SimonBeCoinin
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October 07, 2014, 02:41:34 PM |
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Ok, Alpha T defended my small claim court per below
How much of the claim do you dispute? I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form. Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it? No, for other reasons. Defence The claimant's address is a non-uk address. We have not done any business with this individual and the address is out of uk jurisdiction. Signed I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true M.Akram Managing Director 03/10/2014 Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you 66 DICKENSON ROAD MANCHESTER M14 5HF These fucking dickheads are liers. Please stop doing business with them.
Has anyone from none UK residential address filed samll claim against AT yet? I also contacted CC to charge back today.
Yes, I have. I am in the US. You need to register a UK address. See my step by step on "How to sue Alpha T" here http://fightalpha.net/index.php?board=8.0I got a reply email from Money Claim Online and advised me the following A request fro Directions Questionnaires has been issued in this case and you are required to complete and submit the attached form by 23/10/14, the form will be returned if you have not provided an address within the UK .Thus, I need to submit the Directions Questionnaires. But I am ensure how does this work by submitting the requested form. In regards to obtaining UK address, I checked the web site that you provided me and would like to confirm whether I need the mail forwarding service http://www.cityaddress.co.uk/mailbox-services/mail-forwarding.html or else ? Could you advise. Package Monthly Quarterly 6 Monthly Annually Personal Use Allows up to 4 personal names but no business names £13.00 £37.50 (£12.50 per month) £62.50 (£10.41 per month) £99.99 (£8.33 per month) We'd need to see the form to help on that, but it seems they're telling you to use a UK address, which you can obtain by using that or a similar service I think. I'm not sure what you're asking, exactly. If you can clarify maybe someone can help
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bumface
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October 07, 2014, 04:48:15 PM |
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This thread is pretty entertaining. Keep going.
im glad my loss of 9500 dollar is entertaining to you
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allcoinminer
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October 07, 2014, 04:53:47 PM |
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This thread is pretty entertaining. Keep going.
im glad my loss of 9500 dollar is entertaining to you Haven't you took any legal action if you think you lost or being cheated? This thread is really an entertainer when looking at these happenings.
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Nullu
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October 07, 2014, 09:08:23 PM |
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I'm waiting for: Greetings miners, we are happy to announce our Vipers are prepping for shipment. Please remit full payment. ..followed 3 days later with: Greetings miners, unfortunately the shipment was lost in transit. We will need 90 more days. But fear not, it will be wonderful. Rest assured. Which is pretty much what they did to you guys in June/July. Yes, it's quite depressing how they dangle the carrot of hope, then pull it away at the last second. Time and time again.
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bander
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October 07, 2014, 10:48:20 PM |
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so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
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cdog
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October 07, 2014, 10:52:46 PM |
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so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Was on phone with paypal for 1 hour. 3 supervisors. No dice :-(
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allcoinminer
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October 08, 2014, 07:24:39 AM |
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so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Was on phone with paypal for 1 hour. 3 supervisors. No dice :-( You try calling again and referring the above persons experience to paypal. PM the above member and get some reference details paypal emai id or case id to show paypal.
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scutzi128
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October 08, 2014, 12:34:57 PM |
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How are you connecting a scam to terrorist activity? Don't be racist you scum bag.
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vesperwillow
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October 08, 2014, 12:52:52 PM |
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How are you connecting a scam to terrorist activity? Don't be racist you scum bag.
Speculation isn't racism. The US govt is actively investigating such links, so is Scottland Yard. It doesn't hurt to report, because if they're clean they're clean and nothing will happen. Alpha took a lot of money right around the same time certain groups gained a lot of money. It could be coincidence, but some folks feel like they need to report it.
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bumface
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October 08, 2014, 02:48:12 PM |
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if the only reason people are making these terrorist claims is the name of this guy, then that is extremely rasist and utterly disgusting.
where is your evidence?
what was is based on?
how did you formulate such claims?
are you brainwashed by the bush administration?
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vesperwillow
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October 08, 2014, 03:18:25 PM |
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if the only reason people are making these terrorist claims is the name of this guy, then that is extremely rasist and utterly disgusting. That doesn't make it racist, that increases odds. where is your evidence? You don't need evidence, you only need the concern, which apparently some folks have what was is based on? The fact they took tens of millions from individuals around the same time some groups gained money, and then most of the folks in this group disappeared and have nary a trace online. how did you formulate such claims? I didn't personally call for such inquests, but I used my reasoning abilities to discern why others did. are you brainwashed by the bush administration?
Why would people in the UK who are reporting them, have anything to do with Bush? And what does Bush have to do with ongoing issues worldwide? Back on topic .. some people feel the need to report them, others don't. It's not racist, and there's also no product from AT. These are facts. Rest assured.
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October 08, 2014, 03:38:24 PM |
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You never know, if they are terrorists who prefer to cut their customer's heads off rather than give them a refund, they should be reported. If they are clean they have nothing to worry about. With the current state of events in the world, it doesn't hurt to ask the proper authorities to follow up on a group of individuals that have already demonstrated a complete disregard for their Western customers. I wouldn't be that surprised to discover this whole thing was perpetrated in an attempt to funnel large amounts of funds to people with less than good intentions. They deserve the attention. That's all i'm gonna say.
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bumface
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October 08, 2014, 03:49:26 PM Last edit: October 08, 2014, 04:03:35 PM by bumface |
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vesper willows your logic is completely flawed, just because 2 events happened around the same tme, does not mean there is a relation
in 1991 on Jan 20th - "Les Miserables," opens at Pantages Theatre, LA and Sudan's government imposes Islamic law nationwide, and yet there is no relation what so ever, only tinfoil hat people would say a bunch of guys dancing around in tights caused sudan to have an islamic state.
and if you think making the terrorist connection because of somebodys name is somehow not rasist, then you are truly confused as to what rasism is
you guys are completely brainwashed by the media, so i say it again, present even a single schred of evidence, you say you dont need evidence to make this claim, imagin if you were falsely arrested and the jjudge say, we dont need evidence, he is guilty......
here in civilisation you acuse, so you provide evidence.
just because their product is delayd, does not make them a damn terrorist, so turn of fox news and get out of your mind control state.
isis makes 3 million dollar per day selling oil, they dont need your money, who the hell would fabricate such a lengthy and elaborate hoax for this purpose. If this was a scam they would be long gone by now.
this is simply a case of people who saw profit for the taking in crypto, severely underestimated how difficult it would be, and over estimated their own capabilitys. when you mix this with external delays such as funds being frozen by paypal, the results we are seeing are all very logical
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vesperwillow
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October 08, 2014, 04:09:14 PM |
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I don't trust or use mainstream media, so way to go using a blanket generalization. Same with the Bush knock. I also said there may be no relation, but that it's likely one of many reasons why someone might report them. There's no requirement for evidence, just concern--that's straight from the Obama administration, as well as the current Scottland Yard officials. It was this same level of concern which supposedly led to the capture of 4 individuals in London yesterday.
It sounds to me like you fail english reading comprehension and critical discernment. Perhaps this is why you invested in them and others didn't? Do you even know what the term racist means? It doesn't apply to folks calling for an inquest. I've seen the same request made of the Hashfast people, who are neither of middle-eastern decent nor of the same continent.
I've never once supported reporting them to any agency, but I also don't see any evidence to call others racist for feeling concerned. I'm merely dissecting the possibility of why others do.
So why the hate? Chill out, and deal with your loss. Let others do as they please. Stay on topic, this thread is relating to providing help and information.
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bumface
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October 08, 2014, 04:21:58 PM Last edit: October 08, 2014, 04:37:30 PM by bumface |
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provide evidence or move your comments to an arian supremacy forum, and get out of bitcointalk.
you dont want to listen so i will teach you :
-calling people terrorist becasue their name is mohamed is fucking rasist.
-calling for an investigation by the fucking fbi becasue somebody is named mohamed is fucking rasist.
- blindly asuming that a person named mohamed is a muslim is fucking rasist.
- blindly asuming that a muslim making money might be a terrorist is fucking rasist.
if you dont understand that you are a rasist or not a very smart person
i guess you never heard of racial profiling.
every mohamed who is making money and fucks up a timeline should be investgated by the fbi? you guys are a perfect fit for the gestapo
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October 08, 2014, 04:29:59 PM |
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If they are clean they have nothing to worry about. Yeah, nothing to worry about. Just a possible 15 years in jail before being found innocent. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/world/middleeast/abu-qatada-acquitted-on-2nd-terrorism-charge.html?_r=0Look, clearly they've done something wrong. Whether it was an outright scam, or they really tried and couldn't meet their deadlines hardly matters to the people who have lost their money. But to accuse them of terrorism where the only evidence is they scammed a bunch of money is ridiculous. If their names were John Smith you wouldn't even bring it up. You should read Little Brother and Homeland by Cory Doctorow. While they're fiction, things like that absolutely can and do happen in the world today. I'm sure there are innocents who have been locked up in GTMO for years without a trial. Once a government or prosecutor takes aim at you, they keep going regardless of the evidence. Do some reading on Aaron Swartz. The "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear" argument is so wrong on so many levels.
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alexfgT
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October 08, 2014, 05:00:56 PM |
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Very interesting, KSC had already in all Mine, but the complexity has increased by only 20%, with a pressure washer 300mh / s per second ... it suggests that Alpha Mine starting from July ... And we have nothing to feeds that are not ready
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October 08, 2014, 05:03:49 PM |
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The missing variable in the equation is "ill-intention"
1.Having bad intentions; malevolent
ma·lev·o·lent
having or showing a wish to do evil to others.
What they have done is used every trick in the book and even invented some to NOT pay people back their money.
How would you describe this then?
Simply refuse this and ignore all requests for it.
Couldn't give a flying fuck about you.
So if John Smith did this why do you suppose he did? What about John Smith would make him an utter piece of shit? Do we look where John Smith lives? Do we look with whom John Smith associates with? Do we look at what John Smith believes in. Maybe John Smith is active on internet forums and only on forums that discuss guns. What can we assume about that?
Principle?
What on earth would foster Alpha's malevolence. Their utter disdain for the customers. Principle? They actually truly believe that you are not entitled to a refund?
Or could it be something else?
Anything else.
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October 08, 2014, 05:23:16 PM |
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The missing variable in the equation is "ill-intention"
1.Having bad intentions; malevolent
ma·lev·o·lent
having or showing a wish to do evil to others.
What they have done is used every trick in the book and even invented some to NOT pay people back their money.
How would you describe this then?
Simply refuse this and ignore all requests for it.
Couldn't give a flying fuck about you.
So if John Smith did this why do you suppose he did? What about John Smith would make him an utter piece of shit? Do we look where John Smith lives? Do we look with whom John Smith associates with? Do we look at what John Smith believes in. Maybe John Smith is active on internet forums and only on forums that discuss guns. What can we assume about that?
Principle?
What on earth would foster Alpha's malevolence. Their utter disdain for the customers. Principle? They actually truly believe that you are not entitled to a refund?
Or could it be something else?
Anything else.
Greed, plain and simple. Nothing more, nothing less.
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