a 30% Overclock which could do wonders for our mining attempts.[/color] 3) HF is estimating their MPP of 2-4X extra hashrate shipped to customers based on stock hashrate ROI calculations. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 4) As long as we get to 20 min. est. battery backup (*with* overclocking because that draws extra power), I'm fine with using extra funds on extra A/C for the HF miners as long as the co-op is fine with this. == To the co-operative:Thoughts on the extra funds to be used for A/C?Agree with the higher thermal footprint of HF chips requiring higher airflow and lower temps, + we will be getting more chips = more heat. I would say, lets research prices, get it up and working and see how far we can push the boundaries. If an outside air source is unfeasible I say we go with a beefed up AC now (preferably blue!). It would be ideal if we had both ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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bobsag3
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September 27, 2013, 06:26:14 PM |
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Just confirmining on top of any ac we may purchase, the warehouse has its own built in AC, + the Missouri Winter
We are going to need extra AC sooner or later. If we have good vents at the warehouse then the Missouri winter + dehumidifiers might be cost effective in the short term. Its the summer months that will get be a challenge, Im hoping we will be in upgrade mode by then so with the extra heat there is no avoiding the AC subject in the long term. The question is do we need it now? 1) HF chips seem to want to be massively cooled and will Overclock best in cold conditions unlike 55nm Bitfury chips, for example. 2) Even if we only get a 15% boost in Overclocking due to the frigid conditions, that would allow us to overclock a 1.2TH/s Sierra from: say 1380GH/s with a 15% overclock to 1560GH/s for a 30% Overclock which could do wonders for our mining attempts.[/color] 3) HF is estimating their MPP of 2-4X extra hashrate shipped to customers based on stock hashrate ROI calculations. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 4) As long as we get to 20 min. est. battery backup (*with* overclocking because that draws extra power), I'm fine with using extra funds on extra A/C for the HF miners as long as the co-op is fine with this. == To the co-operative:Thoughts on the extra funds to be used for A/C?Agree with the higher thermal footprint of HF chips requiring higher airflow and lower temps, + we will be getting more chips = more heat. I would say, lets research prices, get it up and working and see how far we can push the boundaries. If an outside air source is unfeasible I say we go with a beefed up AC now (preferably blue!). It would be ideal if we had both ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I am working on having a large air intake installed in the wall right behind my current rack, and then a pair of exhausts in the vaulted ceiling. This should mean for minimal - to no AC needed from November thru march based on my research.
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 27, 2013, 06:44:16 PM |
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As for voting: I have to go thru PMs but every one that left their input here and via PM has been unanimous in attempting the 100% Hashrate upgrade at 25% more.
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Shall we begin collecting funds for the R1 & R2 upgrades? If so, we can begin collecting them in the R2 wallet we used.
I have ~.7 BTC there leftover I can apply to my portion of the R2 upgrade: 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH
If we don't collect enough funds, somehow, I'll refund anyone that paid for the upgrade, at no restock fee. I'm not going to order the upgrade unless we have almost all the funds in hand, though.
Edit: Est. cost per share for upgrade: $43, using Bitstamp rate.
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thomas_s
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September 27, 2013, 06:45:40 PM |
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As for voting: I have to go thru PMs but every one that left their input here and via PM has been unanimous in attempting the 100% Hashrate upgrade at 25% more.
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Shall we begin collecting funds for the R1 & R2 upgrades? If so, we can begin collecting them in the R2 wallet we used.
I have ~.7 BTC there leftover I can apply to my portion of the R2 upgrade: 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH
If we don't collect enough funds, somehow, I'll refund anyone that paid for the upgrade, at no restock fee. I'm not going to order the upgrade unless we have almost all the funds in hand, though.
I think I may have forgotten to vote, but I vote for more hash. How much to send to the wallet?
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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September 27, 2013, 06:47:25 PM |
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As for voting: I have to go thru PMs but every one that left their input here and via PM has been unanimous in attempting the 100% Hashrate upgrade at 25% more.
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Shall we begin collecting funds for the R1 & R2 upgrades? If so, we can begin collecting them in the R2 wallet we used.
I have ~.7 BTC there leftover I can apply to my portion of the R2 upgrade: 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH
If we don't collect enough funds, somehow, I'll refund anyone that paid for the upgrade, at no restock fee. I'm not going to order the upgrade unless we have almost all the funds in hand, though.
I think I may have forgotten to vote, but I vote for more hash. How much to send to the wallet? Est. cost per share for upgrade: $43, using Bitstamp rate. I can transfer that from your R4 23 share refund if you'd like.
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thomas_s
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September 27, 2013, 06:49:08 PM |
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As for voting: I have to go thru PMs but every one that left their input here and via PM has been unanimous in attempting the 100% Hashrate upgrade at 25% more.
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Shall we begin collecting funds for the R1 & R2 upgrades? If so, we can begin collecting them in the R2 wallet we used.
I have ~.7 BTC there leftover I can apply to my portion of the R2 upgrade: 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH
If we don't collect enough funds, somehow, I'll refund anyone that paid for the upgrade, at no restock fee. I'm not going to order the upgrade unless we have almost all the funds in hand, though.
I think I may have forgotten to vote, but I vote for more hash. How much to send to the wallet? Est. cost per share for upgrade: $43, using Bitstamp rate. I can transfer that from your R4 23 share refund if you'd like. Sounds good.
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September 27, 2013, 07:04:34 PM |
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thomas_s
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September 27, 2013, 07:09:47 PM |
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DZ just post an address and we'll all just send you coin, then you buy miners and give us profits =)
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