[PrimeDice] (Staff Only) Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting

[freedomno1]

I think Stunna can Always expect some degree of spam / non-constructive posts if a pay-per-post method is used.  I don't think 0.0006 BTC per post is a bad reward IF there are no limits. This means that this can be a great campaign for those senior and hero members that do post a lot (constructive) posts on this forum. For people which are not that active, there are better solutions, as there are also other parties which pay out more than. These might have more restrictions though, and might pay out for example max 0.01 BTC or so (for a minimum required post count of 10, or nothing as Bitmixer is doing now).

Actually I guess thinking about it 4X might not be a bad deal
Since 0.12 for 50 or 0.12 at 200 with an unlimited cap means that a 400 post average user gets to 0.24 a month for 8 X the posts not particularly impossible to attain and be constructive and easy as heck to monitor from a spam viewpoint.
The member level tiers might be an issue though but I can see everyones occam razor argument simpler and what not makes sense.

Interesting discussion anyways do change my models up now and then but people do think of other interesting ones.

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[Lauda]

Your suggestion is selfish as it would only apply to ~700 people, most of which do not participate in signature campaigns. You are clearly trying to get a larger share of stunna's advertising budget. Plus only allowing Heros would not give pd the exposure they want/need/are willing to pay for.

At one point almost every thread had several pd signatures (granted a lot of this was spam) and it gave them a lot of exposure to potential gamblers.

No, from the looks of it, I'd say no. Let me quote myself again.

The best thing would be a fixed rate if you were to avoid spamming.

In no way does this earn me more of the advertising budget. Why is everyone focusing on the payout? The issue was always SPAM.
It's a well known thing that most spammers were members at lower ranks. The higher the rank, the less spammers there are.
Depending on how far people go back here, (which is not far looking at their rank) in the past people were known to make 2-3k posts in a month. And no, they were not Hero Members (possibly not Seniors either).  

Keep in mind that it is much easier to buy a ton of Senior accounts, which could potentially be a problem at times.

[Quickseller]

Your suggestion is selfish as it would only apply to ~700 people, most of which do not participate in signature campaigns. You are clearly trying to get a larger share of stunna's advertising budget. Plus only allowing Heros would not give pd the exposure they want/need/are willing to pay for.

At one point almost every thread had several pd signatures (granted a lot of this was spam) and it gave them a lot of exposure to potential gamblers.

No, from the looks of it, I'd say no. Let me quote myself again.

The best thing would be a fixed rate if you were to avoid spamming.

In no way does this earn me more of the advertising budget. Why is everyone focusing on the payout? The issue was always SPAM.
It's a well known thing that most spammers were members of lower ranks. The higher the rank, the less spammers there are.
Depending on how far people go back here, (which is not far looking at their rank) in the past people were known to make 2-3k posts in a month. And no, they were not Hero Members (possibly not Seniors either). 

The reason I say you are being selfish is because you are asking for a rule that will allow a very limited number of potential participants. If there are a small number of potential participants then Stunna will need to offer a much higher rate in order to get a lot of people to join his campaign.

A fixed rate deal would not do anything to stop spamming. If the campaign were to payout .1 for 50 posts then people would try to quickly spam their way to 50 posts on one account, then use a 2nd account to spam their way to 50 posts, and continue this process until they either run out of accounts or the payment period is up. This means that if an account gets banned for spamming on a fixed rate deal, they still potentially can use other accounts to spam (assuming they do not mind risking getting caught ban evading), where as if the campaign operates on a pay per post structure then a user will have less of an incentive to have multiple accounts and if their "spam" account gets banned then they can no longer spam.

[sj2199]

what do u mean by staff members..all the users of primedice or just devs,mods or others who have some special post on the site

[michietn94]

what do u mean by staff members..all the users of primedice or just devs,mods or others who have some special post on the site

they mention "staff member" for bitcointalk forum

not from primedice

All the main ranks that can be handed out to normal users are: Brand New, Newbie, Jr. Member, Member, Full Member, Sr. Member, and Hero Member.
In addition to the main rankings, there are also sub-rankings that can be applied, and those are: SCAMMER, Donator, and VIP.
Finally, staff sub-rankings are as follows: Staff, Moderator, Global Moderator, Administrator, and Founder.

[botany]

what do u mean by staff members..all the users of primedice or just devs,mods or others who have some special post on the site

From the sticky thread in the meta section

Ranks

All the main ranks that can be handed out to normal users are: Brand New, Newbie, Jr. Member, Member, Full Member, Sr. Member, and Hero Member.
In addition to the main rankings, there are also sub-rankings that can be applied, and those are: Donator, and VIP.
Finally, staff sub-rankings are as follows: Staff, Moderator, Global Moderator, Administrator, and Founder.

Staff Rank	Description	Tag
Staff:	Shown when moderators (see next point) post outside of the sections that they moderate. The tags under their usernames are dependent on their post group.	variable
Moderator:	Shown when moderators of specific sections post within those sections. Gets 5 gold coins, of which the last is shown as half faded-out green.
Global Moderator:	Applied to Staff that have moderation privileges in all boards. Gets 5 gold coins, of which the last is half teal colored.
Administrator:	Has all available permissions and can appoint moderators and perform other administrative tasks. Gets 5 gold coins, of which the last is shown half red regardless of post count.
Founder:	Reserved for Satoshi, gets 5 platinum coins under his name.

[Sutters Mill]

A fixed rate deal would not do anything to stop spamming. If the campaign were to payout .1 for 50 posts then people would try to quickly spam their way to 50 posts on one account, then use a 2nd account to spam their way to 50 posts, and continue this process until they either run out of accounts or the payment period is up.

You very rarely see people spamming on the fixed rate deals, and if they are just report them. People don't have an endless supply of Senior accounts they can just move on to the next when they do their 50 posts or even get banned.

This means that if an account gets banned for spamming on a fixed rate deal, they still potentially can use other accounts to spam (assuming they do not mind risking getting caught ban evading), where as if the campaign operates on a pay per post structure then a user will have less of an incentive to have multiple accounts and if their "spam" account gets banned then they can no longer spam.

This makes no sense at all.

[Lauda]

A fixed rate deal would not do anything to stop spamming. If the campaign were to payout .1 for 50 posts then people would try to quickly spam their way to 50 posts on one account, then use a 2nd account to spam their way to 50 posts, and continue this process until they either run out of accounts or the payment period is up.

You very rarely see people spamming on the fixed rate deals, and if they are just report them. People don't have an endless supply of Senior accounts they can just move on to the next when they do their 50 posts or even get banned.

This is where my point is.
Take Hero members or higher. It's not like every second person has an additional hero member account(s).
On a pay per post structure is where most people spam. Just switching from alts the whole day and posting to maximize profits and not get banned (due to 1 account going way too high on the count).

A fixed rate with 50 posts is great. 50 posts in a 30 day period is great. The members who don't have time at times (the non spammers, older, working.. people that actually have a life) will still be able to meet the requirements at the end of the period.

[redsn0w]

A fixed rate deal would not do anything to stop spamming. If the campaign were to payout .1 for 50 posts then people would try to quickly spam their way to 50 posts on one account, then use a 2nd account to spam their way to 50 posts, and continue this process until they either run out of accounts or the payment period is up.

You very rarely see people spamming on the fixed rate deals, and if they are just report them. People don't have an endless supply of Senior accounts they can just move on to the next when they do their 50 posts or even get banned.

This is where my point is.
Take Hero members or higher. It's not like every second person has an additional hero member account(s).
On a pay per post structure is where most people spam. Just switching from alts the whole day and posting to maximize profits and not get banned (due to 1 account going way too high on the count).

A fixed rate with 50 posts is great. 50 posts in a 30 day period is great. The members who don't have time at times (the non spammers, older, working.. people that actually have a life) will still be able to meet the requirements at the end of the period.

Why only Hero members or higher ?if you had been   Sr. member I think (100%) that you had written :

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Take Sr. members or higher.

[Lauda]

Why only Hero members or higher ?if you had been   Sr. member I think (100%) that you had written :

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Take Sr. members or higher.

You can get a Sr.member account for 0.2 BTC...

[redsn0w]

Why only Hero members or higher ?if you had been   Sr. member I think (100%) that you had written :

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Take Sr. members or higher.

You can get a Sr.member account for 0.2 BTC...

Yes , it seems that you are right  but Stunna will take the final decision.

[Quickseller]

Why only Hero members or higher ?if you had been   Sr. member I think (100%) that you had written :

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Take Sr. members or higher.

You can get a Sr.member account for 0.2 BTC...

you can also buy hero accounts. If you buy an account you have an incentive to not spam because if you do then you will have waisted a lot of money for an account that now is not generating any income.

I think most of the spam is from account farmers who are just trying to rank up their accounts so they can later sell them.

This also goes to my prior point. If he only opens it to hero members and higher then the value of your hero will increase.

[Lauda]

you can also buy hero accounts. If you buy an account you have an incentive to not spam because if you do then you will have waisted a lot of money for an account that now is not generating any income.

I think most of the spam is from account farmers who are just trying to rank up their accounts so they can later sell them.

This also goes to my prior point. If he only opens it to hero members and higher then the value of your hero will increase.

ROI for a senior account is 2-3 months. Hero accounts are more rare, cost, more and take a longer time to ROI.
This was always an issue. I'm just posting my opinion and suggestions to avoid the spam that we used to have.
Let's see what happens.

[Dabs]

How much are Hero accounts going for these days?

[philipma1957]

A flat rate 100 posts. Senior members and up.

Tier it :
Senior ....      0.1
Hero .......     0.11
Legendary .... 0.12


Right now I am rent my sig for .2 btc a month 200 posts.  So far I did 280 will end up doing 350 or so.

But I am retired and in my 50's.  I have spare time and don't mind  shooting some b.s.  on a net forum.

Been on forums since 1997.  I must have 50000 posts scattered around on :

anandtech
macrumors
123macmini
parts express tech talk
hashtalk
bitcointalk

  are   my bigger forums.  So to me a few bucks a month say  .1 or .2 btc is nice .

 It needs to be a flat rate. putting in jr makes too many.  I made the jumps close so the senior guys don't fell left out.

if you want put in a full member but make his much lower  100 posts and .05 this helps cut down the list.

[311]

Dang, so I take it if a fixed rate deal does come back it'll only be open to Seniors?

[MoreBloodWine]

Dang, so I take it if a fixed rate deal does come back it'll only be open to Seniors?

Discussing ideas is one thing bet lets not speculate too much, all it usually ends up doing is causing headaches and arguments, Stunna will say what's what if and when he reopens the campaign in one form or another.

[azguard]

A fixed rate deal would not do anything to stop spamming. If the campaign were to payout .1 for 50 posts then people would try to quickly spam their way to 50 posts on one account, then use a 2nd account to spam their way to 50 posts, and continue this process until they either run out of accounts or the payment period is up.

You very rarely see people spamming on the fixed rate deals, and if they are just report them. People don't have an endless supply of Senior accounts they can just move on to the next when they do their 50 posts or even get banned.

This is where my point is.
Take Hero members or higher. It's not like every second person has an additional hero member account(s).
On a pay per post structure is where most people spam. Just switching from alts the whole day and posting to maximize profits and not get banned (due to 1 account going way too high on the count).

A fixed rate with 50 posts is great. 50 posts in a 30 day period is great. The members who don't have time at times (the non spammers, older, working.. people that actually have a life) will still be able to meet the requirements at the end of the period.

Fixed rate is good

Tier it :
Senior ....      0.1
Hero .......     0.11
Legendary .... 0.12

This would be great for 75 post in 30 days not 100.

[Clegg]

Have two options. A pay per post for maybe a select hand picked number of quality posters and a fixed rate deal for all the rest (though you could maybe check people's posts before they sign up to avoid spammers etc).

[Eric Cartman]

Just do fixed rate at first, then think about other funny stuff later