[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[glendall]

Ukyo what does any of what you wrote in the last few pages have to do with my situation:

I transferred Bitcoin to WeExchange thinking I'd buy some shares on Bitfunder (I did not).

I could never withdraw my bitcoin I deposited. No reason ever given. 

Wtf happened to my Bitcoin?  It's really simple.  You owe me the bitcoin. You can't use people's deposits for all sorts of random purposes to try to get out of a mess you made for yourself. You simply stole mine, and hundreds others money. I had nothing to do with any of the Active Mining stuff or anything.

WTF happened to my bitcoins?  You accepted deposits for over 2 months knowing you could not honor them, or let your users withdraw their own fucking funds they deposited? That is simply thievery. You can't really expect to walk away from this??

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[Bitdust]

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Wow.   You could not write this script for a reality TV series.   
TL/DR:  Some older gent that seems to know about as much about technology as columbo, is quoting "law" to some other guy and insisting that the "laws" allow him to "take" the illegally listed, promoted and distributed shares in his "virtual" company that seems to be in "reality" a disaster.
This is great...    Would this be tried in federal court?   Would officers of the court be obligated to ask the SEC to charge Ken before the civil case is tried?   Please keep me up on this script, I am typing my show proposal now.   Watch out Duck Dynasty because this gong show is going to be far more entertaining.

^^that.

[knybe]

@Uyko:

dude you disappear with funds that don't belong to you for MONTHS with no plausible explanation whatsoever as to what happened to OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY and then you have the nerve to come in here and troll?

gimme a fucken break. At least here you know where your shit is and that it still exists… you cannot say the same to other people.

You've got quite a mess to clean up. I suggest you GTFO of here and look somewhere else to do that job. Stop side stepping the issue.

[gogxmagog]

@Uyko:

dude you disappear with funds that don't belong to you for MONTHS with no plausible explanation whatsoever as to what happened to OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY and then you have the nerve to come in here and troll?

gimme a fucken break. At least here you know where your shit is and that it still exists… you cannot say the same to other people.

You've got quite a mess to clean up. I suggest you GTFO of here and look somewhere else to do that job. Stop side stepping the issue.

well put, good sir.

[Ukyo]

@Uyko:

dude you disappear with funds that don't belong to you for MONTHS with no plausible explanation whatsoever as to what happened to OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY and then you have the nerve to come in here and troll?

gimme a fucken break. At least here you know where your shit is and that it still exists… you cannot say the same to other people.

You've got quite a mess to clean up. I suggest you GTFO of here and look somewhere else to do that job. Stop side stepping the issue.

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A. I did not disappear. You are mistaken.

B. There is a difference between trolling and stating facts. I have stated facts.

C. I am cleaning up the mess. That is why I am here fighting for BTC to pay out to those users.

[Jasun7211]

Wow. Really ...I can't believe UKyo came alive again.   I guess Hitler was right....the best place to hide shit is in plain sight.  Good show chap.  I'm catholic and I know a guilty mind when I see one.....I highly recommend you try to cure your doings furst before even thinking of commenting on anyone else.   Glass houses buddy....glasses houses.   At least you will hold a famous spotnin BTC history ...I.e the 10k bitcoin for a pizza guy, and the 7k btc on a hard drive in a landfill guy......but more along the lines of a Sam from Labcoin guy.....you should at least  have the decency to close this S/N and create a 2nd S/N like VE did to troll.   Geesh.  Guilty catholic trolls be lazy theae days........too bad silk road wasn't still open....

[nyc77]

@Uyko:

dude you disappear with funds that don't belong to you for MONTHS with no plausible explanation whatsoever as to what happened to OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY and then you have the nerve to come in here and troll?

gimme a fucken break. At least here you know where your shit is and that it still exists… you cannot say the same to other people.

You've got quite a mess to clean up. I suggest you GTFO of here and look somewhere else to do that job. Stop side stepping the issue.

+1

Maybe Ken should set up an "ActM Claims Portal" and let Ukyo withdraw a few Satoshis...

[Ukyo]

+1

Maybe Ken should set up an "ActM Claims Portal" and let Ukyo withdraw a few Satoshis...

Just trying to do what people ask and give out money.
I apologize for trying.

[nyc77]

+1

Maybe Ken should set up an "ActM Claims Portal" and let Ukyo withdraw a few Satoshis...

Just trying to do what people ask and give out money.
I apologize for trying.

How bout "giving out" the 94% that you still owe?

I apologize for asking.

[kactech]

+1

Maybe Ken should set up an "ActM Claims Portal" and let Ukyo withdraw a few Satoshis...

Just trying to do what people ask and give out money.
I apologize for trying.

You can pay part of your liabilities by selling shares at premium price from monopolistic position and you still complain, I don't think that's the point of your actions here. I don't support taking control over someones assets but, given facts, it probably isn't worst solution for people whom you owe.

[nookfoo]

Ukyo,
can you please explain what happened to the BTC which were deposited to WeExchange by users (Including ActM/Ken)? Were they spent? Lost?

Why is it that bitcoins which were deposited are unable to be returned?

Thanks

[iSnow]

C. I am cleaning up the mess. That is why I am here fighting for BTC to pay out to those users.

Look Mister, you stole a hell of a lot of money from people. Why don't you just fuck off and work to repay those you scammed instead of throwing feces here?

You have to this point done jack shit to reimburse AMC/VMC or Ken or any of the share holders, now you are dishing out legal and financial advice? Get off that crack and get working.

I for one are all for Ken selling off 106 BTC worth of your shares and take the money. Everyone knows you are never going to give back thousands of BTC you stole. If you disagree with Ken selling off shres, just sue him, if you are in the right, the court will find a way to reimburse you.

[iSnow]

Ukyo,
can you please explain what happened to the BTC which were deposited to WeExchange by users (Including ActM/Ken)? Were they spent? Lost?

• http://www.dailydot.com/business/bitcoins-trapped-australian-exchange/
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316546.0
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337523.0

Just call him, his phone numbers are linked in one of the threads.

The funny thing is, Ukyo is playing the big guy here with a lot of legal leverage, but on IRC...

<Ukyo> not gong to fight ken
<Ukyo> its not possible
<Ukyo> he will dowahtever he is going to do, i have no control

(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg4688758#msg4688758)

So basically he is so desperate he is just biting at everything and believes strong-arming Ken in this thread is his last resort. Or - more likely - he is trying to make his creditors believe he won't get the shares from Ken and at the same time he is trying to pocket the money.

[nyc77]

+1

Maybe Ken should set up an "ActM Claims Portal" and let Ukyo withdraw a few Satoshis...

Just trying to do what people ask and give out money.
I apologize for trying.

How bout "giving out" the 94% that you still owe?

I apologize for asking.

Aaaand he's gone... back to Cyprus or in Vegas partying/gambling away other people's money? Who knows...

[Ukyo]

To be clear once again because no one is listening:

First of all, there are laws against preferential payments.
No one user of weex should get paid off before others.

Secondly:
All I am trying to do is sell my shares of ActM to pay off some of Weex debt.
You are correct.

You said I am desperate.
You are correct. I am desperately working towards any and all situations that would allow me to make good on debts.
If I was not, then I would not be trying and would definitely be a scammer like TF or LabCoin who chose to disappear.

I have not gone to Vegas.

If I had access to other peoples BTC it would be dispersed just like the previous amounts.
That is the goal I am trying to achieve with ActM.

[Subcide]

^ For what it's worth, I think this is reasonable.

[nyc77]

To be clear once again because no one is listening:

First of all, there are laws against preferential payments.
No one user of weex should get paid off before others.

Secondly:
All I am trying to do is sell my shares of ActM to pay off some of Weex debt.
You are correct.

You said I am desperate.
You are correct. I am desperately working towards any and all situations that would allow me to make good on debts.
If I was not, then I would not be trying and would definitely be a scammer like TF or LabCoin who chose to disappear.

I have not gone to Vegas.

If I had access to other peoples BTC it would be dispersed just like the previous amounts.
That is the goal I am trying to achieve with ActM.

You don't make the rules/laws, which means you are a victim in this whole situation. Understood.

Where are the BTC of your BF/Weex customers currently?

[gjpminingco]

Ukyo If you were working to get everyone's BTC back then you would have gotten it back by now, Any respectable Service site OP would have backed up Wallet files and done Daily or Hourly backups  and it would just be a matter of reloading the wallet that is holding everyone's funds, I have been in BTC since Very very early 2010 I am not a Stupid person the only reason that you cant replace anyones BTC is because you have Run off and Cashed them In and Spent the cash, I think it would do better for people for you to just come out and admit it and fess up and i think most people would stop hoping and wishing they will see their coins then


Be a man and Just fess up that you Spent/Cashed them in already

[deizel]

For what it's worth, there are now 1.5TH mining machines using 55nm tech:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251423.msg4699831#msg4699831

[iSnow]

First of all, there are laws against preferential payments.
No one user of weex should get paid off before others.

Stop bullshitting.

You cannot payback your customers/creditors and this means you are bankrupt and your assets should be liquidated. You are stalling this process to pocket money that belongs to other people. There are laws against that.