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March 27, 2018, 12:20:25 PM
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Myfe will no longer be handling the forum support for freebitco.in. TheQuin will be the new support manager so please direct your questions/comments at him.

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.

Finaly a response, now i can deposit again knowing everything is "all right".
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March 27, 2018, 12:48:45 PM
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This answer does not help me very much. I try to collect some Satoshis, dont want to waste them in a raffle. I am never lucky with raffles so i dont use them.


This seems very odd to me. A user that Claims regularly from your faucet is suspicious for you?

It is not at all suspicious but reducing the base reward is necessary to keep the site profitable and the faucet available for all. The faucet is funded by the house edge of the Hi-Lo game and those that buy lottery tickets so it is fair that they continue to receive higher rewards. If you don't want to gamble then you can also deposit and keep a larger balance and you will also get higher rewards and receive interest payments as well.


This algorithm apparently affects users who are not bots. I am one of them.

I'm not Bot. Please fix it.

USER ID 3716870

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It isn't broken, that is how it is supposed to work.

well, then its simply flawed...,
better take it off and implement two or three differente captchas for the free roll page.
i bet that would be a preferably solution for everyone.


currently my base prize goes up and down all the time (down again now) and on my end nothing changed in the past two weeks, still rolling normally (randomly, without a method, no reward or bonus) and tossing it all in multiply...
so no loss for freebitco...

now about the past,
since i work at night, i rolled for myself on my pc and for my mother on her smartphone and vice-versa..., we tried to keepup 24h with 100 rewards and 500% btc bonus..., and still, its not that great.
how could it be different? you buy 100 rewards active during 24h for 1200 rewards, this forces you to roll 12h just to pay for itself..., get the picture?
anyways, not bot...

btw, im unaware of any bot that can actually solve recaptchas (not talking about those slow indian services..., watch youtube for it, LOL)
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March 27, 2018, 01:00:34 PM
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well, then its simply flawed...,
better take it off and implement two or three differente captchas for the free roll page.
i bet that would be a preferably solution for everyone.

They adapt to any changes we make in a couple of days. Adding extra captchas would only buy us that and also frustrate genuine users.

currently my base prize goes up and down all the time (down again now) and on my end nothing changed

If you mean it jumping from half to full then this indicates your account usage is hovering around the level required to receive full base reward. If you mean it fluctuates by 1 or 2 sats then that is simply the USD to BTC exchange rate.

btw, im unaware of any bot that can actually solve recaptchas (not talking about those slow indian services..., watch youtube for it, LOL)

I'm not qualified to answer that but when wetsuit says there are botnets trying to bleed us dry and they adapt to everything he does to stop them, I believe him.

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March 27, 2018, 01:39:21 PM
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well, then its simply flawed...,
better take it off and implement two or three differente captchas for the free roll page.
i bet that would be a preferably solution for everyone.

They adapt to any changes we make in a couple of days. Adding extra captchas would only buy us that and also frustrate genuine users.

currently my base prize goes up and down all the time (down again now) and on my end nothing changed

If you mean it jumping from half to full then this indicates your account usage is hovering around the level required to receive full base reward. If you mean it fluctuates by 1 or 2 sats then that is simply the USD to BTC exchange rate.

btw, im unaware of any bot that can actually solve recaptchas (not talking about those slow indian services..., watch youtube for it, LOL)

I'm not qualified to answer that but when wetsuit says there are botnets trying to bleed us dry and they adapt to everything he does to stop them, I believe him.

well,

my mother and i, we are legit users, we follow the supreme two rules: dont create multiple accounts and dont use bots.
we are frustrated by this solution, she already mostly lost interest and i losing it too, that last deposit i made most likely will be the last... tossing it in multiply.

about my account been jumping up and down 10%,
it doesnt make sense, since my mothers account (50% off standing) and mine had the same usage, except for deposits and withdraw.
so, the impression i have, she is been punished for not depositing and only withdrawing, that btw, her withdraws ended up in my account anyway for better betting capital in multiply...
i, less punished because i never withdraw but made only small deposits..., so, still eligible for some small punishment.

i not doubting about botnets, sure they are out there, but what im saying, this solution right now, at the state it is, is not working, its creating colateral damage (soon your stats will tell).
take it back to the drawing board, test it extensively before re-implementing, in the mean time, use multiple captchas type...
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March 27, 2018, 01:48:46 PM
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my mother and i, we are legit users, we follow the supreme two rules: dont create multiple accounts and dont use bots.

We're not saying you aren't legitimate users.

It is not at all suspicious but reducing the base reward is necessary to keep the site profitable and the faucet available for all. The faucet is funded by the house edge of the Hi-Lo game and those that buy lottery tickets so it is fair that they continue to receive higher rewards. If you don't want to gamble then you can also deposit and keep a larger balance and you will also get higher rewards and receive interest payments as well.

i not doubting about botnets, sure they are out there, but what im saying, this solution right now, at the state it is, is not working, its creating colateral damage (soon your stats will tell).
take it back to the drawing board, test it extensively before re-implementing, in the mean time, use multiple captchas type...

Reducing the base payouts on freedoge.co.in has successfully transformed it to making a profit and we are now extending the approach to Freebitco.in, only this time the reduction is not for all. We do of course monitor our stats and most importantly our PnL line.


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March 27, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
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Finally we got explanation. I wish i could get hands on bots that can solve captcha lol. It sucks for so many of us that do it manually. Maybe ill win lottery before i give up  Grin 

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March 27, 2018, 03:10:33 PM
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Myfe will no longer be handling the forum support for freebitco.in. TheQuin will be the new support manager so please direct your questions/comments at him.

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.
Hey there wetsuit! You haven't posted here in a while haha. Love the site.
We've been talking about an unofficial app for FreeBitco.in and FreeDoge.co.in in the play store. It says it has notifications and other features and it seems that the reason they made it is so they can get referrals (when you open the app you go to a referral link to Freebitco.in). I haven't used it though, because it may be logging usernames and passwords to scam them all at once some day.
What do you think about the apps? It may be a threat to the stability of the site, as if they scammed their users, many people would be mad at you (it has 50k downloads!). Maybe we should increase the security over changing withdrawal addresses, as now you only need a password. I suggest a pin code which is not used to log in, so the app couldn't steal any balances.

Maybe you don't have time to answer to this, so i direct this message to TheQuin
Long live the best Bitcoin faucet <3

Edit: the publisher of the apps is MakeMoneyDigital, in case you wanted to search them

You have spotted the problem with using unofficial apps. We highly recommend that you do not use any apps as they could well be untrustworthy.

Please enable 2FA and that will require the authentication code to allow change of withdrawal address. This is superior to using a pin code as that could also be harvested by an app.


Thanks for the reply. I won't use the apps.
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March 27, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
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Myfe will no longer be handling the forum support for freebitco.in. TheQuin will be the new support manager so please direct your questions/comments at him.

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.
Hey there wetsuit! You haven't posted here in a while haha. Love the site.
We've been talking about an unofficial app for FreeBitco.in and FreeDoge.co.in in the play store. It says it has notifications and other features and it seems that the reason they made it is so they can get referrals (when you open the app you go to a referral link to Freebitco.in). I haven't used it though, because it may be logging usernames and passwords to scam them all at once some day.
What do you think about the apps? It may be a threat to the stability of the site, as if they scammed their users, many people would be mad at you (it has 50k downloads!). Maybe we should increase the security over changing withdrawal addresses, as now you only need a password. I suggest a pin code which is not used to log in, so the app couldn't steal any balances.

Maybe you don't have time to answer to this, so i direct this message to TheQuin
Long live the best Bitcoin faucet <3

Edit: the publisher of the apps is MakeMoneyDigital, in case you wanted to search them

You have spotted the problem with using unofficial apps. We highly recommend that you do not use any apps as they could well be untrustworthy.

Please enable 2FA and that will require the authentication code to allow change of withdrawal address. This is superior to using a pin code as that could also be harvested by an app.


Thanks for the reply. I won't use the apps.

Changing withdrawal address also requires email confirmation which is much better than a pin code.


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I have made some further improvements to the algorithm so it should be better for some (not all) users who were previously experiencing lower rewards.

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March 27, 2018, 03:53:12 PM
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Myfe will no longer be handling the forum support for freebitco.in. TheQuin will be the new support manager so please direct your questions/comments at him.

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.
Hey there wetsuit! You haven't posted here in a while haha. Love the site.
We've been talking about an unofficial app for FreeBitco.in and FreeDoge.co.in in the play store. It says it has notifications and other features and it seems that the reason they made it is so they can get referrals (when you open the app you go to a referral link to Freebitco.in). I haven't used it though, because it may be logging usernames and passwords to scam them all at once some day.
What do you think about the apps? It may be a threat to the stability of the site, as if they scammed their users, many people would be mad at you (it has 50k downloads!). Maybe we should increase the security over changing withdrawal addresses, as now you only need a password. I suggest a pin code which is not used to log in, so the app couldn't steal any balances.

Maybe you don't have time to answer to this, so i direct this message to TheQuin
Long live the best Bitcoin faucet <3

Edit: the publisher of the apps is MakeMoneyDigital, in case you wanted to search them

You have spotted the problem with using unofficial apps. We highly recommend that you do not use any apps as they could well be untrustworthy.

Please enable 2FA and that will require the authentication code to allow change of withdrawal address. This is superior to using a pin code as that could also be harvested by an app.


Thanks for the reply. I won't use the apps.

Changing withdrawal address also requires email confirmation which is much better than a pin code.


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I have made some further improvements to the algorithm so it should be better for some (not all) users who were previously experiencing lower rewards.

I hope, the new algorithm prevents only bots not normal users.

this is my stats and i am still solving captcha and my base reward about 12 satoshis. my user id: 9885009

https://ibb.co/gDRVKc
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March 27, 2018, 04:03:27 PM
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I am back at 25 sat now. Dont know why but thank you.
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March 27, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
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I am back at 25 sat now. Dont know why but thank you.

Maybe try reading back 2 posts  Wink

I have made some further improvements to the algorithm so it should be better for some (not all) users who were previously experiencing lower rewards.

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March 27, 2018, 04:31:44 PM
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Myfe will no longer be handling the forum support for freebitco.in. TheQuin will be the new support manager so please direct your questions/comments at him.

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.
Hey there wetsuit! You haven't posted here in a while haha. Love the site.
We've been talking about an unofficial app for FreeBitco.in and FreeDoge.co.in in the play store. It says it has notifications and other features and it seems that the reason they made it is so they can get referrals (when you open the app you go to a referral link to Freebitco.in). I haven't used it though, because it may be logging usernames and passwords to scam them all at once some day.
What do you think about the apps? It may be a threat to the stability of the site, as if they scammed their users, many people would be mad at you (it has 50k downloads!). Maybe we should increase the security over changing withdrawal addresses, as now you only need a password. I suggest a pin code which is not used to log in, so the app couldn't steal any balances.

Maybe you don't have time to answer to this, so i direct this message to TheQuin
Long live the best Bitcoin faucet <3

Edit: the publisher of the apps is MakeMoneyDigital, in case you wanted to search them

You have spotted the problem with using unofficial apps. We highly recommend that you do not use any apps as they could well be untrustworthy.

Please enable 2FA and that will require the authentication code to allow change of withdrawal address. This is superior to using a pin code as that could also be harvested by an app.


Thanks for the reply. I won't use the apps.

Changing withdrawal address also requires email confirmation which is much better than a pin code.


-------------------------------------------

I have made some further improvements to the algorithm so it should be better for some (not all) users who were previously experiencing lower rewards.
thanks wetsuit,

whatever you tweaked, seems to be working, for now, my mothers account and mine are back to 25sat.
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March 27, 2018, 04:36:34 PM
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As wetsuit explained above.

So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.

I can tell you that your gambling, buying lottery tickets and deposit history is taken into account.


So, if I'm not able to do a deposit. gambling and buying tickets will help to fix this? I just want to be sure that I get it right.
Thanks.
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March 27, 2018, 04:58:42 PM
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As wetsuit explained above.

So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.

I can tell you that your gambling, buying lottery tickets and deposit history is taken into account.


So, if I'm not able to do a deposit. gambling and buying tickets will help to fix this? I just want to be sure that I get it right.
Thanks.

Yes, spot on. I can't tell you what the threshold is for playing Hi-Lo and/or buying lottery tickets because I don't know, but if you play/buy enough you'll find it.

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March 27, 2018, 05:13:59 PM
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Myfe will no longer be handling the forum support for freebitco.in. TheQuin will be the new support manager so please direct your questions/comments at him.

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.
Hey there wetsuit! You haven't posted here in a while haha. Love the site.
We've been talking about an unofficial app for FreeBitco.in and FreeDoge.co.in in the play store. It says it has notifications and other features and it seems that the reason they made it is so they can get referrals (when you open the app you go to a referral link to Freebitco.in). I haven't used it though, because it may be logging usernames and passwords to scam them all at once some day.
What do you think about the apps? It may be a threat to the stability of the site, as if they scammed their users, many people would be mad at you (it has 50k downloads!). Maybe we should increase the security over changing withdrawal addresses, as now you only need a password. I suggest a pin code which is not used to log in, so the app couldn't steal any balances.

Maybe you don't have time to answer to this, so i direct this message to TheQuin
Long live the best Bitcoin faucet <3

Edit: the publisher of the apps is MakeMoneyDigital, in case you wanted to search them

You have spotted the problem with using unofficial apps. We highly recommend that you do not use any apps as they could well be untrustworthy.

Please enable 2FA and that will require the authentication code to allow change of withdrawal address. This is superior to using a pin code as that could also be harvested by an app.



Well, bummer. Until now I didn't know the app wasn't official. I have now removed it, changed password and enabled 2FA. Perhaps a HUGE warning on the official site is in order since many, many users are using the app? My minimum payout is still halved though. Any chance it can be restored to normal? ID 12114971. If not I may consider opening a new account. Which sucks, because I'd lose the few refs I have.
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March 27, 2018, 05:22:39 PM
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Please fix mine too

I'm at 12

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March 27, 2018, 05:25:21 PM
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Well, bummer. Until now I didn't know the app wasn't official. I have now removed it, changed password and enabled 2FA. Perhaps a HUGE warning on the official site is in order since many, many users are using the app?

I would hope it would be obvious that any official app would be advertised and linked to from the site.

My minimum payout is still halved though. Any chance it can be restored to normal? ID 12114971. If not I may consider opening a new account. Which sucks, because I'd lose the few refs I have.

Have a quick read back to my previous answers and you'll see what you need to do to get back to full rewards. I don't see that opening a new account will help.

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March 27, 2018, 05:53:34 PM
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Well, bummer. Until now I didn't know the app wasn't official. I have now removed it, changed password and enabled 2FA. Perhaps a HUGE warning on the official site is in order since many, many users are using the app?

I would hope it would be obvious that any official app would be advertised and linked to from the site.

My minimum payout is still halved though. Any chance it can be restored to normal? ID 12114971. If not I may consider opening a new account. Which sucks, because I'd lose the few refs I have.

Have a quick read back to my previous answers and you'll see what you need to do to get back to full rewards. I don't see that opening a new account will help.


Thanks. Still, not sure why that app is still around on the play store, I will certainly report it as scam.
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March 27, 2018, 07:29:55 PM
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thanks im using this faucet now a few month and its allways working and great addons with lottery and rewards !
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March 27, 2018, 07:46:47 PM
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TheQuin hi. i want to ask about captcha. i dont want to solve any more captcha. i want to roll without solving captcha. i want to overcome this problem only by depositing. What should be the minimum amount of deposit to roll without captcha. i deposited more than 500.000 satıshis but i still solve captcha. thanks
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