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November 21, 2018, 11:22:42 PM
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As this is allowed, is it also allowed to refer the one account by the other one to get referral comissions? (Of course using Free Rolls only on one account)

No, that would be abusing the referral system. There is no rule against having 2 accounts but the referral system is meant to reward you for introducing new people to the site, referring yourself obviously doesn't fit into that. It is really just a matter of common sense as what is and isn't abuse.

so... how about those wagering and referral contest winners?
some of them are suspiciously looked like they referred their own account to get both prizes
the connected accounts in question, both are having the same total wager amounts

YEs but they want to wager highly.... TheQuin and wetsut aren't going to block them are they if they want to waste (i mean gamble) with their money on this site... IF they do, those users might go and find a casino with a more reasonable house edge Grin.

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November 22, 2018, 12:06:06 AM
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As this is allowed, is it also allowed to refer the one account by the other one to get referral comissions? (Of course using Free Rolls only on one account)

No, that would be abusing the referral system. There is no rule against having 2 accounts but the referral system is meant to reward you for introducing new people to the site, referring yourself obviously doesn't fit into that. It is really just a matter of common sense as what is and isn't abuse.

so... how about those wagering and referral contest winners?
some of them are suspiciously looked like they referred their own account to get both prizes
the connected accounts in question, both are having the same total wager amounts

The fact that an account only has one referral that wagers doesn't make it suspicious. These accounts certainly didn't do it to abuse the wagering contest as they are much older than the competition.

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November 22, 2018, 12:09:09 AM
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The fact that an account only has one referral that wagers doesn't make it suspicious. These accounts certainly didn't do it to abuse the wagering contest as they are much older than the competition.

LMFAO.  More lies.  Dude doesnt realize he f'd up when he suggested using 2 accounts to recreate a feature that really should exist already but does not because this shithole enjoys stealing people's BTC due to mistakes and other non-sense of the sort.  He also fails to mention that if someone wins and they used their own referral,  it opens the door for them to conveniently say "opps,  to bad,  you still lose because you abused the referral system".  But the fact that they havent done that yet just goes to prove that these people are not winning in the first place anyway.

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November 22, 2018, 12:48:21 AM
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As this is allowed, is it also allowed to refer the one account by the other one to get referral comissions? (Of course using Free Rolls only on one account)

No, that would be abusing the referral system. There is no rule against having 2 accounts but the referral system is meant to reward you for introducing new people to the site, referring yourself obviously doesn't fit into that. It is really just a matter of common sense as what is and isn't abuse.

so... how about those wagering and referral contest winners?
some of them are suspiciously looked like they referred their own account to get both prizes
the connected accounts in question, both are having the same total wager amounts

YEs but they want to wager highly.... TheQuin and wetsut aren't going to block them are they if they want to waste (i mean gamble) with their money on this site... IF they do, those users might go and find a casino with a more reasonable house edge Grin.

Fortunately, most customers don't look at an isolated figure but take into account the overall package and they see that we are very competitive with the plain low edge sites. Judging by the volume of business we do compared to them our approach is very popular.
You are right that we aren't going looking for small cases of abuse like that. We're far too busy dealing with people with hundreds or thousands of accounts.

BTW. I like the new avatar.

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November 23, 2018, 02:57:13 AM
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You are right that we aren't going looking for small cases of abuse like that.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight,  more snakeoil lies.  "Small cases of abuse" is it.  What about the LEGIT referrers getting snubbed out by these assclowns who are losing their ass and being listed as "winners" in the wager "contest" which should actually be relabeled to "Biggest losers contest".  You see people, there is a reason for this.  If the idiots at the top actually WIN,  they'll still lose because they get their account EMPTIED due to "referral cheating".  But if they lose,  nothing happens (to either of their accounts).  In BOTH cases,  REAL referrers are NOT paid what they should be because they were edged out by the cheating mofos.  So for wetback and thequack,  it's a winwin because paying REAL referrers costs more than it does to pay someone whos gambling.  Dont let this assclown sweet talk you into making 2 accounts.  All it does is give them an opportunity to rape you even easier than otherwise (as if its not easy enough as it is).  So the problem with the Lottery simply moved from the Lottery to the "Wagering Contest" and never actually disappeared as these idiots would like you to think.  It's still there and very alive.

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November 23, 2018, 02:08:15 PM
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Fortunately, most customers don't look at an isolated figure but take into account the overall package and they see that we are very competitive with the plain low edge sites. Judging by the volume of business we do compared to them our approach is very popular.
You are right that we aren't going looking for small cases of abuse like that. We're far too busy dealing with people with hundreds or thousands of accounts.

BTW. I like the new avatar.


Yeah, I’m going to be more biased towards hating the site since I can’t get in it anymore Grin (Janet blocks everything, even medical data mining servers get blocked)...

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November 24, 2018, 04:49:29 AM
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It would be nice if you could have a separate "space" to store the coins that we use for gambling and a "space" where you keep the coins for the "income" option. You could offer the users a drop down menu to select the "space" for the different options. <pre configure a percentage for gambling & Lotto>

I know Freebitco.in can benefit from mistakes like this, so there is no reason why they would invest time into something like this, but it will be a nice feature for the users. <failsafe option>  Wink

I stopped using auto-bet, because of this and I think some people might have stopped gambling all together because of previous mistakes like this.  Angry

The other failsafe option is to have another account to keep a separate balance for the interest. As long as you don't use it to claim free rolls as well as your main account we don't mind people doing that.


As this is allowed, is it also allowed to refer the one account by the other one to get referral comissions? (Of course using Free Rolls only on one account)

No, that would be abusing the referral system. There is no rule against having 2 accounts but the referral system is meant to reward you for introducing new people to the site, referring yourself obviously doesn't fit into that. It is really just a matter of common sense as what is and isn't abuse.


Please be clear what is and isn't abuse, specific to the following case:
Case 1: User A create 1 main account and another 10 accounts refering himself. Deposit into all of these 11 accounts, play multiply on all accounts get RPs Claim free BTC (Not taking into account overall profit/loss). A specific purpose just to gambling against your site.
Case 2: User B create only 1 account, referring different 10 accounts. User B does not deposit a single satoshi, just play for free and get referrals, other 10 accounts selfdom play, some are depositing and may profit/loss.
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November 24, 2018, 07:19:48 AM
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It would be nice if you could have a separate "space" to store the coins that we use for gambling and a "space" where you keep the coins for the "income" option. You could offer the users a drop down menu to select the "space" for the different options. <pre configure a percentage for gambling & Lotto>

I know Freebitco.in can benefit from mistakes like this, so there is no reason why they would invest time into something like this, but it will be a nice feature for the users. <failsafe option>  Wink

I stopped using auto-bet, because of this and I think some people might have stopped gambling all together because of previous mistakes like this.  Angry

The other failsafe option is to have another account to keep a separate balance for the interest. As long as you don't use it to claim free rolls as well as your main account we don't mind people doing that.


As this is allowed, is it also allowed to refer the one account by the other one to get referral comissions? (Of course using Free Rolls only on one account)

No, that would be abusing the referral system. There is no rule against having 2 accounts but the referral system is meant to reward you for introducing new people to the site, referring yourself obviously doesn't fit into that. It is really just a matter of common sense as what is and isn't abuse.


Please be clear what is and isn't abuse, specific to the following case:
Case 1: User A create 1 main account and another 10 accounts refering himself. Deposit into all of these 11 accounts, play multiply on all accounts get RPs Claim free BTC (Not taking into account overall profit/loss). A specific purpose just to gambling against your site.
Case 2: User B create only 1 account, referring different 10 accounts. User B does not deposit a single satoshi, just play for free and get referrals, other 10 accounts selfdom play, some are depositing and may profit/loss.


I already have been clear that referring yourself is an abuse of the referral system. It is there to reward you for bringing in new customers not to make referral commissions from yourself. So both of your examples are abusive.

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November 24, 2018, 08:43:19 AM
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It would be nice if you could have a separate "space" to store the coins that we use for gambling and a "space" where you keep the coins for the "income" option. You could offer the users a drop down menu to select the "space" for the different options. <pre configure a percentage for gambling & Lotto>

I know Freebitco.in can benefit from mistakes like this, so there is no reason why they would invest time into something like this, but it will be a nice feature for the users. <failsafe option>  Wink

I stopped using auto-bet, because of this and I think some people might have stopped gambling all together because of previous mistakes like this.  Angry

The other failsafe option is to have another account to keep a separate balance for the interest. As long as you don't use it to claim free rolls as well as your main account we don't mind people doing that.


As this is allowed, is it also allowed to refer the one account by the other one to get referral comissions? (Of course using Free Rolls only on one account)

No, that would be abusing the referral system. There is no rule against having 2 accounts but the referral system is meant to reward you for introducing new people to the site, referring yourself obviously doesn't fit into that. It is really just a matter of common sense as what is and isn't abuse.


Please be clear what is and isn't abuse, specific to the following case:
Case 1: User A create 1 main account and another 10 accounts refering himself. Deposit into all of these 11 accounts, play multiply on all accounts get RPs Claim free BTC (Not taking into account overall profit/loss). A specific purpose just to gambling against your site.
Case 2: User B create only 1 account, referring different 10 accounts. User B does not deposit a single satoshi, just play for free and get referrals, other 10 accounts selfdom play, some are depositing and may profit/loss.


I already have been clear that referring yourself is an abuse of the referral system. It is there to reward you for bringing in new customers not to make referral commissions from yourself. So both of your examples are abusive.

I mean for case 2 is another 10 new users, so let say it is a Non abusive.

Bringing new customers which are potentially gamblers that bring profit to you. Abuse of the referral system, yes, but 50% correct. Another 50% can proof that someoone with an insanse bot algo + enough bank roll can shut the shop down to bankruptcy. i.e:

1. With a 10 BTC bankroll, split into 10 accounts and User A kick of the betting bot (which is not abusive as declared in your previous posts). As soon as one of the account get REKTED, his earning from another 9 accounts can be used to backup the other to beat the losing streak, and repeat again. What if all these accounts do not claim hourly FREE BTC but gets what it risked for (betting) to get the Reward Points/ exchange BTC + earned profit from betting? I guess it will be "abusive" answer. So, is this a case where you are scared of?

2. Same as above strategy but this time assume 10 of the closed/best friends/trusted with the referer is the team leader which is User A, collectively join the bankroll of 10 BTC (1BTC each and lending/borrowing/transfer back and forth) to bet against your site, all the BTC transfer around on the blockchain itself to gather up as long as a member need it, when he get a losing streak event. Will all of the friends get banned and get marked as abusive of the system? I guess it should be "abusive" "sometime/anytime" since your site is having a risk of losing against gamblers. If it is a non-abusive, then what are the reason why (1) is abusive and (2) is not abusive, since your potential income is 10BTC each case? Assume that both cases the referer will never get any more user into the system (no more level 2 user).


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November 24, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
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I mean for case 2 is another 10 new users, so let say it is a Non abusive.

Obviously, if it is 10 different people then it isn't abuse. You're trying to make complicated arguments about something that is very simple. Don't self-refer and don't play more than one free roll per hour. That's it.

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November 25, 2018, 03:07:39 AM
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Does disabling lottery tickets also disable them for the Multiply BTC game? I have the option to disable lottery tickets turned on so I receive Reward Points instead, but I just checked the lottery page and it says that I have 7 tickets. I had always assumed that disabling lottery tickets disabled them for the entire website. The only information I could find on the site mentions that lottery is disabled for faucet claims but says nothing about tickets earned from wagering.

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November 25, 2018, 04:12:46 AM
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Does disabling lottery tickets also disable them for the Multiply BTC game? I have the option to disable lottery tickets turned on so I receive Reward Points instead, but I just checked the lottery page and it says that I have 7 tickets. I had always assumed that disabling lottery tickets disabled them for the entire website. The only information I could find on the site mentions that lottery is disabled for faucet claims but says nothing about tickets earned from wagering.

It does only replace lottery tickets with reward points for free rolls not wagering.

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November 25, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
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any1 wants buy freebitco.in acc with 141 referral and bonus of 0.28265318 BTC for playing MULTIPLY BTC
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November 25, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
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any1 wants buy freebitco.in acc with 141 referral and bonus of 0.28265318 BTC for playing MULTIPLY BTC
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If you don't precise the real balance of the account, nobody will buy. An account with 0 in balance and 141 inactive referrals is worth nothing, whatever the amount you can get in multiply BTC bonus.

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The problem is, this second account might be flagged erroneously and you might end up losing your income generating account. I would not have to risk that, if I could just configure a percentage of my total balance for a specific purpose. That should not be too difficult to code?

This could be seen as a "budget" tool for beginners and you can give people the option to turn this on or off. <Like the options under the referral section for the distribution of the rewards>  Roll Eyes

I agree with what Kakmakr is saying here. It would be more convenient for users if they could keep the money intended for income generation on the same account were they make freerolls, play lottery and play multiply games. Of course people can do what they want with their own money, but it should be made difficult for them to start playing with the invested money. For example, transferring the money from "SAVE" account to "PLAY" account should be possible only with email confirmation.

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November 25, 2018, 08:27:35 PM
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@thequin, is it possible to bring back something like the mining permalink so it’s possible to see ones ballance and ones interest without having that faff of logging in every time you want to view it?

It’ll mean there’s less download needed when roaming too...

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November 26, 2018, 12:30:58 AM
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@thequin, is it possible to bring back something like the mining permalink so it’s possible to see ones ballance and ones interest without having that faff of logging in every time you want to view it?

It’ll mean there’s less download needed when roaming too...

How would you secure that? It didn't matter with mining as all anyone could do with it was mine for you. With this, they could see your balance and that could make your account a target for hacking.

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November 26, 2018, 02:29:51 AM
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@thequin, is it possible to bring back something like the mining permalink so it’s possible to see ones ballance and ones interest without having that faff of logging in every time you want to view it?

It’ll mean there’s less download needed when roaming too...

How would you secure that? It didn't matter with mining as all anyone could do with it was mine for you. With this, they could see your balance and that could make your account a target for hacking.

I thought they could see your balance before couldn’t they?

Or am I mistaken here? I always thought it was somewhere on the mining page just rom the link. It doesn’t have to be an easy to guess link, it could be something like freebitco.in/depositaddress it’ll still save the faff with 2fa...

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November 26, 2018, 05:21:30 AM
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I thought they could see your balance before couldn’t they?

Or am I mistaken here? I always thought it was somewhere on the mining page just rom the link. It doesn’t have to be an easy to guess link, it could be something like freebitco.in/depositaddress it’ll still save the faff with 2fa...

IIRC it only showed the total you had earned from mining. I'll mention it to wetsuit but it seems like it might introduce a vulnerability to me.

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November 26, 2018, 08:20:47 AM
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The problem is, this second account might be flagged erroneously and you might end up losing your income generating account. I would not have to risk that, if I could just configure a percentage of my total balance for a specific purpose. That should not be too difficult to code?

This could be seen as a "budget" tool for beginners and you can give people the option to turn this on or off. <Like the options under the referral section for the distribution of the rewards>  Roll Eyes

I agree with what Kakmakr is saying here. It would be more convenient for users if they could keep the money intended for income generation on the same account were they make freerolls, play lottery and play multiply games. Of course people can do what they want with their own money, but it should be made difficult for them to start playing with the invested money. For example, transferring the money from "SAVE" account to "PLAY" account should be possible only with email confirmation.

It is not even a different Bitcoin address, but rather a ledger entry on the Freebitco.in web interface. So it should not be a train smash to implement this.  Tongue  Huh

I used to channel some of my income from my referral network via the web interface to reward my best referrals, so Freebitco.in already have the tools developed for that, so they can just adapt that function and add that to the total income, to manage the "budget" that are used for the different functions on the site.  Roll Eyes

As you said, it is our money and we should be able to manage it better.  Grin

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