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 Author Topic: FreeBitco.in-\$200 FreeBTC🏎Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆\$32,500 Wager Contest  (Read 398496 times)
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 April 27, 2018, 07:00:49 PM

What you are saying is absolutly true. Every roll is an independent event, so the chance to roll a 10000 is always the same. The statistical average can be calculated easy:
You multiply every reward with it's probability and sum them up. You have to note for this that the 0 and the 10000 have only half the probability as all other numbers. (That was discussed multiple times before and is true!) By doing this you basically assume that in 20000 rolls you will roll one time the 0 and the 10000 and two times all other numbers. Of course you can roll 20000 without rolling the 10000 once, but you can also roll the 10000 one, two three ... times in the 20000 rolls. By calculating the average you calculate these fluctuations out. If you roll infinite times you will hit exactly the average and if you roll like 2000000 times, you will get close to it.

The problem with this statement is that your expected value depends on the number of events you count to get it. Change that number and your expected value will change as well. In other words, you have as many different expected values (or average as you call them) as the number of events you count in your series.

By the way it is not clear to me why 0 and 10k should have only half of the probability in respect of all the other numbers.
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 April 27, 2018, 07:23:56 PM

What you are saying is absolutly true. Every roll is an independent event, so the chance to roll a 10000 is always the same. The statistical average can be calculated easy:
You multiply every reward with it's probability and sum them up. You have to note for this that the 0 and the 10000 have only half the probability as all other numbers. (That was discussed multiple times before and is true!) By doing this you basically assume that in 20000 rolls you will roll one time the 0 and the 10000 and two times all other numbers. Of course you can roll 20000 without rolling the 10000 once, but you can also roll the 10000 one, two three ... times in the 20000 rolls. By calculating the average you calculate these fluctuations out. If you roll infinite times you will hit exactly the average and if you roll like 2000000 times, you will get close to it.

The problem with this statement is that your expected value depends on the number of events you count to get it. Change that number and your expected value will change as well. In other words, you have as many different expected values (or average as you call them) as the number of events you count in your series.

By the way it is not clear to me why 0 and 10k should have only half of the probability in respect of all the other numbers.

The thing with the half probability is easy: They generate a number from 0 to 4,294,967,296 and then divide it by 429,496.7296 resulting in a number from 0 to 10,000 which is then rounded giving the rolled number. All numbers from 0 to 0.4999999... will be rounded down to 0 resulting in a rolled 0. All numbers from 9,999.5 to 10,000 will be rounded up and result in a rolled 10,000. If I now look for example at the 5,000, it is being rolled either if a number from 4,999.5 to 5,000 is rounded up or if a number from 5,000 to 5,000.499999... is rounded down. In other words a 0 can only be resched by rounding down and a 10,000 only by rounding up while every other number can be reached either by rounding up or down. Therefore the 0 and the 10,000 are only half as probable as all other numbers.

To the average: There is only ONE AVERAGE. Of course if you roll, there is always a probability not hitting average, but the more often you roll the more close your average claim amount gets to the global average. To demonstrate the calculation of the global average lets assume all numbers were equally probabale because that easies the calculations. Because of this I assume all numbers would be rolled exactly once to make all numbers appear exactly with the same probability as proposed. Then I sum up all rewards I would get by rolling each number once and divide by 10,001, because I summed up the rewards of 10,001 numbers.

If this is still unclear, please read some literature about stochastics, because I don't think I can explain this very well in this thread, but I am 100% sure that my calculations are correct.
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 April 28, 2018, 03:45:11 AM

Ignoring for a moment that you are definitely not giving free money, you have ads and a pretty rigged dice game, you expect people to just believe in your "stats"? Keep that hubris in check btw, that thing takes entire empires down.

There are no adverts and the dice game is provably fair. The free rolls are free to play and you are guaranteed to get a reward so it definitely is giving free money.

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 April 28, 2018, 04:02:12 AM

Ignoring for a moment that you are definitely not giving free money, you have ads and a pretty rigged dice game, you expect people to just believe in your "stats"? Keep that hubris in check btw, that thing takes entire empires down.

There are no adverts and the dice game is provably fair. The free rolls are free to play and you are guaranteed to get a reward so it definitely is giving free money.

I stand corrected, my mistake, confused this with another thread, post deleted.
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 April 28, 2018, 04:22:09 AM

I stand corrected, my mistake, confused this with another thread, post deleted.

No problem, I'm always happy to clarify that anyway.

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 April 28, 2018, 09:06:23 AM

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3x reward points (RP) promotion currently running and ends in 38:53:59 (6 RP/free roll, 3 RP/referral free roll, 3 RP/multiply roll).
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 April 28, 2018, 11:20:20 AM

dear administrators, what happened, I have problems with paying bounty to the company, wrote a telegram to them and they blamed me for it
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 April 28, 2018, 09:03:08 PM

What is going on with freebitcoin? For a month or so just problems ... with what it costs to get points when I already have them or can not roll, last week did not let me activate the reward of points and now ... I ban my ip seriously This page is becoming scam, if it continues like this, you will have one less user and all my group of referrals will take me with me ... it has been fine while it lasted but It is already becoming a sacrifice for all.
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 April 28, 2018, 09:07:30 PM

My IP address has been blocked from playing the FREE PLAY game in freebitco.in and freedoge.co.in

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 April 28, 2018, 09:32:19 PM

I've registered just to say goodbye to freebitco, I've blocked the ip and several times, I unlocked it, I blocked it again .... and is well man, and do not come with me that gives free claims because I have left x1000 times more in the multiply .... come on man !!!
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 April 28, 2018, 09:34:56 PM

My IP address has been blocked from freebitco.in
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 April 28, 2018, 09:59:52 PM

My IP address has been blocked too:(
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 April 29, 2018, 05:28:27 AM

Are you guys all using the same IP address?

We only block IP addresses when they are abused by multiple accounts. Some ISPs use shared IP addresses or reallocate dynamic IP addresses. Try rebooting your router and if that doesn't help PM me your IP address as well as your user ID and I'll ask wetsuit to take a look and see why it was banned.

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 April 29, 2018, 07:14:22 AM

Disable reward points, blocked ip and accounts. What next?? Will you disable free roll??
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 April 29, 2018, 07:32:02 AM

Disable reward points, blocked ip and accounts. What next?? Will you disable free roll??
Goodbye freebitco.in

IP addresses are usually banned because they have been abused. Are you using multiple accounts or a bot?

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 April 29, 2018, 08:22:09 AM

My IP address has been blocked too:(
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try to bet and lose you money, then they will unblock your account. this is only way
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 April 29, 2018, 08:32:58 AM

My IP address has been blocked too:(
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try to bet and lose you money, then they will unblock your account. this is only way
very funny)) again showed their greed, blocked the accounts and the type of real users
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 April 29, 2018, 08:34:31 AM

very funny)) again showed their greed, blocked the accounts and the type of real users

How do you know it is a real user? You're pretty full of yourself, but you're petty small time botter compared to what we deal with every day.

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 April 29, 2018, 08:53:55 AM

very funny)) again showed their greed, blocked the accounts and the type of real users

How do you know it is a real user? You're pretty full of yourself, but you're petty small time botter compared to what we deal with every day.

can you tell the bots from real?
I understand you perfectly, but real users suffer from your mistakes. in another topic I wrote that you did a good job - I was wrong, people have problems because of the innovations that do not work properly. screenshot of errors in the browser  https://prnt.sc/jbiyb2
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can you tell the bots from real?
I understand you perfectly, but real users suffer from your mistakes. in another topic I wrote that you did a good job - I was wrong, people have problems because of the innovations that do not work properly. screenshot of errors in the browser  https://prnt.sc/jbiyb2

He restricted the use of RP to make it unprofitable to bot. Innocent parties were also affected by that and we had so many complaints he decided to find another way of dealing with it. I haven't heard from him yet as he is away and busy with something else right now so I can only guess what is happening. But my guess would be he has come up with some way of determining what is a bot and has then banned them. Again some innocent people may have been incorrectly identified as bots. I've asked people complaining here to PM their User ID AND IP address so I can pass on to wetsuit to double check. Interestingly only one person has done that so far and that isn't even someone who has posted in the threads.
This collateral damage is regrettable but the blame for it can only be put upon the bot users.

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