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August 19, 2018, 02:00:24 PM
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Looks like we are going to see a repeat of last weeks draw result, with the total amount of tickets for the Lottery at a mind

boggling 1,163,352,553 tickets once again and also a first prize of  BTC2.59694688. I think, I am going to stop using my

interest to buy Lottery tickets until Wetsuit figured out how to stop these bots from "cheating" in the Lottery. Well, cheating

might be a little harsh, but you get what I am saying.  Roll Eyes

I think the high number of tickets has also something to do with the wagering contest.
Because you get 1 free lottery ticket and 5 reward points for every 0.00000500 BTC you wager.

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August 19, 2018, 02:06:37 PM
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I think the high number of tickets has also something to do with the wagering contest.
Because you get 1 free lottery ticket and 5 reward points for every 0.00000500 BTC you wager.

This isn't 100% accurate because the stats are to the end of Saturday but 7 days wagering volume was 1,185BTC. That gives 237 million tickets and is a very small part of the 1.1 to 1.2 billion total.

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August 19, 2018, 02:10:15 PM
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This isn't 100% accurate because the stats are to the end of Saturday but 7 days wagering volume was 1,185BTC. That gives 237 million tickets and is a very small part of the 1.1 to 1.2 billion total.

Is the rest mostly botnets or legitimate users or is it too hard to work out.
I guess people can do the 1000 lottery tickets per roll reward and see if they get anywhere...

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August 19, 2018, 02:18:15 PM
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Is the rest mostly botnets or legitimate users or is it too hard to work out.
I guess people can do the 1000 lottery tickets per roll reward and see if they get anywhere...

Too hard for me to work out as I only have a limited view of the stats. One way to get a guess would be to download the tickets file when it comes out and see all the accounts grouped together with almost the same number of tickets as they're likely to be botnets. My best guess is based on the fact there used to be 400 to 500 million tickets a week but now we're doing over a billion so I think 50% to 65% bots.

We restricted the RP redemption for 1000 lottery tickets per roll because that's what they were doing a while ago but they've switched to buying them instead. wetsuit said they're even depositing and buying tickets with the deposit to get around all the restrictions. Maybe if they have some bad luck and don't win anything that'll make think about not doing it next week.

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August 19, 2018, 03:01:36 PM
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Too hard for me to work out as I only have a limited view of the stats. One way to get a guess would be to download the tickets file when it comes out and see all the accounts grouped together with almost the same number of tickets as they're likely to be botnets. My best guess is based on the fact there used to be 400 to 500 million tickets a week but now we're doing over a billion so I think 50% to 65% bots.
Maybe I'll make a graph out of that file and find out of they are all near each other or not (probably best).

... but they've switched to buying them instead. wetsuit said they're even depositing and buying tickets with the deposit to get around all the restrictions. Maybe if they have some bad luck and don't win anything that'll make think about not doing it next week.

Isn't that what you want, you're probably still then making a profit from them?

Restrictions on that are going to be really difficult to do as it'll block out a lot of regular users already.

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August 19, 2018, 03:14:44 PM
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Isn't that what you want, you're probably still then making a profit from them?

That's what I was thinking when wetsuit told me they started doing it. But the thing is we make a small loss on the lottery so it is +EV to them because of buying tickets with all the free-roll winnings.

Restrictions on that are going to be really difficult to do as it'll block out a lot of regular users already.

We'll probably just have to make it -EV.

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August 19, 2018, 04:55:45 PM
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you are making progress in fighting bots.
Last week there were 750,000 accounts in the lottery. today 650000
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August 19, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
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you are making progress in fighting bots.
Last week there were 750,000 accounts in the lottery. today 650000

Yeah, I'm doing the sums slightly differently but similar conclusion. I was initially disappointed that my idea wasn't more effective but when I think about the fact that they have actually started to pay to play I know we've got them on the back foot.

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August 19, 2018, 05:39:03 PM
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the same bot has already taken 6 places
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August 19, 2018, 05:40:25 PM
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the same bot has already taken 6 places

Not as bad as the 8 they had last week. Also ties in with my 50 - 65% of the tickets estimate.

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August 19, 2018, 05:50:11 PM
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I made a scatter graph of the tickets but it doesn't give so much.


I'm trying to make a pie chart but it seems very resource intensive and will probably end in a similar thing.

P.S. did wetsuit play this one, I'm sure it began with UID 5 on the sheet and that seems quite low for it to be another user.

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August 19, 2018, 05:53:25 PM
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P.S. did wetsuit play this one, I'm sure it began with UID 5 on the sheet and that seems quite low for it to be another user.

wetsuit's UID is 4. Check the ref link in his signature!

I made a scatter graph of the tickets but it doesn't give so much.

I'm not sure how to get the best out of it but UIDs close together with similar numbers of tickets (looks around 25k) is what to look for.

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August 19, 2018, 05:57:08 PM
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P.S. did wetsuit play this one, I'm sure it began with UID 5 on the sheet and that seems quite low for it to be another user.

wetsuit's UID is 4. Check the ref link in his signature!

Does he not have 3, 2 & 1 (so he could technically have 5, I guessed it was a genuine user though).

And the first one is 6...

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August 19, 2018, 05:58:33 PM
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P.S. did wetsuit play this one, I'm sure it began with UID 5 on the sheet and that seems quite low for it to be another user.

wetsuit's UID is 4. Check the ref link in his signature!

Does he not have 3, 2 & 1 (so he could technically have 5, I guessed it was a genuine user though).

1 would be root and 2 and 3 admin and/or testing. 5 was the first customer to sign up (I'm 178).

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August 19, 2018, 06:05:57 PM
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LOTTERY ROUND 168
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #6 with 684 tickets.
#1 won 2.62126442 BTC with 24,901 tickets.

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August 19, 2018, 10:23:52 PM
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P.S. did wetsuit play this one, I'm sure it began with UID 5 on the sheet and that seems quite low for it to be another user.

wetsuit's UID is 4. Check the ref link in his signature!

I made a scatter graph of the tickets but it doesn't give so much.

I'm not sure how to get the best out of it but UIDs close together with similar numbers of tickets (looks around 25k) is what to look for.

there's ~30K of such accounts starting at UID 15055000 and ending around 152383xx
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August 20, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
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I think, I am going to stop using my

interest to buy Lottery tickets until Wetsuit figured out how to stop these bots from "cheating" in the Lottery. Well, cheating

might be a little harsh, but you get what I am saying.


I can't get hold of wetsuit so far today but looking at the number ticket so far this week the bots are nowhere to be seen. I'm looking forward to dealing with all the complaints that the prize is small next weekend.

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August 20, 2018, 11:27:10 AM
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Take a look at this screen, here it is clear that I have all satoshi who got in free throws, lost in the casino.

My commiserations at losing the free money we gave you. The ban probably means you were doing something that made us very sure you were using a bot.


And how can I unblock my account?
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August 20, 2018, 11:30:44 AM
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And how can I unblock my account?

It depends on what the ban is. Have you tried playing from another IP address to establish if it is the address that is banned or the account?

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Yes, I changed the IP address
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