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Author Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s  (Read 786812 times)
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December 21, 2013, 05:39:01 AM
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Did i read this correctly on the website, If i place an order today it will take almost a year (10/3/2014) to receive a working product? If that is the case, that would be one hell of a scary purchase. i dont even want to begin to do the math on what the difficulty will be a year from now. 100 GH/s will be the equivalent of a 333MH/s usb today by that time. Can someone confirm that is in fact the case, the 10/3/14 availability date as listed here ( http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html )
It's 10th of March, 2014. Smiley
quoted for truth. By October 2014, we're hoping to be done with batch 1 Smiley

All irrelevant now anyways, just realized that BA is holding on a 10 unit minimum order, AND now confirming that expected delivery is almost a year away (October 2014) as quoted. Chance of ROI EVER is now .00000000000000000000001 %. I do give you an A+ for efforts in design and manufacture, but a 10 unit min. order and an almost year wait time, there are about 15 companies out there with better products and much sooner delivery.

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December 21, 2013, 05:41:01 AM
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Did i read this correctly on the website, If i place an order today it will take almost a year (10/3/2014) to receive a working product? If that is the case, that would be one hell of a scary purchase. i dont even want to begin to do the math on what the difficulty will be a year from now. 100 GH/s will be the equivalent of a 333MH/s usb today by that time. Can someone confirm that is in fact the case, the 10/3/14 availability date as listed here ( http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html )
It's 10th of March, 2014. Smiley
quoted for truth. By October 2014, we're hoping to be done with batch 1 Smiley

All irrelevant now anyways, just realized that BA is holding on a 10 unit minimum order, AND now confirming that expected delivery is almost a year away (October 2014) as quoted. Chance of ROI EVER is now .00000000000000000000001 %. I do give you an A+ for efforts in design and manufacture, but a 10 unit min. order and an almost year wait time, there are about 15 companies out there with better products and much sooner delivery.

No. March 10 is the confirmed date. He was just saying that by October they hope to be done with batch 1. 10 unit min order can be avoided by using the reseller minersource.net
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December 21, 2013, 05:51:03 AM
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Did i read this correctly on the website, If i place an order today it will take almost a year (10/3/2014) to receive a working product? If that is the case, that would be one hell of a scary purchase. i dont even want to begin to do the math on what the difficulty will be a year from now. 100 GH/s will be the equivalent of a 333MH/s usb today by that time. Can someone confirm that is in fact the case, the 10/3/14 availability date as listed here ( http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html )
It's 10th of March, 2014. Smiley
quoted for truth. By October 2014, we're hoping to be done with batch 1 Smiley

All irrelevant now anyways, just realized that BA is holding on a 10 unit minimum order, AND now confirming that expected delivery is almost a year away (October 2014) as quoted. Chance of ROI EVER is now .00000000000000000000001 %. I do give you an A+ for efforts in design and manufacture, but a 10 unit min. order and an almost year wait time, there are about 15 companies out there with better products and much sooner delivery.




Makes much more sense now. will be ordering one in the next few minutes.

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December 21, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
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Does anyone have any information or know what should we expect from US customs when ordering from BA?
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December 21, 2013, 02:00:05 PM
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Sorry for the confusion. If you order today, your prospero will be shipped after March 10th 2014. This is to set better expectations of how long it'll take to ship.

The heatsyncs are for the X-3 only. The X-1 will have a different heatsync.
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December 21, 2013, 02:01:43 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
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December 21, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
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Batch 1.

Also, I'm sorry for not being on top of the PM's here. I still have to wait 5 minutes between replies.

For those who are interested in becoming a reseller, please email the following:

1. a scanned copy of your business registration details
2. a scanned copy of the ID of the director
3. confirmation that you've read, understood and accept our terms and conditions.
4. your website address
5. the link where our products will be sold
6. the complete address where you want your goods shipped (including post/zip code)
7. contact phone number where you can be reached by the courier

to matthew at blackarrowsoftware dot com

Please do it soon because we're going to start the next phase of the process soon.
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December 21, 2013, 02:45:06 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

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December 21, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

Absolutely.
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December 21, 2013, 03:02:23 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

Absolutely.
I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused to be honest.

So at this point in time, the official shipping date still remains at February 24, 2014. However, we should expect for the product to no sooner than March 10, 2014. Am I reading this right?

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December 21, 2013, 03:10:47 PM
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posting again so it's at the top of a page rather than the bottom of page 53 where nobody will see it.


I'm sorry for not being on top of the PM's here. I still have to wait 5 minutes between replies.

For those who are interested in becoming a reseller, please email the following:

1. a scanned copy of your business registration details
2. a scanned copy of the ID of the director
3. confirmation that you've read, understood and accept our terms and conditions.
4. your website address
5. the link where our products will be sold
6. the complete address where you want your goods shipped (including post/zip code)
7. contact phone number where you can be reached by the courier

to matthew at blackarrowsoftware dot com

Please do it soon because we're going to start the next phase of the process soon.
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December 21, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

Absolutely.
I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused to be honest.

So at this point in time, the official shipping date still remains at February 24, 2014. However, we should expect for the product to no sooner than March 10, 2014. Am I reading this right?



Batch 1 is still being filled. Those who ordered when the date said Feb 24th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting on Feb 24th 2014. Those who order when the date says March 10th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting March 10th 2014.
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December 21, 2013, 04:35:58 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

Absolutely.
I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused to be honest.

So at this point in time, the official shipping date still remains at February 24, 2014. However, we should expect for the product to no sooner than March 10, 2014. Am I reading this right?



Batch 1 is still being filled. Those who ordered when the date said Feb 24th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting on Feb 24th 2014. Those who order when the date says March 10th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting March 10th 2014.

Ugh Sorry Matt than you should be calling this Batch 2, having two different ship date's on Batch 1 is a huge difference.
Not getting my miner shipped until march 10th and your charging the SAME for the product?
That cut's thousands off potential profit.
Especially after flooding the market with batch one?
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December 21, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
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Matt, I created my order 5 days ago when it was still saying Feb 24 shipping. I have been unable to transfer using BTC so will now do a wire transfer. If you receive my bank wire in the coming week can you confirm that my Prospero X3 will be available on February 24? BTW I also included hosting so I would expect the unit to start hashing on Feb 24 or 25 at the latest.

Also, how confident are you that the Prospero X3 Batch 1 will indeed hit the Feb 24 target date, given that there is no news on the ASIC tapeout as yet. With two months left, and the Spring Festival holiday in China that leaves barely 7 weeks for tapeout, server prototyping, and testing.

I appreciate your response Smiley

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December 21, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

Absolutely.
I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused to be honest.

So at this point in time, the official shipping date still remains at February 24, 2014. However, we should expect for the product to no sooner than March 10, 2014. Am I reading this right?



Batch 1 is still being filled. Those who ordered when the date said Feb 24th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting on Feb 24th 2014. Those who order when the date says March 10th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting March 10th 2014.

Ugh Sorry Matt than you should be calling this Batch 2, having two different ship date's on Batch 1 is a huge difference.
Not getting my miner shipped until march 10th and your charging the SAME for the product?
That cut's thousands off potential profit.
Especially after flooding the market with batch one?

it's still the first batch of chips. It's 2 weeks difference.
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December 21, 2013, 07:39:05 PM
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Matt, I created my order 5 days ago when it was still saying Feb 24 shipping. I have been unable to transfer using BTC so will now do a wire transfer. If you receive my bank wire in the coming week can you confirm that my Prospero X3 will be available on February 24? BTW I also included hosting so I would expect the unit to start hashing on Feb 24 or 25 at the latest.

Also, how confident are you that the Prospero X3 Batch 1 will indeed hit the Feb 24 target date, given that there is no news on the ASIC tapeout as yet. With two months left, and the Spring Festival holiday in China that leaves barely 7 weeks for tapeout, server prototyping, and testing.

I appreciate your response Smiley

Regards,
Uzair

We're absolutely on track for Feb 24th. We're going to be unaffected by the Chinese new year.

Orders are shipped by the order they're paid. Since you purchased 5 days ago, I don't expect you're going to be hashing on the same day. We're going to be filling orders very quickly but you still have to allow some time for everything to be put in place.
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December 21, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
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March 10th 2014 is a new batch 1 date or its batch 2?
Just to clarify.  Is round 1 batch 1 still projected for February 24, 2014 shipping?

Absolutely.
I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused to be honest.

So at this point in time, the official shipping date still remains at February 24, 2014. However, we should expect for the product to no sooner than March 10, 2014. Am I reading this right?


Batch 1 is still being filled. Those who ordered when the date said Feb 24th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting on Feb 24th 2014. Those who order when the date says March 10th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting March 10th 2014.

Ugh Sorry Matt than you should be calling this Batch 2, having two different ship date's on Batch 1 is a huge difference.
Not getting my miner shipped until march 10th and your charging the SAME for the product?
That cut's thousands off potential profit.
Especially after flooding the market with batch one?

it's still the first batch of chips. It's 2 weeks difference.

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2 weeks difference is a margin of $6,000 return or more.... those first two-four weeks are the crucial ROI of the product.
I waited to order being told plenty were left, when in fact plenty were not left over for the first order. but for a two week delay.
I can't see buying at this point.

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Batch 1 is still being filled. Those who ordered when the date said Feb 24th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting on Feb 24th 2014. Those who order when the date says March 10th 2014 will have their orders shipped starting March 10th 2014.

 I placed on order on Dec 2nd (229x) that I was not able to submit payment for within 24 hours, and have been waiting on two responses now to sales@blackarrowsoftware.com inquiring about how to best resolve the status of this order.

 Can you offer any insight as to when sales might catch up with their email backlog ?

 Thank you.
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December 21, 2013, 11:26:55 PM
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Bobsag3 is it possible for you to see if payments have gone through to BA even though its not your site? I sent a wire 14th december and it still says waiting for payment. I'm getting a little worried that i sent to wrong place. BA's support seem to ignore emails unfortunately.
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December 22, 2013, 12:01:03 AM
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Hey Bob, I wired money on Monday and nothing has changed to paid on my account yet, I understand that this is a manual process, but when can we expect updates for wire transfers?
I have over 20 wires still "pending", I update wires twice a day, ones that clear in the morning and ones that clear before I go to sleep.
Let me know if your order has not cleared by tomorrow.

Ok will do, thanks for being vigilant.
Bob, are you able to check for status of payment that was made to BAS?

I wired my payment over on the 16th this month & the status still showing as "Processing payment". Should I be concerned?
I can check the status of tickets etc, but not payments :/
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