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September 03, 2018, 12:04:58 AM
Last edit: September 03, 2018, 12:31:41 AM by jackg
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Wow! Wagering really increases reward points quite a bit, I made a total wager of ~0.1BTC (I was down but about 0.01BTC at one point but managed to get myself back up)... Anyway, I now have 60000 reward points from that one session, and 19K lottery tickets so maybe it was worthwhile...

Quite fun when you get the lottery tickets and reward points, when I came here in 2015 with my 0.003BTC to gamble, it wasn't as good without them so I didn't really use this site - and actually that session only lost me 0.001BTC.

Edit: made myself a neat 0.0003BTC profit Grin.

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September 03, 2018, 08:16:20 AM
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Wow! Wagering really increases reward points quite a bit, I made a total wager of ~0.1BTC (I was down but about 0.01BTC at one point but managed to get myself back up)... Anyway, I now have 60000 reward points from that one session, and 19K lottery tickets so maybe it was worthwhile...

Quite fun when you get the lottery tickets and reward points, when I came here in 2015 with my 0.003BTC to gamble, it wasn't as good without them so I didn't really use this site - and actually that session only lost me 0.001BTC.

Edit: made myself a neat 0.0003BTC profit Grin.

Well done. Those Reward Points do add up quickly especially on the bigger weekend bonuses. It was nice to see the lottery dominated by tickets gained from large wagering this week as well.

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September 04, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
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To tell the truth I didn't fully understand how exactly you excluded bots from the lottery

I'd love to tell you what we're doing but the botters read this so I won't. A couple of very well informed people contacted me with a lot of insight. I passed that on to wetsuit, along with some ideas of how to use that information and then we come up with some measures to detect them. He does all the really hard work of programming it all up.

I think the lottery is doing really good this week, tickets down to a projected 310 million last time I calculated it. The botters haven't given up as you will see from the new signups on our stats page. But I can say that the vast majority of them are getting 0 Satoshi from us  Wink


That's really nice to hear. I wish I could help you like those very well informed people you've mentioned, but unfortunately I'm far from being that good in coding.

Now I'm determined to buy 500-1,000 tickets each lottery round. I've noticed that almost in every round someone with less than 1,000 tickets wins something. For example in the very last round someone with just 194 tickets won 0.11548829 BTC. I won nothing with my 500 tickets but I understand that the win chance was extremely small. Let's see what happens with 1k tickets. Smiley

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September 04, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
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To tell the truth I didn't fully understand how exactly you excluded bots from the lottery

I'd love to tell you what we're doing but the botters read this so I won't. A couple of very well informed people contacted me with a lot of insight. I passed that on to wetsuit, along with some ideas of how to use that information and then we come up with some measures to detect them. He does all the really hard work of programming it all up.

I think the lottery is doing really good this week, tickets down to a projected 310 million last time I calculated it. The botters haven't given up as you will see from the new signups on our stats page. But I can say that the vast majority of them are getting 0 Satoshi from us  Wink


That's really nice to hear. I wish I could help you like those very well informed people you've mentioned, but unfortunately I'm far from being that good in coding.

Now I'm determined to buy 500-1,000 tickets each lottery round. I've noticed that almost in every round someone with less than 1,000 tickets wins something. For example in the very last round someone with just 194 tickets won 0.11548829 BTC. I won nothing with my 500 tickets but I understand that the win chance was extremely small. Let's see what happens with 1k tickets. Smiley

I had over 2800 tickets last week still nothing. I'm almost buying a few hundred tickets every week from the beginning but until now no luck yet. Since there are so many people participating in the lottery so winning chances are very slim so just try our luck every week with a small amount. After all those improvements last week number tickers sold was quite less.
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September 05, 2018, 09:26:00 AM
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I had over 2800 tickets last week still nothing. I'm almost buying a few hundred tickets every week from the beginning but until now no luck yet. Since there are so many people participating in the lottery so winning chances are very slim so just try our luck every week with a small amount. After all those improvements last week number tickers sold was quite less.

I agree, mate. I'm not going to buy millions of tickets in order to improve my chances of winning a prize. I think millions of sats is a too big amount to put it at risk. Although, it must be noted that the two previous winners have done exactly that. One of them bought 6,276,181 tickets and won 0.68563256 BTC in the round 169 (net win 0.62 BTC). And another one bought 2,120,960 tickets and won 0.46195317 BTC (net win 0.44 BTC).

Nevertheless, like you said, we'll try our luck with small amounts. Let's hope that one day we'll be as lucky as user 13858834, who won 1.23699432 BTC with just 340 tickets in the Lottery Round 164. Smiley

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September 05, 2018, 10:40:51 AM
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Although, it must be noted that the two previous winners have done exactly that. One of them bought 6,276,181 tickets and won 0.68563256 BTC in the round 169 (net win 0.62 BTC). And another one bought 2,120,960 tickets and won 0.46195317 BTC (net win 0.44 BTC).

I've checked out a few the past winners that have had a lot of tickets and it looks like in general, they get them playing dice. There is one free lottery ticket for every 500 sats wagered.

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September 05, 2018, 10:48:32 AM
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Although, it must be noted that the two previous winners have done exactly that. One of them bought 6,276,181 tickets and won 0.68563256 BTC in the round 169 (net win 0.62 BTC). And another one bought 2,120,960 tickets and won 0.46195317 BTC (net win 0.44 BTC).

I've checked out a few the past winners that have had a lot of tickets and it looks like in general, they get them playing dice. There is one free lottery ticket for every 500 sats wagered.

Yeah I got 128000 wagering with 0.03+ BTC.
@thequin, could we have a way to convert reward point into lottery tickets directly (maybe at a good rate like 1rp = 3 tickets)?

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September 05, 2018, 11:11:29 AM
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Yeah I got 128000 wagering with 0.03+ BTC.
@thequin, could we have a way to convert reward point into lottery tickets directly (maybe at a good rate like 1rp = 3 tickets)?

I'm a bit cautious on that idea as that would allow the bots to get 3x the lottery tickets as well.

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September 05, 2018, 11:49:42 AM
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Yeah I got 128000 wagering with 0.03+ BTC.
@thequin, could we have a way to convert reward point into lottery tickets directly (maybe at a good rate like 1rp = 3 tickets)?

I'm a bit cautious on that idea as that would allow the bots to get 3x the lottery tickets as well.

You could always have it after a wager of 0.5BTC or 1BTC, the botters are never going to get that high easily...

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The wagering contest for the month of August will be ending soon, but it seems that the winner on the 1st place of the previous wagering contest is not wagering big amount this month, the user ID of the winner in the previous wagering contest is 14107731, but I didn't see him taking up any spots yet in the top 10 players for this month wagering contest, I was thinking if he will appear and start to wager huge amount of money before this month wagering contest ends or will we see a new player winning this month big prize for the 1st place.

Unless he/she is addicted to gambling then they may gamble every day and month. But he may be thinking that whatever he has got lost month may be good enough and may come back sometime later. If you play or wager dice game more and more then finally people lose more than they get. Good luck to the people who are competing this month.

There are not many gamblers that stop while they're ahead and hit the withdraw button but this one did.  He lost everything he deposited and only withdrew the prize he won which was about 0.4750% of what he had deposited.  This will happen to ALL the "top 10".

Exactly correct TheQuack,  and this is exactly why the same "winnners" do not show up every single month.  Because they are not winners at all.  They are MASSIVE LOSERS (trying to debate this fact is pointless since wetsuit refuses to prove otherwise,  it's always logical to side with mathmatical facts,  and the fact is,  you cannot beat math,  therefore they are all losers until proven otherwise).  This is why we should rename this contest to "The biggest losers contest!".  That is,  if it's not trademarked by the tv show of the same name LMFAO.  Then again wetsuit doesnt care about regulations anyway so lets do it up,  rename this bitch Cheesy

Or maybe rename it to "Donate to wetsuit's lambo fund contest!".  The biggest donation contributor gets to donate everything he deposited and as a TY they get back whatever crappy prize the contest gives which will be no more than 0.4750% of whatever was wagered by the top 10 which is guaranteed to be far less than whatever the donation was lol.

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September 05, 2018, 08:11:16 PM
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Yeah I got 128000 wagering with 0.03+ BTC.
@thequin, could we have a way to convert reward point into lottery tickets directly (maybe at a good rate like 1rp = 3 tickets)?

I'm a bit cautious on that idea as that would allow the bots to get 3x the lottery tickets as well.

You could always have it after a wager of 0.5BTC or 1BTC, the botters are never going to get that high easily...
Its good idea now they can implement few rules like if some one want to exchange RP in Lottery tickets then must complete wagering requirement because many dice sites and casinos have different type rules for promotions so if they will implement this hopefully this could be very helpful and many members will be able to have too many tickets with these RP easily
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September 06, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
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Although, it must be noted that the two previous winners have done exactly that. One of them bought 6,276,181 tickets and won 0.68563256 BTC in the round 169 (net win 0.62 BTC). And another one bought 2,120,960 tickets and won 0.46195317 BTC (net win 0.44 BTC).

I've checked out a few the past winners that have had a lot of tickets and it looks like in general, they get them playing dice. There is one free lottery ticket for every 500 sats wagered.

I just checked that. I made 14 bets with 256 sats, and indeed I was given additional 7 lottery tickets to my existed 559. I stopped because with 94.06% win chance there is a high probability to lose my 256 in 20 rolls. So I decided to not risk it and to buy 256 tickets instead of getting 10-30 tickets max and losing 256 sats. Of course it depends on your luck, and it's possible to be in profit even while wagering, taking into account that you win 2 sats every roll betting 256 sats with 94.06% win chance. But I've learned already that I'm not that lucky. Smiley

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September 06, 2018, 09:14:07 AM
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School holidays must be over and mummy and daddy let you have internet access again.

Well the start of what he said was sort of right (probably the broken clock principle).


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September 06, 2018, 10:00:27 AM
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Well the start of what he said was sort of right (probably the broken clock principle).

Not really and I already answered him so many times I'm not going to waste my time repeating myself and replying to him in the future. I would have thought summer camp would have given him time to think up something new. Sadly he can't think so it is the broken record again.

In gambling, some people win and some people lose. The house edge means that the house will come out on top over a much larger sample size, luck evens out. If everyone was a loser then gambling would have ceased to exist.

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September 06, 2018, 02:53:00 PM
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If everyone was a loser then gambling would have ceased to exist.

Except this isnt about casino history is it.  It's about 1 particular "Casino" if it should even be called that at all.  It should actually just be a donation to wetsuit since that is exactly what it amounts to with the retardedly high "house edge" that has time and again been proven to be unrealistically high for it's industry (online casinos).  There is absolutely NO excuse that is reasonable to have such a high house edge.  Even with all the "bonuses", "lotteries", and "contests",  the math just doesnt add up to being reasonable when compared with others.  Couple that with snakeoil salezmen such as TheQuack and you have a classic scam casino as outlined here:  https://www.gamblingsites.com/online-casino/blacklist/  (every one of these red flags can be seen with this shit casino,  most notably unrealistic contest prize amounts and/or bonuses is of interest here).  This shit casino is more of a pyramid scam than a casino.

The reason you dont see people consistently winning the "wagering contest" every month isnt because they are calling it quits while they are ahead.  That isnt how humans work.  It's because they are losing massively and will never return.  It's just that simple.

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September 06, 2018, 03:22:14 PM
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I have answered all that bullshit countless times, there is no need to keep posting it. While you and the other kids were at summer camp wetsuit gave me much greater responsibilities at freebitco.in which means I'll be doing all the day to day running of the site. Sadly that also means I'll no longer have time to make fun of your stupidity. I'm going to follow wetsuit's lead and put you on my ignore list now.

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I have ignored all those accusations countless times, there is no need to keep posting it. While you and the other kids were at summer camp wetsuit gave me much greater responsibilities at freebitco.in which means I'll be doing all the day to day running of the site. Sadly that also means I'll no longer have time to make fun of your stupidity. I'm going to follow wetsuit's lead and put you on my ignore list now.


Thats a good plan,  now you wont know to spam reply my posts off the screen.  I like that idea.  I wont have to edit them as much to stop you from doing that anymore lol.  The point is you've constantly dodged very valid points about these supposed "top wagerers" as having actually won more than they've deposited (which you keep eluding to but refuse to prove) which would be of interest to many others considering playing the 94.06% odd but will not because they are absolutely convinced (for all the right reasons) that it would still be a losing effort.  Now if the house edge was lower which would allow for a higher odds percent,  it may be worth a shot.  But it's not,  so it isnt worth even trying.  I am 100% confident that every single account listed in the top 10 wagerers is massively in the hole due to the house edge being so high.  The statistics also support that because if that were not the case,  the previous top players would STILL be in the top 10 (as was seen in the lottery before bots were somewhat thwarted but I still see them showing up in the lottery anyway) in the following months.  And thats NOT the case.  Therefore COMMON SENSE dictates that every one of them LOST more than they won.  The point is,  if something is worth playing,  the same players will continue to return.  If it's NOT worth playing,  the players will ALWAYS be different and that is exactly what you are seeing with this 30K contest crap that isnt really a contest at all.  It's just a donation to wetsuit.

Well,  I just took a look at the last contest vs the current contest and I've uncovered possible evidence that the top wagerers are indeed LOSING as I've said would happen all along.

Example:

Contest Round 2 WAGERER ID:  712628 wagered  67.30000000 (about,  since its not exact,  wetsuit decided to round down so he could skim more off the top,  this account actually wagered slightly more)
Contest Round 2 REFERER ID:  654092 always exactly matched 712628's wagering and therefore they are obviously the same person (as seen below in a previous post).

Magnificent how a whale can change your life, if you have one as a referral. The User 712628 is one of User 654092's referrals, because the wager amount is exactly the same. So if this was the same user with 2 accounts that are linked by the referral system, then he/she is winning both the competition prizes. $10 000 for the Wagering Contest and $5000 for the Referral Contest.

Funny thing is, he or she still get the 0.40% referral commission from the referral system too. <roughly $2000> on that amount.  Grin

Contest Round 3 WAGERER ID:  654092 can be seen in the top 10 wagerers but 712628 is no where to be found.  It clearly has no referral account connected to it because no referrer has this amount in the contest atm.  The only possible referrer with 38BTC would be 2846681 but it's not because 2846681 and 3035118 pretty much match identically minus a few sats which means he has 1 or 2 other legit referrals that wager next to nothing.  

Therefore,  it's obvious that 654092 is 712628's last hope and they are in for a REALLY bad month since they will eventually lose it all........... AGAIN.   So it's safe to assume that 712628 lost everything and they now only have the referral account balance to work with and are stupidly trying to win it all back.  There could be other accounts doing this as well,  but the point is moot.  This actually confirms everything I've been saying and the bullshit that TheQuack has been spewing about these people actually winning and "cashing out" insinuating that they won anything at all is utter non-sense.  These clowns didnt "win" anything.  They are LOSING and wetsuit is laughing all the way to the lambo dealership.

An extra kicker to show how stupid these people are.... who in their right mind would wager that much and NOT have themselves as their own referral.  Duuuuuuuuuuh.  Like,  wtf lmfao.  These clowns have absolutely no common sense at all.

If there were ever a better definition of unscrupulous,  this service (or better put,  this DIS-service) would be it and it's sickening to see people like yourself attempt to defend it.

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September 06, 2018, 09:50:04 PM
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@TheQuin, the pay with altcoins function doesn't seem to be wroking on the site (not sure if it's just me or not though)...

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September 07, 2018, 05:17:00 AM
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Wow! Wagering really increases reward points quite a bit, I made a total wager of ~0.1BTC (I was down but about 0.01BTC at one point but managed to get myself back up)... Anyway, I now have 60000 reward points from that one session, and 19K lottery tickets so maybe it was worthwhile...

Quite fun when you get the lottery tickets and reward points, when I came here in 2015 with my 0.003BTC to gamble, it wasn't as good without them so I didn't really use this site - and actually that session only lost me 0.001BTC.

Edit: made myself a neat 0.0003BTC profit Grin.

Yeah, good to see that it's "instantly" profitable to have a wagering return. Normally, casinos reward you with loyalty, or with monthly contests that wipe the board clean (freebitcoin has it too of course). But this way, you win or you lose, you see something back in return. Never won the lottery, but every time I wager or roll, I have this tiny hope that I'll get something back one day from the lottery. Just wish it were back in those days when the lottery prizes were much bigger (yes, I know it's because of Bitcoin price!).

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