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October 27, 2018, 09:59:42 AM
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isn't it ridiculous if freebitco.in blacklisted ISPs with very many customers.

It would be. That's why we don't do it.


I'm surprised you look proud of the 50% decline in traffic and free rolls of games even though the wager volume remains the same

It is an indication that the selective action we have taken has been effectively targetted on abusive accounts and very few legitimate users have been affected. Compared to the support requests I had earlier this year when wetsuit tried a different method I have had hardly any requests from real users this time, just a few botters trying it on.

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October 27, 2018, 01:04:54 PM
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isn't it ridiculous if freebitco.in blacklisted ISPs with very many customers.
It would be. That's why we don't do it.

this is an explanation of the ISP blocking I mean in my previous post :


maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.


It is an indication that the selective action we have taken has been effectively targetted on abusive accounts and very few legitimate users have been affected. Compared to the support requests I had earlier this year when wetsuit tried a different method I have had hardly any requests from real users this time, just a few botters trying it on.

why don't you try to think in a user's perspective
Did you know, when you delete a user's account then he won't be able to log in and because of that he can't complain through his account.

not everyone out there understands how all this works and not all of the freebitco.in users know about this bitcointalk forum
even myself, I know freebitco.in first than this forum
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October 27, 2018, 01:43:57 PM
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why don't you try to think in a user's perspective

I do. I was a customer since the start of this site and only an employee for a few months.

Did you know, when you delete a user's account then he won't be able to log in and because of that he can't complain through his account.

Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

not everyone out there understands how all this works and not all of the freebitco.in users know about this bitcointalk forum
even myself, I know freebitco.in first than this forum

You are missing the central point I made. Back in around March wetsuit put some anti-bot measures in place that resulted in this forum being deluged with complaints. I answered a lot of those and wetsuit asked me if I wanted to do forum support as a result of that. From talking to him and suggesting a few things he's implemented a new anti-bot system that has reduced free rolls by 50% and not resulted in any significant number of complaints. I also do the email support now and there very few there as well.

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October 27, 2018, 07:55:44 PM
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why don't you try to think in a user's perspective

I do. I was a customer since the start of this site and only an employee for a few months.

Did you know, when you delete a user's account then he won't be able to log in and because of that he can't complain through his account.

Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

not everyone out there understands how all this works and not all of the freebitco.in users know about this bitcointalk forum
even myself, I know freebitco.in first than this forum

You are missing the central point I made. Back in around March wetsuit put some anti-bot measures in place that resulted in this forum being deluged with complaints. I answered a lot of those and wetsuit asked me if I wanted to do forum support as a result of that. From talking to him and suggesting a few things he's implemented a new anti-bot system that has reduced free rolls by 50% and not resulted in any significant number of complaints. I also do the email support now and there very few there as well.

ha ha ha, are you still fighting bots?  here something being discussed in addition to combat bots? not be interesting for you to read
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October 28, 2018, 01:51:48 AM
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ha ha ha, are you still fighting bots?  here something being discussed in addition to combat bots? not be interesting for you to read

Welcome back. I'm sorry to have to inform you that since you have been gone you have been replaced. We now have another imbecilic troll that beats you hands down at posting utter crap.

Nothing additional was being discussed. @Gary.Wilson_Jr. was incorrectly saying that we had blocked ISPs and genuine users with dynamic IPs were being affected. This is wrong in that we don't block ISPs and the IP ranges we do block are used for proxy and VPN services and are not the ranges that ISPs use for domestic customers. We are also not receiving complaints from real customers so I know that the blocking is correctly targetted. If anyone does have any additional suggestions I'm always willing to hear them and if we can implement something successful from them we always pay bounties.

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October 28, 2018, 05:41:25 AM
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Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

Yes, you know anybody can send an email there but not many "anybody" know about that email address because you don't display it on the site.

You are missing the central point I made. Back in around March wetsuit put some anti-bot measures in place that resulted in this forum being deluged with complaints. I answered a lot of those and wetsuit asked me if I wanted to do forum support as a result of that. From talking to him and suggesting a few things he's implemented a new anti-bot system that has reduced free rolls by 50% and not resulted in any significant number of complaints. I also do the email support now and there very few there as well.

no, I didn't miss anything
it is a slightly different subject, therefore I separate it from the previous subject
there I tried to say that maybe people who know freebitco.in from other people's referral links might not know about how to contact you like through this forum.
even myself, I just found out this forum a few months later. i know bitcointalk but i don't know if freebitco.in starts from here.

....... @Gary.Wilson_Jr. was incorrectly saying that we had blocked ISPs............

well, about blocking ISPs, you can say I'm wrong and I apologize for that, but I have revised what I mean by that in my previous post as below:

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.

........and genuine users with dynamic IPs were being affected. This is wrong in that we don't block ISPs and the IP ranges we do block are used for proxy and VPN services and are not the ranges that ISPs use for domestic customers.......

for this I am very sure if you are wrong, because I have proven it a few days ago as I explained in my previous post.
but it's just a report, I can't prove it further like sending the IP addresses I mean.
the reason I explained in my previous post and I also apologize for that.

if you feel annoyed with my report, just say it and I will stop continuing this topic.
I just hope you use my report as a consideration
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October 28, 2018, 07:03:13 AM
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Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

Yes, you know anybody can send an email there but not many "anybody" know about that email address because you don't display it on the site.

Plenty of people do email it, I get hundreds every day.

well, about blocking ISPs, you can say I'm wrong and I apologize for that, but I have revised what I mean by that in my previous post as below:

I'm trying to say that the bit in red is wrong. ISPs split up their networks and a domestic user with a dynamic address isn't going to be allocated an address from a pool being used by a datacentre that is hosting proxy servers.


for this I am very sure if you are wrong, because I have proven it a few days ago as I explained in my previous post.
but it's just a report, I can't prove it further like sending the IP addresses I mean.
the reason I explained in my previous post and I also apologize for that.

As I explained at the start IP address databases are not 100% accurate. I'm also human and may have made an error in blocking a network I shouldn't have. What I do know is that from the number of support requests we are receiving this method has had far less (almost none) impact on genuine users than things that we have done previously. It also has significantly reduced abuse.

if you feel annoyed with my report, just say it and I will stop continuing this topic.
I just hope you use my report as a consideration

Not at all, I'm always willing to discuss this. It makes a change from some idiot spamming about his shitbot dice script.

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October 28, 2018, 08:14:49 AM
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Actually, I don't know or understand what the problem is. This is a faucet site and casino. I do remember my IP being restricted a long time ago, in fact my IP gets me in trouble quite a lot, but I deposited and took the problems away. Withdrawals honored no problem.

Same as at other casinos, my IP have been blocked or banned. But after contacting, I get it unblocked normally. Only ONE casino here insisted that I was trying to cheat them, but they still let me withdraw all my money and I never played there again. A bit of a hassle but can't help my IP, because it is a computer that doesn't belong to me.

What I'm saying here is. If your issue is real, admins here and most crypto casinos pay attention and allow it.



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October 28, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
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Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

Yes, you know anybody can send an email there but not many "anybody" know about that email address because you don't display it on the site.
Plenty of people do email it, I get hundreds every day.
why don't you display the support email address on the site, so that everyone who gets into trouble can complain
that way you will get the actual number of complaints

I'm trying to say that the bit in red is wrong. ISPs split up their networks and a domestic user with a dynamic address isn't going to be allocated an address from a pool being used by a datacentre that is hosting proxy servers.
yes, but it's not the opposite of the bit in red, so it doesn't make it wrong
because you could block the range in a larger pool, which is a pool used by operators to serve domestic customers.

As I explained at the start IP address databases are not 100% accurate. I'm also human and may have made an error in blocking a network I shouldn't have. What I do know is that from the number of support requests we are receiving this method has had far less (almost none) impact on genuine users than things that we have done previously. It also has significantly reduced abuse.
then applying my first point in this post is a good thing
and preferably, display the support email on all pages including the login / sign up page because once you delete a user account, he will be directed to the login / sign up page

Actually, I don't know or understand what the problem is.....................

.............................If your issue is real, admins here and most crypto casinos pay attention and allow it.
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October 29, 2018, 12:17:53 AM
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why don't you display the support email address on the site, so that everyone who gets into trouble can complain
that way you will get the actual number of complaints

The majority of people who are locked out of their account and can't work out what the support email just makes a new account to contact us about the old one. I really don't think it is necessary and you are still ignoring my point that the number of complaints this time is COMPARITIVELY minute to when other measures have been put in.
Also the auto-blocking does not delete accounts. That is only done manually when I find a case of multi-accounting abuse that I'm 100% certain about.


yes, but it's not the opposite of the bit in red, so it doesn't make it wrong
because you could block the range in a larger pool, which is a pool used by operators to serve domestic customers.

The pools of addresses are not mixed usage. I'm blocking ranges allocated to datacentres, VPN, and proxy services that I actually find abuse on. Domestic customers cannot be allocated addresses from those pools. The only possibility for that to happen is an inaccuracy in the database and I only rectify that if a genuine customer user comes forward and tells me what the IP address is.

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 #7491

https://imgur.com/a/v3NP5Fi

@TheQuinn

Why I can't use my RP?

Also i can't claim at freedoge

Number keep rolling and wont stop

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October 29, 2018, 03:02:45 AM
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Why I can't use my RP?

You have to meet minimum wagering and balance requirements.

Also i can't claim at freedoge

Sorry, my psychic powers aren't up to divining that information.

Number keep rolling and wont stop

That is a network connection issue. When you roll a request is sent to the server and the animation starts. It only stops when/if it receives the response.

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October 29, 2018, 03:23:36 AM
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Why I can't use my RP?

You have to meet minimum wagering and balance requirements.

How do I know those minimum requirement?
https://imgur.com/a/ko82PeZ
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October 29, 2018, 03:28:39 AM
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How do I know those minimum requirement?

From that screenshot, it looks like there is something else here. PM me your user ID and/or email and I'll take a look.

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October 29, 2018, 05:05:08 AM
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How do I know those minimum requirement?

From that screenshot, it looks like there is something else here. PM me your user ID and/or email and I'll take a look.

https://imgur.com/a/PQLhTqV

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October 29, 2018, 05:08:27 AM
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How do I know those minimum requirement?

From that screenshot, it looks like there is something else here. PM me your user ID and/or email and I'll take a look.

https://imgur.com/a/PQLhTqV

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It shows again, thanks

I think it is a browser issue or something related. I was unable to reproduce it but they should still be displayed even if you are not eligible.

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October 29, 2018, 10:03:37 AM
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The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.
lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak

He was betting 7x and it is quite remarkable that only 51 is the longest he managed to get.

I agree, hitting that much of reds in a row is not uncommon for such multiplier.

Odds of losing 51 bets in a row at 13.57%(or 7x on FreeBitco.in): Once every 1698.67 bets.

Which doesn't necessarily mean you have to make around 1,700 bets to hit the losing streak. Actually you can hit it right away. But with over 1.5k bets made it seems like a pretty much expected outcome.

It's a common mistake made by newbies when they think that if playing with 7x multiplier, they should surely hit a winning number within 20 bets. I've been there myself as well. Smiley

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October 30, 2018, 09:55:46 AM
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why don't you display the support email address on the site, so that everyone who gets into trouble can complain
that way you will get the actual number of complaints

The majority of people who are locked out of their account and can't work out what the support email just makes a new account to contact us about the old one.
isn't that actually encourages them to learn to make many accounts
while you prohibit users from creating multiple accounts

I really don't think it is necessary.........
I'm confused thinking about your statement saying the support email address doesn't need to be displayed on the site. as we know, freebitco.in is a large and popular site that has millions of users
are you worried about something?

and you are still ignoring my point that the number of complaints this time is COMPARITIVELY minute to when other measures have been put in.
I don't ignore your point about that
I just tried to say the impact on the original users around me and also the possible effect on referrers like me.

Also the auto-blocking does not delete accounts.
still, people will be confused to submit complaints if you don't display a support email address on the site

You can say that you have got hundreds every day, but I don't think that is enough compared to the number of accounts that have been automatically blocked.
let's say half is botnets, the amount is still very much
of course I don't know the exact amount but if I look at the situation that is happening around me and also the decrease in traffic to freebitco.in, I'm sure the number of automatically blocked accounts is very much

That is only done manually when I find a case of multi-accounting abuse that I'm 100% certain about.
never be sure to 100% on anything, you can get lost

yes, but it's not the opposite of the bit in red, so it doesn't make it wrong
because you could block the range in a larger pool, which is a pool used by operators to serve domestic customers.

The pools of addresses are not mixed usage. I'm blocking ranges allocated to datacentres, VPN, and proxy services that I actually find abuse on. Domestic customers cannot be allocated addresses from those pools. The only possibility for that to happen is an inaccuracy in the database and I only rectify that if a genuine customer user comes forward and tells me what the IP address is.
I did not say that the pool of addresses was mixed.
I mean that is like the following example:

Gwaragwara ISP in Kuvukiland state has an IP address range of 1.1.0.0 to 1.10.255.255
in that ISP there is a pool of XYZ proxy server IP addresses in the range 1.7.8.0 to 1.7.200.255
then you find the IP address 1.7.8.222 and 1.7.90.244 cheating.
after that you conclude that IP addresses 1.7.0.0 to 1.7.100.255 are the IP addresses used by the proxy server and you make the system "who uses IP addresses in that range will be blocked automatically".
and unfortunately IP addresses 1.7.0.0 to 1.7.7.255 are not part of the proxy server and are used by domestic customers.
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October 30, 2018, 10:53:09 AM
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isn't that actually encourages them to learn to make many accounts
while you prohibit users from creating multiple accounts

No. Making an account to send a message doesn't encourage anyone to sign up hundreds of accounts to abuse a faucet.
People can work out how to contact us.

Gwaragwara ISP in Kuvukiland state has an IP address range of 1.1.0.0 to 1.10.255.255
in that ISP there is a pool of XYZ proxy server IP addresses in the range 1.7.8.0 to 1.7.200.255
then you find the IP address 1.7.8.222 and 1.7.90.244 cheating.
after that you conclude that IP addresses 1.7.0.0 to 1.7.100.255 are the IP addresses used by the proxy server and you make the system "who uses IP addresses in that range will be blocked automatically".
and unfortunately IP addresses 1.7.0.0 to 1.7.7.255 are not part of the proxy server and are used by domestic customers.

No. Because the IP address database would tell me the range that was allocated to proxies and I would only block that. The ranges are defined in the database not by me.

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November 06, 2018, 08:18:07 PM
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I have another doubt to see if someone can answer it. I ordered the bonus wager and I make bets but for example I have made bets of 200,000, 400,000 and I get something down but not the amount I bet, it is much less what goes down. What should be subtracted from those 400,000 if I bet them?I mean the wager bonus
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