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December 09, 2017, 08:25:07 AM |
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It is just bytes in a computer though.
It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.
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December 09, 2017, 08:46:30 AM Last edit: December 09, 2017, 09:14:09 AM by Bitfort |
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It is just bytes in a computer though.
It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.
True, but how do you think the current fiat is made? Used to be covered by gold, but not anymore. Your bank account is using the very same "bytes in a computer". The difference is banks can create as many fiat money as they can (with some small limitations of course) contrary BTC has given supply and fixed ceiling. EDIT, but this is off topic. Create special thread about and I'll gladly discuss this with you.
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December 09, 2017, 01:58:21 PM |
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It is just bytes in a computer though.
It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.
I'm missing the point of your argument or you don't undestand the abstract meaning of "value". Even the "faith in a God" is intangible but it holds so much value that affects the world in so many ways. For humans, being material is not a mandatory feature of a thing to hold value.
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December 09, 2017, 02:32:25 PM |
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I prefer "100 reward points(1200rp)"+ "%500 free BTC". It's much much better than %1000. (Even it's better than %1000+100rp). If you activate %1000 and roll 99xx, you'll lose some satoshis. If the base fbtc (non 99xx) is 14 satoshis, so with %1000 enabled it will pay 154. But 99xx will pay 140. The best way is using the 100rp bonus and %500 fbtc. 100 points costs 1200. %500 fbtc costs 1600. So you need 2800 rp every day.
If you roll 19 times (if you do it more than 20 times somehow believe me your account will be blocked soon). It will give you 102×19=1938 reward points . 2800-1938=862. So you need only 862 points everyday. If you have 100000 rp: 100000÷862~116 days.
If it pays even 10 satoshis per hour. With %500 enabled it will pay you 60 satoshis. If you roll 19 times a day , 19×60=1140. And it's for 116 days. 1140×116=132,240 satoshis. There will be plenty of times that you roll 99xx.(100 satoshis). There will be 5x,4x,3x and 2x weekend bonuses. So you'll do this for more than 116 days. So it's better to use my way.
Good calculation, gonna consider it. Thank you very much
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December 09, 2017, 04:21:01 PM |
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It is just bytes in a computer though.
It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.
Cash is just writings in paper though. But it has value. It's not made out of thin air, to obtain them you have to either pay a lot of money or mine them with powerful hardware and expensive electricity. That's not "based on nothing". And I think we should stop arguing with this guy. He is just trolling us.
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Bitcoin Dragon
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December 09, 2017, 09:02:05 PM |
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Some of the responses here are entertaining and clearly delusional. And hey the delusional/mania stage is the final stage of all bubbles too don't forget 
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December 09, 2017, 10:06:12 PM |
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Hello! I have a question about how the referrals work. When it says you get "50% of the base prize" for the free BTC rolls, does that mean 50% of the value of the roll when excluding any bonuses, or 50% of the minimum possible value?
In other words, if I refer someone and they roll a 10000, how much do I get as my commission?
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December 10, 2017, 12:16:08 AM |
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Hello! I have a question about how the referrals work. When it says you get "50% of the base prize" for the free BTC rolls, does that mean 50% of the value of the roll when excluding any bonuses, or 50% of the minimum possible value?
In other words, if I refer someone and they roll a 10000, how much do I get as my commission?
Site says "50% of base prize ", that is as if he had rolled between 0 and 9885.
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December 10, 2017, 12:34:57 AM |
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Hello! I have a question about how the referrals work. When it says you get "50% of the base prize" for the free BTC rolls, does that mean 50% of the value of the roll when excluding any bonuses, or 50% of the minimum possible value?
In other words, if I refer someone and they roll a 10000, how much do I get as my commission?
Site says "50% of base prize ", that is as if he had rolled between 0 and 9885. Are you sure about that? Because in past I remember seeing that I got commission from prizes above 9885 roll (I noticed that my account ballance increased by something like 10000 satoshi without doing any activity, so it should be from referral claim). So, I suppose that if my referral claim $200 in Bitcoins, I would get $100 as commission. And I'm sure that activated bonuses doesn't applies for referral commission.
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December 10, 2017, 01:52:39 AM Last edit: December 10, 2017, 02:27:37 AM by hroub |
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Oohh nice math Mr. Intelligent. I'm sorry to tell you that 1000% of 12 satoshi is 120, not 180. So yeah, learn some math  and if you let me make a subjective comment, I think that you are much more arrogant and aggressive than my first comment. Are you butthurt because you use the BTC Bonus option? "Assuming that current minimum roll is 20 satoshi" is simply lying or not knowing current prizes. Stop trying to discuss things that you obviously didn't look up. Hey at keast I tried to do soe math... at 4AM on a Friday nigh!  What did u do? 12 satoshi??? Seriously??? Am I the only one that:  I still think making "By Far" claims without any proof or theory whatsoever, makes you an arrogant know-it-all wanna be. You can prove me wrong by doing the math for once! 
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December 10, 2017, 03:36:15 AM |
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^^ Hey dude, as I said before, you have BTC bonus. It clearly says 266 satoshis added.(you see no more captchas just because of this, when this bonus ends captchas will comeback)
Do the calculation without this bonus. And again as I calculated before,%500 is better than %1000. Just look at the second level prize. It's less than the first one, so if you roll that numbers you'll lose. Btw it's not 12 satoshis for now because of the BTC price . It's 14 satoshis.
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December 10, 2017, 03:42:54 AM |
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Hello! I have a question about how the referrals work. When it says you get "50% of the base prize" for the free BTC rolls, does that mean 50% of the value of the roll when excluding any bonuses, or 50% of the minimum possible value?
In other words, if I refer someone and they roll a 10000, how much do I get as my commission?
Site says "50% of base prize ", that is as if he had rolled between 0 and 9885. It will pay you %50 of the base prizes . Bonuses are not included. And yes, if he rolled 10000 , you'll get %50 of it.
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Bitcoin Dragon
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December 10, 2017, 06:05:29 AM |
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Back up to 15 satoshis. Must've been a lot of people rage quit. Less actives as of late.
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December 10, 2017, 06:17:57 AM |
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Back up to 15 satoshis. Must've been a lot of people rage quit. Less actives as of late.
This means BTC price is coming down. This is not a good news for BTC holders. I wish it goes down to 10 satoshis.
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December 10, 2017, 12:05:57 PM |
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Back up to 15 satoshis. Must've been a lot of people rage quit. Less actives as of late.
This means BTC price is coming down. This is not a good news for BTC holders. I wish it goes down to 10 satoshis. Don't worry its matter of just few days we are going to be in single digit because in coming days we have bitcoin again on his peak and touching new highs for this great community good luck 
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December 10, 2017, 02:25:20 PM |
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Hello! I have a question about how the referrals work. When it says you get "50% of the base prize" for the free BTC rolls, does that mean 50% of the value of the roll when excluding any bonuses, or 50% of the minimum possible value?
In other words, if I refer someone and they roll a 10000, how much do I get as my commission?
Site says "50% of base prize ", that is as if he had rolled between 0 and 9885. Are you sure about that? Because in past I remember seeing that I got commission from prizes above 9885 roll (I noticed that my account ballance increased by something like 10000 satoshi without doing any activity, so it should be from referral claim). So, I suppose that if my referral claim $200 in Bitcoins, I would get $100 as commission. And I'm sure that activated bonuses doesn't applies for referral commission. It will pay you %50 of the base prizes . Bonuses are not included. And yes, if he rolled 10000 , you'll get %50 of it.
So, 2 votes to 1 says I'd get $100 of BTC. In that case I'll work under that assumption.
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December 10, 2017, 06:39:25 PM |
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It will pay you %50 of the base prizes . Bonuses are not included. And yes, if he rolled 10000 , you'll get %50 of it. Well if it's that way, I'm glad! I remembered someone said otherwise, but I hope he was wrong 
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December 10, 2017, 06:45:34 PM |
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I didn't even know one could activate more than one bonus at the same time  I usually did the +100RP until I reached 4400 RP then the 1000% and then back at the +100RP and so on.
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December 10, 2017, 07:52:47 PM |
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Oohh nice math Mr. Intelligent. I'm sorry to tell you that 1000% of 12 satoshi is 120, not 180. So yeah, learn some math  and if you let me make a subjective comment, I think that you are much more arrogant and aggressive than my first comment. Are you butthurt because you use the BTC Bonus option? "Assuming that current minimum roll is 20 satoshi" is simply lying or not knowing current prizes. Stop trying to discuss things that you obviously didn't look up. Hey at keast I tried to do soe math... at 4AM on a Friday nigh!  What did u do? 12 satoshi??? Seriously??? Am I the only one that: https://i.imgur.com/EdoA2jp.pngI still think making "By Far" claims without any proof or theory whatsoever, makes you an arrogant know-it-all wanna be. You can prove me wrong by doing the math for once!  That's a gambling bonus... Omg this guy is extremely stupid. I'll just let you speak to yourself. I think my IQ lowered because of this conversation
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December 12, 2017, 01:46:31 AM Last edit: December 12, 2017, 01:59:36 AM by hroub |
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^^ Hey dude, as I said before, you have BTC bonus. It clearly says 266 satoshis added.(you see no more captchas just because of this, when this bonus ends captchas will comeback)
Do the calculation without this bonus. And again as I calculated before,%500 is better than %1000. Just look at the second level prize. It's less than the first one, so if you roll that numbers you'll lose. Btw it's not 12 satoshis for now because of the BTC price . It's 14 satoshis.
Yup! ur right! I've been busy with final exams, but here are some numbers I crunched real quick, when the min free roll used to be 14 sat and 266 bonus. (154 = 14 + 1000% bonus, 280 = 14 + 266 bonus, 420 = 154 + 266, 24, 23, 19 are number of rolls per day): T = 24 x 31.25 x 0.00000154 = 0.001155 T = 24 x 31.25 x 0.00000014 + 0.00100000 = 0.001105 T = 24 x 31.25 x 0.00000420 = 0.00315 T = 24 x 31.25 x 0.00000280 + 0.00100000 = 0.0031 T = 23 x 31.25 x 0.00000154 = 0.001106875 T = 23 x 31.25 x 0.00000014 + 0.00100000 = 0.001100625 T = 23 x 31.25 x 0.00000420 = 0.00301875 T = 23 x 31.25 x 0.00000280 + 0.00100000 = 0.0030125 T = 19 x 31.25 x 0.00000154 = 0.000914375 T = 19 x 31.25 x 0.00000014 + 0.00100000 = 0.001083125 T = 19 x 31.25 x 0.00000420 = 0.00249375 T = 19 x 31.25 x 0.00000280 + 0.00100000 = 0.0026625 It actually seems that even when sleeping less than 6 hours a day u make a little less (not by far)  for some reason... weird...  What makes you say this bonus will end? No one else has it? Could it have to do with the fact that I've had my account since November 2013? Or that I multiply lots of BTC?
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