Official Thread: AMT

[EdManet]

I've been watching this thread for a while and it's good to see the progress you're making.
The pictures you posted don't really show how everything connects up. Is this a USB rig and can regular mining software like cgminer detect the device? Or does this connect to the network via CAT5 like a block eruptor blade?
Also, what size power supply is that in there? What kind of power does each board require?

Thanks and keep up the good work.

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[Biffa]

Why the stock mITX cases? Lian Li right? Seems expensive for miner cases, I assume this is just to mock up?

Black:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08/ (circa $100)

Silver:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q07/ (circa $55)

[RBCastro]

Why the stock mITX cases? Lian Li right? Seems expensive for miner cases, I assume this is just to mock up?

Black:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08/ (circa $100)

Silver:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q07/ (circa $55)

On the site there are different cases

[Biffa]

Why the stock mITX cases? Lian Li right? Seems expensive for miner cases, I assume this is just to mock up?

Black:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08/ (circa $100)

Silver:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q07/ (circa $55)

On the site there are different cases

The ones on the site are just renders

[bsnmine]

So, AMT, my own emails and messages have gone unanswered as well. I'm within driving radius of your office; are there any units for sale at this time of any capability or hashrate that I could purchase for cash or BTC in person? I'd be happy to post my experience here in the forum as a recommendation, fwtw.

[RBCastro]

So, AMT, my own emails and messages have gone unanswered as well. I'm within driving radius of your office; are there any units for sale at this time of any capability or hashrate that I could purchase for cash or BTC in person? I'd be happy to post my experience here in the forum as a recommendation, fwtw.

Mine too, i'm waiting to get them in hands.

So many scammers here, that I prefer to get mine personally.

[Cheshyr]

I live and work nearby, so I could possibly stop by, say hi, and vouch for them on the forum if they wanted to set something up.  Maybe a limited preview with some photos and a status update, but no sensitive information.  I don't have a reputation here in the forum, but if we're looking for a 3rd party to 'verify' them...  I could make the trip.

[Cefalu]

Why the stock mITX cases? Lian Li right? Seems expensive for miner cases, I assume this is just to mock up?

Black:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08/ (circa $100)

Silver:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q07/ (circa $55)

I've been watching this thread.

Yes, lets hope this is a mock-up because the pictures, as posted leave me skeptical, but way less so than if I had actually fronted some money.
Some flaws, as I see them:
1) Although there is plenty of space, the heatsinks are mounted BELOW the sources of heat. wtF?
2) the HDD enclosure and heatsinks appear to have flakes of aluminum or something shiny... never a good thing to mill and drill near the components, could be mistaken
3) I dont see any sort of comm bus between the boards or anywhere else.. unless those 3 connector terminal blocks are for some really snappy RS232/422/485...
4) how does one comm with the overall device? a NIC or some I can't quite make out?
5) Not much air movement from the powersupply fan facing the side of the case... and why not just use the powersupply MOUNT? Is that supply just positioned in the middle of
the case for some reason? to make the case appear full?
6) pricing... 1.2THs/5999USD   
7) no wattage etc specs posted on the site, which is barely operational, except for the 'pay with these methods' part?
most all the commentary and pics up to this point, and yes, I also watched the video.
9) that camera may be the miner, may provide > hashrate than the item behind it

AMT, you guys might take a page out of BTC-e's playbook and advertise 1.2THs for 15-20% lower than anyone else, you'll get a lot more SUCKAs.

-or- PROVE me wrong, I want nothing more that for some additional players to get into hardware.
Again the question will go out there:

ANYONE, ANYONE?
COME FORWARD if you are a satisfied customer, show us the specs, in vids/pictures?

[Biffa]

I've been watching this thread.

5) Not much air movement from the powersupply fan facing the side of the case... and why not just use the powersupply MOUNT? Is that supply just positioned in the middle of
the case for some reason? to make the case appear full?

That is the powersuply's normal position in that case, its supposed to have the PC motherboard vertically behind it. Like so:

[Cheshyr]

1) Although there is plenty of space, the heatsinks are mounted BELOW the sources of heat. wtf?

Many ICs generate the majority of their heat at the junction interface, not the top of the chip.  The boards are expected to use vias and copper pours to transfer the heat away to heatsinks.  The heatsink placement on these boards reflects good thermal design in this case.

3) I dont see any sort of comm bus between the boards or anywhere else.. unless those 3 connector terminal blocks are for some really snappy RS232/422/485...

Those are pretty standard terminal blocks, and they give the end user a lot more flexibility than a custom connector and cable assembly.

[gamersglory]

So if I ordered a 80gh miner from you now how fast would i get it. What kind of warranty do i get you say lifetime but what is the lifetime?  and you say on your site i get miners protection. also if i ordered now would I get the A1 chips in it and not the Bitfury?

[Cefalu]

Great, thanks Biffa, I think I stand corrected on the powersupply issue.
1 down.


And thanks to you as well, Cheshyr, I did not know about the thermal behaviour at the junctions. You seem knowledgeable
on the subject, as far as I know. The video shows a fan attached to the sink, oriented upward, or laying on its side by the end of the clip.
2 down?

Cheshyr, about the 3 connectors -
we cannot see anything more, and the video shows a USB connection at right-angles to the 4-pin molex.
Which would be obstructed by the HDD case. Unless the cards as installed are diff from what is depicted.
The boards depicted somewhere above appear to be from technobit
http://technobit.eu/index.php?id_product=55&controller=product&id_lang=1

and the 3 pin term seems to be used ( by technobit ) for power?


Thank you for your replies.

[Cheshyr]

Glad to help.

An example of typical high-power IC thermal profiles and solutions can be found on the Coincraft A1 chip datasheet, on page 14 and 15.  Usually you'd see this on Power ICs, but mining ICs have been getting pretty high power lately.

http://bitmine.ch/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/CoinCraft-A1.pdf

As for the connector...  good point.  That does look like the USB connector is facing towards the front case fan, although...

http://postimg.org/image/ivjzy7blp/

...in that picture, we can see the USB connector, and it appears there's a little space within the HDD enclosure for cable routing.  Also, the HDD enclosure could be mounted to face either way, so it's likely not an issue.

[BuhTuglia]

Howdy.

Just going back over the AMT web page... some cool stuff... What is the reference I see (under power consumption usually) to Turbo mode? Why would you run a miner in anything but turbo mode? What's the point of having a switch? Do some days you just feel like not mining quite so many coins?

russell

[Syke]

Just going back over the AMT web page... some cool stuff... What is the reference I see (under power consumption usually) to Turbo mode? Why would you run a miner in anything but turbo mode? What's the point of having a switch? Do some days you just feel like not mining quite so many coins?

If your wallet gets too full, the coins start spilling out on the ground, and are lost.

[Cheshyr]

Howdy.

Just going back over the AMT web page... some cool stuff... What is the reference I see (under power consumption usually) to Turbo mode? Why would you run a miner in anything but turbo mode? What's the point of having a switch? Do some days you just feel like not mining quite so many coins?

russell

It was my understanding that your earnings diminished as total network hash rates increased.  Eventually, your earnings will compete with the cost of power to run the miners.  Most mining solutions are significantly more power efficient at lower hash rates, so some people turn down the power to maintain a decent earning/power cost ratio as the miner approaches end of usefulness.

[sh1k1g4m1]

I can go stop by the current address this week if anyone wants to pay for gas, should be about $10 (they are ~70 mi from where I work). My BTC address is in the sig.

I'll be sure to post pics of the place and if someone wants to find out anything specific about the place let me know. I'll update this thread if anyone is generous enough to pay for the gas.

[AMT_miners]

Guys anyone that invested or contributed this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329674.new#new    A cloud hosting sharing program or what ever needs to go check out the updates on that thread. In general some guy lied and said he ordered 35ths from us and then sold micro cloud positions or something. No one checked or verified with us about this order or anything until today when someone emailed sales and simply asked if there was an order placed for 35th's and gave us the link to that thread. We immediately responded with what sucks to be the truth but I just want to inform anyone monitoring our thread for that reason that they need to go check updates there.

IF ANYONE IS EVEN CONSIDERING ORDERING/BUYING A MINER OFF EBAY OR THIS FORUM AND THAT PERSON HAS CLAIMED TO PURCHASE AN AMT MINER OR IS OFFERING TO SELL A PRE-ORDERED MINER NEEDS TO VERIFY IT DIRECTLY WITH US AT AMT.  CUSTOMER IDENTITY PROTECTION IS ONE THING BUT WE ARE NOT WE'RE TO LET PEOPLE GET ROBBED BY OTHER PEOPLE.

WRITE TO SALES@ADVANCEDMINERS.COM  AND GIVE US A NAME - EMAIL - ORDER NUMBER  ETC AND WE'LL TELL IF YOU IT IS A LEGITIMATE ORDER AND IF SOMEONE HAS PAID FOR IT OR NOT!

[AMT_miners]

I can go stop by the current address this week if anyone wants to pay for gas, should be about $10 (they are ~70 mi from where I work). My BTC address is in the sig.

I'll be sure to post pics of the place and if someone wants to find out anything specific about the place let me know. I'll update this thread if anyone is generous enough to pay for the gas.

Give it a week or so, we're moving to a new office on the main line right off lancaster ave ok, let us get set up and you can stop by and if there is something available you can have it. Don't worry, we're hard at work.

[AMT_miners]

I can go stop by the current address this week if anyone wants to pay for gas, should be about $10 (they are ~70 mi from where I work). My BTC address is in the sig.

I'll be sure to post pics of the place and if someone wants to find out anything specific about the place let me know. I'll update this thread if anyone is generous enough to pay for the gas.

Give it a week or so, we're moving to a new office on the main line right off lancaster ave ok, let us get set up and you can stop by and if there is something available you can have it.