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March 23, 2018, 08:40:45 PM
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Bug?  There is no "Bug".  How is it so hard to figure out that the DEPOSIT amount is LESS than the amount that I have WITHDRAWN.  Stats do not lie.

Please,  enlighten me.  What math class did you go to where this is true:

Total Deposits:  0.0596500 > Total Withdrawals:  0.37111936?

In my reality it's the complete opposite and THIS is true:

Total Deposits:  0.0596500 < Total Withdrawals:  0.37111936

Therefore my "technic" as you call it,  is working perfectly regardless of what you're bassackwards math skills tell you since obviously in this reality,  is simply wrong.  I've given the strategy I use and it works.  Period.  I'm really surprised that no one has brought this up as a viable strategy.  From the sounds of it,  I could very well be the first.  I'm not going to dig through 200 pages of non-sense to find out,  but based on your ridiculous comments,  I'd say it is the first.

As for this "bug" you keep referencing.................  THERE IS NO BUG.  But what there are however,  are bot users complaining up a storm that they are being found out and having their shit stopped and I hope it continues.  I could care less how much the free rolls give since I am NOT after the sats that they provide.  And anyone who IS concerned with how much it provides,  is either completely stupid,  OR a bot user (which is probably 80-95% of the people in here).

Not only does my stats screen prove it,  but the withdrawals themselves do as well and you can look those up as I pasted the text versions so they can easily be checked at any block explorer site.  Sometimes I have withdrawals over 80K when I get lucky on the Multiply dice game.  But for the most part,  they avg about 30-35K  and my enchash values are usually about the same as the multiply weekly withdraws.  I keep them in separate wallets just as a way for me to see how its doing and they average out to be very close to about the same.  I encash about 1x per month sometimes twice if my multiply rolls go well.  If they dont,  I really dont care because what I lose,  I regain in the rewards points.  When you say it takes 500 sats to get 1 Reward point......................  You are completely WRONG.  Why?  Because those 500 Sats were free to me.  Therefore I paid NOTHING for them other than time of maybe 30 seconds to click "roll".  That to me is a VERY good ROI.

BTW,  none of these has even mentioned the 2x, 3x, 4x, and 5x BONUS Reward points that are given out every single week either.  It is on a rolling schedule,  for instance,  this coming weekend is a 2x weekend.

For the entire weekend we’ll pay you:

    4 Reward Points for a free roll,

    2 Reward Points for every 500 satoshi wagered in Multiply BTC, and

    2 Reward Points for every referral roll

So maybe it is better that you stay under the rock you're hiding under so that the rest of us who actually understand math can continue to use Freebitco as a viable means of mining BTC.  It's not as profitable as buying a miner but it sure is cheaper.

Hello.
With "dice game" you want to say that you play Hi and Low  bet in multiply?
Wouldn't be better to buy lottery tickets instead wasting 500 satoshi(i agree free) for 1 lottery ticket and 1 reward point which equals 2 satoshi?
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March 23, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
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Please fix it.
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March 23, 2018, 09:17:56 PM
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Hello.
With "dice game" you want to say that you play Hi and Low  bet in multiply?
Wouldn't be better to buy lottery tickets instead wasting 500 satoshi(i agree free) for 1 lottery ticket and 1 reward point which equals 2 satoshi?

No,  you do not want to buy those useless things because when you buy those, you do NOT gain any reward points.  What you do gain is more free sat bonus though,  it is 20x vs Mulitply which is only 4x.  However,  since reward points are more valuable than sats,  the choice is clear,  stay away from the lottery if you want reward points (which I do).

The question most people do not seem to understand is WHY reward points are more valuable.  So while the encashing is done on a 1 to 1 basis (1 Reward point == 1 satoshi),  what you forget is how you GOT those reward points.  You got them by playing in the Multiply game.  So they are essentially left overs from that.  But,  you dont not ALWAYS lose in the multiply game.  Sometimes you get lucky and reach the 30K sat level and then you drain the account as soon as it hits 30K.  This is why Reward points are so valuable.  They allow you to play multiply game with less risk.  Also dont forget that multiply game is NOT the only way you can gain them.  You can also gain them via a "+100 Reward Point Bonus" which costs 1200 satoshis as well as all the 2x, 3x, 4x, and 5x Reward weekends.  So,  because there are so many different ways to get Reward points,  that is why they are FAR more valuable than Lottery tickets OR satoshis.  The more ways you can get an asset,  the more "liquid" it is,  the more liquid an asset is,  the more it's worth.  Basic trading principles applied to Freebitco == winning strategy.
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March 23, 2018, 09:21:06 PM
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Nunyabeezwax, you forgot to mention that the bonus is decreasing each Roll your % decrease and your bonus keep decrease except if you wagered again ans again.
I try this, and the total of Satoshi to wager don't worth the little bonus that decrease After each new roll

And wager 50 000 000 to win 100000 reward point (= 100000 sat) even if you win 47% of the bet you make, you lose 53% so.....
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March 23, 2018, 09:24:32 PM
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Yes it does you retard.  The price of bitcoin went from 6500 to 11.8K.  Thats going to cause a HUGE drop in the amount the free rolls can win as well as huge volatility.  Man you people are daft.  New users who are not use to that are going to think that it was "halved" due to some "bug" because they have no clue how the site actually functions.  Also,  a price feed issue can and HAS caused the rolls to go to 1sat as well.  Its happened several times in the past.  Those have caused quite a stir also of people thinking there was a "bug" when there was no bug to be had.  Quite simply,  the exchange it uses for the price feed was unavailable.  So if the exchange that is being used for price is very volatile,  large swings in the free rolls is going to be visible as well.  But if you are a real user of the site,  you could careless about how much the free rolls give anyway.  The real cash is made with the reward points,  not the sats.

And we all know that there is not a single exchange for crypto out there that does not have stability issues.  If such a monster existed,  everyone would be using it.  Well.  It doesnt exist.  Yet anyway.

If I had to guess,  I'd guess that the people complaining are the people who are running bots who rely upon the free roll giving as much sat as possible.  No real user would give two shits about the reward value of the free rolls anyway.  I certainly dont and I'm quite satisfied with the amount I've been able to get from it.  That is probably why the owner doesnt even bother to answer these type of requests.  They know that it's likely just a bot user.  And they dont deserve to be responded to in the first place.

And for anyone who thinks I dont know how to use the site.  Just see for yourself:  https://prnt.sc/ivec15   <--- It's hard to argue against success.  Take note of how much I've LOST in the the multiply game,  deposited, etc vs how much I've actually withdrawn.  Do you realize why there is such a large discrepency?   Which statistic is missing?  Anyone?   REWARDS POINTS ENCASHING.  I rest my case.

Oh,  and here are the TEXT versions of those withdrawals you see in the screenshot.  Feel free to look them up.  They are 100% legit.

DATE   ADDRESS   AMOUNT   TRANSACTION
2018-03-23   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00030000 BTC   CLICK
2018-03-21   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00030000 BTC   CLICK
2018-03-19   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00035458 BTC   CLICK
2018-03-13   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00040101 BTC   CLICK
2018-03-06   3LajD7tdMKXqCEAJoF9UDRjTMcCiMp6QaE   0.00109144 BTC   CLICK  <-- Encashing example.  I encash to different addresses for different reasons.  Same for normal withdraws,  I usually rotate monthly.
2018-03-05   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00040159 BTC   CLICK
2018-03-01   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00031279 BTC   CLICK
2018-02-24   12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X   0.00033261 BTC   CLICK


Now who's the fucking troll.  Bitch.

I see you like throwing names around and if I was a bot as you say, I wouldn't give a crap.  But I've been using this site for a couple of months now and I have also deposited some money.  I deposited some more this morning.  But any idiot can figure out that when the price of bitcoin goes down, the amount of sats goes up and vice versa.   What I don't like is being accused of either being a bot user as you say or dumb ass that can't do math.  I can tell that the current free roll payout is 23, but I'm only going to get 12 on my table.  It doesn't take a math genius like you to figure that out.  
If it was happening to you, you wouldn't be happy about it yet you are pleased that it has happened to the one's on here complaining about it.  Well since it hasn't happend to you, I will tell you it sucks.
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March 23, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
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Uhm,  I dont know where you got your info from,  but the Sat bonus does NOT decrease on rolls.  It decreases at the top of every hour.  The decrease is time based.  It has absolutely nothing to do with the multiply game.  However the INCREASE part of it does go up by 4x in multiply game.  It also goes up by 20x if you buy those crap lottery tickets.  But I have no interest in gaining in the free sat department.  My free sats are always 207 - 230 depending upon the price of bitcoin.  It never goes down because it's offset by my playing the multiply game.
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March 23, 2018, 09:27:40 PM
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Decrease every hour = every Roll , same goal.

So you just net and lose half for 100000 reward points. Interesting.........
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I see you like throwing names around and if I was a bot as you say, I wouldn't give a crap.  But I've been using this site for a couple of months now and I have also deposited some money.  I deposited some more this morning.  But any idiot can figure out that when the price of bitcoin goes down, the amount of sats goes up and vice versa.   What I don't like is being accused of either being a bot user as you say or dumb ass that can't do math.  I can tell that the current free roll payout is 23, but I'm only going to get 12 on my table.  It doesn't take a math genius like you to figure that out.  
If it was happening to you, you wouldn't be happy about it yet you are pleased that it has happened to the one's on here complaining about it.  Well since it hasn't happend to you, I will tell you it sucks.

A lot of people also forget that the 1st "Free BTC Bonus" which is added to rolls gets REMOVED every single hour if you do not play Multiply game or Buy lottery tickets.  If you go enough hours,  it will certainly remove your bonus and if you let it go to long,  you'll eventually be at the bottom which is sometimes close to 11 sats (depending on the price of BTC).  So to some it'll seem like it was cut in half due to a bug.  That is not the case.  What's happening is that your bonuses are being removed because you didnt use the site properly (a sign of bot usage).
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March 23, 2018, 09:36:42 PM
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That is all well and good, but I'm not a bot. 
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Decrease every hour = every Roll , same goal.

So you just net and lose half for 100000 reward points. Interesting.........

IDK what you mean by decrease every hour == decrease every roll since not every roll is a loss.  There is a cronjob that runs hourly that reduces everyone's "BTC Bonus" count.  If you dont have enough play to offset it,  you start going backwards and eventually you lose all free BTC bonuses.  To be clear,  the loss at the top of every hour is 0.29% of whatever you are currently at (this is not documented anywhere, but its easy to figure out on your own).  For example,  if you had 73.0941% achieved so far at 5:59pm,  at 6:01PM the site will refresh (yes, it literally refreshes on it's own,  that is the bonus cronjob doing its thing) and it will lower that to 72.8811% because %0.29 of 73.0941 == 0.213.  So 73.0941 - 0.213 == your new 72.8811% achieved value.  I figured this out by simply watching when it gets lowered and noting what it was lowered to.  From that its very easy to calculate how much it was lowered by.  So we now know that to offset it,  we must achieve at least 0.213% EVERY hour (0.213 * 24 will give you a daily drop).  Thats very easily achieved with the multiply game as well as buying tickets,  but I would never buy tickets because they dont give reward points.  Ever.  There is practically 0.1% chance that you'll ever win that crap lottery where as there is a 48.75% chance you'll win something in multiply game.  And you only need to win 5 times in order to gain the same amount you would if you bought tickets.  (20 / 5 == 4x).  I'll take the Multiply probability any day.

But otherwise, yes it is correct that I have a high negative multiply stat and that is very on purpose.  My actual Multiply LOSSES are extremely high.  But I dont care about those.  Since I have a super high loss rate,  I also have been very f'ing lucky at the same time.  So the reward points make up for when I am NOT lucky.  Also,  I gain free BTC bonus when I LOSE in multiply game (wins dont increase it,  only losses do).  It's sort of like a stoploss in trading.  You lose, but you dont break the bank.  If you dont keep tight stoplosses,  you are a TERRIBLE trader.  So if you're not doing everything humanly possible to get the reward points,  you're a terrible freebitco player Wink  Well thats how I see it anyway.  My method has been very good to me as you can see in the statistics I posted earlier.  It's kinda hard to argue against proven winning statistical facts Smiley


That is all well and good, but I'm not a bot.  

The probability that you are NOT using a bot is less than the probability that you are USING one.  Therefore I toss anyone complaining about it into the bot category.  Just like in trading,  I trade statistical probabilities.  I dont trade/believe what people say/think.  I guess thats what I get for majoring in statistics.  I think fundamentally different than everyone else.

If I had to guess,  I'd bet that some sort of new bot has been released that now has noobs clamoring to get into freebitco with the lure of free riches for doing absolutely nothing.  This is nothing new and has been around for as long as freebitco has been.  They get released,  later there is a rash of complaints,  the bots die,  the complaints go away.  A new one is released and the process is repeated.
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March 24, 2018, 02:22:53 AM
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Decrease every hour = every Roll , same goal.

So you just net and lose half for 100000 reward points. Interesting.........

IDK what you mean by decrease every hour == decrease every roll since not every roll is a loss.  There is a cronjob that runs hourly that reduces everyone's "BTC Bonus" count.  If you dont have enough play to offset it,  you start going backwards and eventually you lose all free BTC bonuses.  To be clear,  the loss at the top of every hour is 0.29% of whatever you are currently at (this is not documented anywhere, but its easy to figure out on your own).  For example,  if you had 73.0941% achieved so far at 5:59pm,  at 6:01PM the site will refresh (yes, it literally refreshes on it's own,  that is the bonus cronjob doing its thing) and it will lower that to 72.8811% because %0.29 of 73.0941 == 0.213.  So 73.0941 - 0.213 == your new 72.8811% achieved value.  I figured this out by simply watching when it gets lowered and noting what it was lowered to.  From that its very easy to calculate how much it was lowered by.  So we now know that to offset it,  we must achieve at least 0.213% EVERY hour (0.213 * 24 will give you a daily drop).  Thats very easily achieved with the multiply game as well as buying tickets,  but I would never buy tickets because they dont give reward points.  Ever.  There is practically 0.1% chance that you'll ever win that crap lottery where as there is a 48.75% chance you'll win something in multiply game.  And you only need to win 5 times in order to gain the same amount you would if you bought tickets.  (20 / 5 == 4x).  I'll take the Multiply probability any day.

But otherwise, yes it is correct that I have a high negative multiply stat and that is very on purpose.  My actual Multiply LOSSES are extremely high.  But I dont care about those.  Since I have a super high loss rate,  I also have been very f'ing lucky at the same time.  So the reward points make up for when I am NOT lucky.  Also,  I gain free BTC bonus when I LOSE in multiply game (wins dont increase it,  only losses do).  It's sort of like a stoploss in trading.  You lose, but you dont break the bank.  If you dont keep tight stoplosses,  you are a TERRIBLE trader.  So if you're not doing everything humanly possible to get the reward points,  you're a terrible freebitco player Wink  Well thats how I see it anyway.  My method has been very good to me as you can see in the statistics I posted earlier.  It's kinda hard to argue against proven winning statistical facts Smiley


That is all well and good, but I'm not a bot. 

The probability that you are NOT using a bot is less than the probability that you are USING one.  Therefore I toss anyone complaining about it into the bot category.  Just like in trading,  I trade statistical probabilities.  I dont trade/believe what people say/think.  I guess thats what I get for majoring in statistics.  I think fundamentally different than everyone else.

If I had to guess,  I'd bet that some sort of new bot has been released that now has noobs clamoring to get into freebitco with the lure of free riches for doing absolutely nothing.  This is nothing new and has been around for as long as freebitco has been.  They get released,  later there is a rash of complaints,  the bots die,  the complaints go away.  A new one is released and the process is repeated.

Your statistics looks amazing Shocked. May I know how much satoshi do you have to gamble to offset that hourly reduction, or more generally how much satoshi do you need to gamble to increase 1% toward the bouns?
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March 24, 2018, 05:58:14 AM
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Decrease every hour = every Roll , same goal.

So you just net and lose half for 100000 reward points. Interesting.........

IDK what you mean by decrease every hour == decrease every roll since not every roll is a loss.  There is a cronjob that runs hourly that reduces everyone's "BTC Bonus" count.  If you dont have enough play to offset it,  you start going backwards and eventually you lose all free BTC bonuses.  To be clear,  the loss at the top of every hour is 0.29% of whatever you are currently at (this is not documented anywhere, but its easy to figure out on your own).  For example,  if you had 73.0941% achieved so far at 5:59pm,  at 6:01PM the site will refresh (yes, it literally refreshes on it's own,  that is the bonus cronjob doing its thing) and it will lower that to 72.8811% because %0.29 of 73.0941 == 0.213.  So 73.0941 - 0.213 == your new 72.8811% achieved value.  I figured this out by simply watching when it gets lowered and noting what it was lowered to.  From that its very easy to calculate how much it was lowered by.  So we now know that to offset it,  we must achieve at least 0.213% EVERY hour (0.213 * 24 will give you a daily drop).  Thats very easily achieved with the multiply game as well as buying tickets,  but I would never buy tickets because they dont give reward points.  Ever.  There is practically 0.1% chance that you'll ever win that crap lottery where as there is a 48.75% chance you'll win something in multiply game.  And you only need to win 5 times in order to gain the same amount you would if you bought tickets.  (20 / 5 == 4x).  I'll take the Multiply probability any day.

But otherwise, yes it is correct that I have a high negative multiply stat and that is very on purpose.  My actual Multiply LOSSES are extremely high.  But I dont care about those.  Since I have a super high loss rate,  I also have been very f'ing lucky at the same time.  So the reward points make up for when I am NOT lucky.  Also,  I gain free BTC bonus when I LOSE in multiply game (wins dont increase it,  only losses do).  It's sort of like a stoploss in trading.  You lose, but you dont break the bank.  If you dont keep tight stoplosses,  you are a TERRIBLE trader.  So if you're not doing everything humanly possible to get the reward points,  you're a terrible freebitco player Wink  Well thats how I see it anyway.  My method has been very good to me as you can see in the statistics I posted earlier.  It's kinda hard to argue against proven winning statistical facts Smiley


That is all well and good, but I'm not a bot.  

The probability that you are NOT using a bot is less than the probability that you are USING one.  Therefore I toss anyone complaining about it into the bot category.  Just like in trading,  I trade statistical probabilities.  I dont trade/believe what people say/think.  I guess thats what I get for majoring in statistics.  I think fundamentally different than everyone else.

If I had to guess,  I'd bet that some sort of new bot has been released that now has noobs clamoring to get into freebitco with the lure of free riches for doing absolutely nothing.  This is nothing new and has been around for as long as freebitco has been.  They get released,  later there is a rash of complaints,  the bots die,  the complaints go away.  A new one is released and the process is repeated.

All I've done on the site is 1. Come by for the free hourly rolls.  2.  I've played around with the high low game, but have mainly stopped due to losing more than winning.  I'm in the hole by 84 sat.  I occaisionaly will play a few, but only using it manually as opposed to the automatic. 3.  I've deposited some money to take advantage of the interest option.  It pays better than my savings account.  4.  I one time on accident hit the wrong button when I was trting to buy reward points and I hit buy lottery tickets.  I had quite a few of them at the end of 24 hrs.  I personally think they are a waste of reward points and time.  If I win great, but the chance of winning isn't that great, so I won't make that mistake again.  5. Browser mining option is something else that I use.  I've made 4191 sat by using it.   
That is pretty much it when it comes to using this site.  I've been laid off from work, so I'm around a lot to make the hrly claim.  I'm up to 672705 satoshis in the two plus months of finding out about bitcoin faucets.  What about my above behavior makes me a bot?  If I was one, you would think I would be rolling in the dough.  Of course my sat level would be much higher since I've been at reduced payouts since March 15th.  Which really blows, because when the bitcoing price went down, there was an opportunity to build up the sat level much quicker, but I was stuck at 12 regardless of what the site was normally paying out.
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March 24, 2018, 01:32:59 PM
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Wow,  thats a TERRIBLE freeroll table.  Here is mine.  I already explained how I got it so high,  people seem to think it's some sort of joke though.  IDK,  whatever.  More for me I guess lol.

http://prntscr.com/ivh9yg

So many replies and noone cared you actually get 230sats minimum freeroll. WTf is that crap. We get 11 sats and you get 230 lol. Ofc you can lose trying to mutiply if your ass if ful. Now on serious note i would like to know how much you need to wager in multiply game to get x10 basic freeroll?
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March 24, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
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OK, my post here is about the halved base payout that a lot of users are experiencing, not the regular base payout and how to increase them and so on.

1. I'm a regular member just like you, and since wetsuit or Myfe who are the ones who have authority to address this issue are not responding I can only guess that it's done on purpose [the silence I mean].

2. I have posted earlier that this has happened before last year around the same time [March] and so I can only personally conclude that it's in their anti-abuse detection system.

3. It seems [and this is my personal opinion] just like the mystery of how much you have to deposit to make the captcha go away applies here. No, it's not more than double of your total winning. And I think it's not just about deposits, a combination of things also play a role, such as playing Multiply, buying lottery tickets, withdrawals etc. and maybe new accounts.

4. If you have contacted them and they have corrected this, I'm happy for you. But if you have contacted them and they have not, I'm afraid you will have to wait it out.

That is until they make an official announcement here.

Edit: Double of your total winning.

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March 24, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
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I'm not Bot. Please fix it.

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March 24, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
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A lot of people also forget that the 1st "Free BTC Bonus" which is added to rolls gets REMOVED every single hour if you do not play Multiply game or Buy lottery tickets.  If you go enough hours,  it will certainly remove your bonus and if you let it go to long,  you'll eventually be at the bottom which is sometimes close to 11 sats (depending on the price of BTC).  So to some it'll seem like it was cut in half due to a bug.  That is not the case.  What's happening is that your bonuses are being removed because you didnt use the site properly (a sign of bot usage).

No. What's happening is that our minimum payout has been halved with no apparent reason and no explanation.

https://i.imgur.com/FRMGojz.png

See that 0.00000011 BTC? It used to be 0.00000022 BTC two weeks ago, then one day out of the blue it has been halved. I'm not using bots, I don't have multiple accounts, etcetera, and yet I've been affected by the issue. So stop telling people it's their fault.
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March 24, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
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pls fix

id: 11636897 (50%)
id: 11697865 (around 10%)

thx in adv
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March 24, 2018, 11:08:56 PM
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My minimum payout also halved. I have withdrawn all my btc from freebitco.in and suddenly my minimum payout halved.
Just wanted to let you all know.
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March 24, 2018, 11:17:52 PM
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What if all this mess was from the summer time difference in their servers (plus a big difference with ip time for the users)? Ok i'm joking...
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March 24, 2018, 11:54:27 PM
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My minimum payout also halved. I have withdrawn all my btc from freebitco.in and suddenly my minimum payout halved.
Just wanted to let you all know.
Minimum payout? You mean free roll's prize?
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