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April 10, 2018, 10:18:53 AM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.
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April 10, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.

The different account trick works.
However, i'm working on ways to avoid this in some future version.

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April 10, 2018, 11:51:02 AM
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The miner sometimes stop.
Boght windows stays open, but the cards dont do anything.

Any clues?

Could you share you're logs when it happens?

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April 10, 2018, 04:43:15 PM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.

The different account trick works.
However, i'm working on ways to avoid this in some future version.
Any chance that this one is coming along? This is the only complaint that I have with with NemosPlus.


https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner/issues/450
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April 10, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.

The different account trick works.
However, i'm working on ways to avoid this in some future version.
Any chance that this one is coming along? This is the only complaint that I have with with NemosPlus.


https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner/issues/450

I kind of do not agree on the proposed solution on this one.
One, monitoring WerFault would trigger even if another process triggers it. This is not specific enough.
Second, I feel that if ccminer (or others) are crashing, there are things to fix on the rig to get it stable.
   One example might be to review OC settings or use the prerun feature to set algo specific OC settings.

So this, to me, and until i'm proven wrong, is a rig issue and not a product issue.
Note that i'm honestly opened to be proven wrong here. I just haven't seen any occurrences of this on any of my Rigs

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April 10, 2018, 06:06:35 PM
Last edit: April 10, 2018, 06:41:26 PM by JCS-CCT
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Feature request:

Low hashrate payout estimate.

Example:

Zerg: If seven days of earnings is calculated to be less than .008 then change estimate payout to the next Sunday (if calculated > .004.. if lower, then the following Sunday).
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April 10, 2018, 07:00:31 PM
Last edit: April 10, 2018, 07:29:54 PM by Zellko
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Hello Everyone,

Quick question: How to configure the cryptonight miner ?

When Nplus launch the cryptonight miner, it crash  Undecided

Thanks !
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April 10, 2018, 07:42:25 PM
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Hello Everyone,

Quick question: How to configure the cryptonight miner ?

When Nplus launch the cryptonight miner, it crash  Undecided

Thanks !

Could you try to copy the command line in the condole window and launch the miner with it. Then you should see if the miner gives any error message.
Note: I do have a xmrig update queued for next version.

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April 10, 2018, 07:44:47 PM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.

The different account trick works.
However, i'm working on ways to avoid this in some future version.
Any chance that this one is coming along? This is the only complaint that I have with with NemosPlus.


https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner/issues/450

I kind of do not agree on the proposed solution on this one.
One, monitoring WerFault would trigger even if another process triggers it. This is not specific enough.
Second, I feel that if ccminer (or others) are crashing, there are things to fix on the rig to get it stable.
   One example might be to review OC settings or use the prerun feature to set algo specific OC settings.

So this, to me, and until i'm proven wrong, is a rig issue and not a product issue.
Note that i'm honestly opened to be proven wrong here. I just haven't seen any occurrences of this on any of my Rigs

MrPlus

let's discuss this one here.
Anyone else feel a need for this type of a feature (with justification please) ?

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April 10, 2018, 07:47:12 PM
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The miner sometimes stop.
Boght windows stays open, but the cards dont do anything.

Any clues?

Could you share you're logs when it happens?

yes , i can. but where do i find the logs that you want?

I also have another problem.
i really like the window where it says what i can earn in $, so i try to run NPlusMiner-ConsoleUp, or NPlusMiner With ConfigFile.bat so i can get that "third" window up so i can see what the different algos are giving me in $ .

But then i get lots of errors  as "object not found" , "path not found " and it reffers to suprmienr and something in powershell. something like getchilditemcommand.
i have a picture, but i can not find where to upload it.
Any idea whats wrong?

When i run "NPlusminer" there are no errors, exept where it just stops ( happend twice) but i dont get this "third" window up.

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April 10, 2018, 08:28:55 PM
Last edit: April 10, 2018, 09:00:30 PM by JCS-CCT
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let's discuss this one here.
Anyone else feel a need for this type of a feature (with justification please) ?

I don't need.  I think it is an OC issue.  I'm not having any issues with NPlusMiner.

I do think that adding some kind of first run/startup marker to the logs would be useful.

Something like this that show when NPlusMiner starts and when the Miners start/stop
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NPlusMiner started at 3/25/2018 1:15:20 AM 
Miners started at 3/25/2018 1:15:45 AM
"date","algo","wallet","username","Stratum"
"3/25/2018 1:16:20 AM","X17","","","stratum+tcp://x17.mine.blazepool.com:3737"
"3/25/2018 1:21:32 AM","Skunk","","","stratum+tcp://skunk.mine.blazepool.com:8433"
"3/25/2018 1:26:44 AM","Xevan","","","stratum+tcp://xevan.mine.blazepool.com:3739"
"3/25/2018 1:31:56 AM","Phi","","","stratum+tcp://phi.mine.blazepool.com:8333"
"3/25/2018 1:37:08 AM","Bitcore","","","stratum+tcp://bitcore.mine.zergpool.com:3556"
"3/25/2018 1:42:19 AM","Keccakc","","","stratum+tcp://keccakc.mine.zergpool.com:5134"
"3/25/2018 1:47:30 AM","Groestl","","","stratum+tcp://groestl.mine.blazepool.com:5333"
Miners stopped at 3/25/2018 1:49:52 AM
Miners started at 3/25/2018 1:51:20 AM
"3/25/2018 1:52:42 AM","Lyra2z","","","stratum+tcp://lyra2z.mine.zergpool.com:4553"
"3/25/2018 1:57:53 AM","MyriadGroestl","","","stratum+tcp://myr-gr.mine.blazepool.com:5433"
"3/25/2018 2:03:05 AM","Blakecoin","","","stratum+tcp://blakecoin.mine.blazepool.com:5743"
"3/25/2018 2:08:19 AM","Skein","","","stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zergpool.com:4933"
"3/25/2018 2:13:30 AM","X16r","","","stratum+tcp://x16r.mine.zergpool.com:3636"
"3/25/2018 2:18:42 AM","Nist5","","","stratum+tcp://nist5.mine.zergpool.com:3833"
NPlusMiner started at 3/25/2018 2:20:42 AM
Miners started at 3/25/2018 2:21:10 AM
"3/25/2018 2:23:54 AM","Lyra2RE2","","","stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zergpool.com:4533"
"3/25/2018 2:29:06 AM","Keccak","","","stratum+tcp://keccak.mine.blazepool.com:5133"
"3/25/2018 2:34:20 AM","NeoScrypt","","",""

The last markers show when the system crashed and then started
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April 10, 2018, 08:32:15 PM
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Hello Everyone,

Quick question: How to configure the cryptonight miner ?

When Nplus launch the cryptonight miner, it crash  Undecided

Thanks !

Could you try to copy the command line in the condole window and launch the miner with it. Then you should see if the miner gives any error message.
Note: I do have a xmrig update queued for next version.

The miner was launched, but I add the following error: https://imgur.com/a/a6adT

I'm quite sure it's just the miner configurations, the number of threads/block things...

Nevertheless, I will wait for the updated version Smiley  

I also have another question, is there a way to setup MPH to use Europe stratuum ? I'm mining on the Asian one.
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April 10, 2018, 08:35:12 PM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.

The different account trick works.
However, i'm working on ways to avoid this in some future version.
Any chance that this one is coming along? This is the only complaint that I have with with NemosPlus.


https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner/issues/450

I kind of do not agree on the proposed solution on this one.
One, monitoring WerFault would trigger even if another process triggers it. This is not specific enough.
Second, I feel that if ccminer (or others) are crashing, there are things to fix on the rig to get it stable.
   One example might be to review OC settings or use the prerun feature to set algo specific OC settings.

So this, to me, and until i'm proven wrong, is a rig issue and not a product issue.
Note that i'm honestly opened to be proven wrong here. I just haven't seen any occurrences of this on any of my Rigs

MrPlus
I can see your point. It is almost certainly tied to OC values in my case.

That kind of turns it into a discussion about the definition of stability then... As an example: I'll have a machine up for days when suddenly a known stable algo will cause ccminer to fail. Anecdotally I've had one run solely x16r for 30 hours straight before erroring out. I've had it happen on Skein (after ~1.5 hours) & x17 (after 10+ hours) as well. I closed out the error message popup, restarted NemosPlus, and it went back to work unhindered. No changes to algoOC.bat

On the other hand I've got one machine who has been up for 75 hours at the moment without any issues or OC failures.

I suppose this is probably not an issue for you guys to resolve with a public facing code update or feature request.
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April 10, 2018, 09:04:45 PM
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I dont quite understand how the main window profitability is calculated. It is sometimes even negative in my case, how can that be?
https://c2n.me/3TlzXER

Thanks for your job anyway, a very stable miner and nice interface.

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April 10, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
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I dont quite understand how the main window profitability is calculated. It is sometimes even negative in my case, how can that be?
https://c2n.me/3TlzXER

Thanks for your job anyway, a very stable miner and nice interface.

It takes a few hours.
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April 10, 2018, 09:50:52 PM
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I dont quite understand how the main window profitability is calculated. It is sometimes even negative in my case, how can that be?
https://c2n.me/3TlzXER

Thanks for your job anyway, a very stable miner and nice interface.

You might see negative values when the pool reevaluates estimations.
You've been running for only 21 minutes per the screenshot. Give it some time, it will get accurate.

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April 10, 2018, 09:52:48 PM
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Is it normal to loose focus when miners switch? It brings up windows taskbar while in Chrome YouTube Fullscreen.

Yep it's normal. Many people mine on dedicated rigs where it's not an issue. A while ago I remember someone managed to set the miner going on one account and switch to another one to work/watch videos/whatever but not sure if that still works.

The different account trick works.
However, i'm working on ways to avoid this in some future version.
Any chance that this one is coming along? This is the only complaint that I have with with NemosPlus.


https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner/issues/450

I kind of do not agree on the proposed solution on this one.
One, monitoring WerFault would trigger even if another process triggers it. This is not specific enough.
Second, I feel that if ccminer (or others) are crashing, there are things to fix on the rig to get it stable.
   One example might be to review OC settings or use the prerun feature to set algo specific OC settings.

So this, to me, and until i'm proven wrong, is a rig issue and not a product issue.
Note that i'm honestly opened to be proven wrong here. I just haven't seen any occurrences of this on any of my Rigs

MrPlus
I can see your point. It is almost certainly tied to OC values in my case.

That kind of turns it into a discussion about the definition of stability then... As an example: I'll have a machine up for days when suddenly a known stable algo will cause ccminer to fail. Anecdotally I've had one run solely x16r for 30 hours straight before erroring out. I've had it happen on Skein (after ~1.5 hours) & x17 (after 10+ hours) as well. I closed out the error message popup, restarted NemosPlus, and it went back to work unhindered. No changes to algoOC.bat

On the other hand I've got one machine who has been up for 75 hours at the moment without any issues or OC failures.

I suppose this is probably not an issue for you guys to resolve with a public facing code update or feature request.

Thanks for yout insights.
It is still a nice discussion to have. I might not get the full scale of the issue.
Any other argumented insights, please keep posting.

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April 11, 2018, 10:02:21 AM
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The miner sometimes stop.
Boght windows stays open, but the cards dont do anything.

Any clues?

Could you share you're logs when it happens?

yes , i can. but where do i find the logs that you want?

I also have another problem.
i really like the window where it says what i can earn in $, so i try to run NPlusMiner-ConsoleUp, or NPlusMiner With ConfigFile.bat so i can get that "third" window up so i can see what the different algos are giving me in $ .

But then i get lots of errors  as "object not found" , "path not found " and it reffers to suprmienr and something in powershell. something like getchilditemcommand.
i have a picture, but i can not find where to upload it.
Any idea whats wrong?

When i run "NPlusminer" there are no errors, exept where it just stops ( happend twice) but i dont get this "third" window up.



I will investigate this one.
Still, do not worry, NPlusMiner is still mining per the screenshot you shared. You are still earning.

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April 11, 2018, 08:02:26 PM
Last edit: April 11, 2018, 09:32:57 PM by klepikolse
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I still do not understand the principle of measuring profitability in the miner. As far as I have understood, after initial benchmarking the miner calculates and chooses the most profitable algo. But i dont understand how the main screen revenue is calculated. It is derived from the pool data during the last several hours? What is the time period for that calculation? So these are average, not current earnings, and current earnings can be seen in benchmarks?

And a stupid question https://clip2net.com/s/3TnqKjp
Does it calculate the sum for zergpool and zergpoolplus? maybe the actual earnings are twice lower?

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April 12, 2018, 08:04:30 AM
Last edit: April 12, 2018, 09:08:58 AM by MrPlus
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I still do not understand the principle of measuring profitability in the miner. As far as I have understood, after initial benchmarking the miner calculates and chooses the most profitable algo. But i dont understand how the main screen revenue is calculated. It is derived from the pool data during the last several hours? What is the time period for that calculation? So these are average, not current earnings, and current earnings can be seen in benchmarks?

And a stupid question https://clip2net.com/s/3TnqKjp
Does it calculate the sum for zergpool and zergpoolplus? maybe the actual earnings are twice lower?

Does this help?
https://github.com/MrPlusGH/NPlusMiner-Documentation/wiki/Estimations-and-Projections

You are right. You should not select several variants of the same pool. This makes no sense from an estimations perspective and will give weird mining decisions. It will results in showing wrong values for BTC/D as well.

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