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February 01, 2019, 12:07:55 PM
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~BTW I have a bot that will get you your 3BTC back.  Just give it 30BTC and let it go to work.  You'll get your 3BTC back in no time. Guarenteed. ~


Oh cool, this was the same guy who wanted to give me a lot of BTC to prove I can get 30x wager with my deposit. Didn't realise he was so easy with making all kinds of guaranteed claims. If he can really get back 3 BTC in no time with his bot, why is he wasting his time on this forum? I'd be whaling in las vegas with that kind of money in no time.


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February 01, 2019, 12:22:44 PM
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Oh cool, this was the same guy who wanted to give me a lot of BTC to prove I can get 30x wager with my deposit. Didn't realise he was so easy with making all kinds of guaranteed claims.

Do bots really give you money through a certain faucet? I really doubt that statement, for what I have experienced these bots are just a common junk that fools people that they can even withdraw a money without an initial deposit, Most of these things, when you're about to reach your minimum coins for withdrawal request they will certainly shutdown. Then another bot will appear and another cycle will be produced.



If he can really get back 3 BTC in no time with his bot, why is he wasting his time on this forum? I'd be whaling in las vegas with that kind of money in no time.

I won't work anymore and let this bot earn for my living expenses Tongue Everybody will get rich within days!

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February 01, 2019, 02:22:09 PM
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Oh cool, this was the same guy who wanted to give me a lot of BTC to prove I can get 30x wager with my deposit. Didn't realise he was so easy with making all kinds of guaranteed claims.

Do bots really give you money through a certain faucet? I really doubt that statement, for what I have experienced these bots are just a common junk that fools people that they can even withdraw a money without an initial deposit, Most of these things, when you're about to reach your minimum coins for withdrawal request they will certainly shutdown. Then another bot will appear and another cycle will be produced

As I got it, he talks about a martingale bot

So it is not about claiming free coins from a certain faucet (e.g. FreeBitco.in). Technically, if you have 30 BTC, you can make 3 BTC with martingale. But unless you bet high and risk losing all in a dozen of consecutive losses (which happens within literally minutes of automatic betting), that will likely take you a lifetime. So he asks you to give him 30 BTC and promises to give back some 3 BTC above that amount but doesn't specify in which amount of time. This is what we have if we assume that he is not just a scammer

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February 01, 2019, 04:11:26 PM
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Oh cool, this was the same guy who wanted to give me a lot of BTC to prove I can get 30x wager with my deposit. Didn't realise he was so easy with making all kinds of guaranteed claims.

Do bots really give you money through a certain faucet? I really doubt that statement, for what I have experienced these bots are just a common junk that fools people that they can even withdraw a money without an initial deposit, Most of these things, when you're about to reach your minimum coins for withdrawal request they will certainly shutdown. Then another bot will appear and another cycle will be produced.

I don't know the bots that are designed to reap the faucet by damaging the timer used to work afaik (although there are wayts to imporve a sites security against this so I doubt the still do).
There's also the thing if getting your to sign up under their affiliate link or getting you to sign up through their bot so they can then login to your account by using the cookie. @TheQuin do cookies expire once one logs out or not if not maybe this should be implemented?
There are gambling bots that normally have an inbuilt stop function and there are some insane people that are running them that randomely stop the bot whenever they hallucinate and see odd visions of themselves...
If you mean by a regular bot running a generic strategy like martingale then they can win but you might risk 0.1BTC+ in order to gain a satoshi...


P.S. can you slow down your avatar to about half the speed it's a little dizzying atm...

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February 01, 2019, 06:05:25 PM
Last edit: February 01, 2019, 07:11:42 PM by raven7886
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The max bet could be broken even with a person who gets lucky hitting 90%+ win couple times in a row without losing. If you have 500 bitcoin bankroll and instead of giving 10 bitcoin max and just destroy the book by making it 500 max bet because you have that much, someone with 500 bitcoins can come in and play on 50% and win and make you lose all your money. Why would it have to be about big pockets and martingale, what are they going to do with martingale that just one huge bet can't do.

If you have a big deep pocket you can just win whenever you want with the max bet and if you lose try again and eventually on a 50% bet you will get it quite quickly. Hence it makes no sense to allow all of the house bankroll to be in danger. Martingale has never worked for anyone, never, if it did then everyone would have gone with martingale constantly and bankrupt all the casinos out there.

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February 01, 2019, 06:28:24 PM
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So he asks you to give him 30 BTC and promises to give back some 3 BTC above that amount but doesn't specify in which amount of time.

No this is not what I meant.  I said give it to the bot,  which essentially means deposit it into your own account and then the bot will bet for you.  It's extremely likely that if you were to do this,  you would absolutely win at least 3BTC in profit due to the sheer size of the bankroll it's playing with.  But if you give it 30BTC and expect it to win you 90BTC and you dont have the bankroll to back it up (which would be about 300 BTC),  you're on crack.  As the saying goes, you would be better off just putting it all on black and letting it ride.  Like I said before,  martingale is a TOOL,  not a get rich quick scheme.  I dont know where all these morons get the idea that I ever state that this bot will make you rich in a day and then they make retard claims that everyone would be doing it,  yada yada yada.  I actually state the complete opposite and have and will say again that 95% of you dont have what it takes to use martingale properly (which is discipline,  intelligence, and persistence).  I'll also mention that bet size isnt the only thing that can be 'martingaled'.  Using just bet size alone is the best way to get rekt.  And the time it takes to win back 3BTC with 30BTC would depend upon how aggressive you make the settings.  The bot is versatile enough to do it in 1hr or 1yr.  The longer it takes,  the better your chances of reaching a sub 95% goal (-5% for the house edge).  Once you find a length of time that will out live you or the goal you've set (1yr for example),  you've found what you need to be playing with.  This is about being SUCCESSFUL.  Not a magic wand that lets you win every session for eternity.

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February 01, 2019, 06:42:55 PM
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I'll also mention that bet size isnt the only thing that can be 'martingaled'.  Using just bet size alone is the best way to get rekt

And what else are you going to "martingale"?

The only thing that I can think of is doubling the odds. But I don't see how it is going to help you beat the house. Anyway, as others have asked and I join them in their inquiry, why are you not using your bot at sites which have the house edge at 1%, i.e. 5 times lower than at FreeBitco.in? Most "state of the art" casinos have pretty complex and comprehensive api's that would make you insanely rich in less than no time. And to avoid being noticed and booted, you can milk a dozen casinos at once, little by little

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February 01, 2019, 06:48:30 PM
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I'll also mention that bet size isnt the only thing that can be 'martingaled'.  Using just bet size alone is the best way to get rekt

And what else are you going to "martingale"?

The only thing that I can think of is doubling the odds. But I don't see how it is going to help you beat the house. Anyway, as others have asked and I join them in their inquiry, why are you not using your bot at sites which have the house edge at 1%, i.e. 5 times lower than at FreeBitco.in? Most "state of the art" casinos have pretty complex and comprehensive api's that would make you insanely rich in less than no time. And to avoid being noticed and booted, you can milk a dozen casinos at once, little by little

No you dont "double the odds" either,  you only need to lower the odds just enough such that it covers all previous bets and to do that, you dont need to 'double' it.  I've also mentioned in the past why I specifically target Freebitco.  It's because it has the largest house edge and thus it gets hit with my public version of the bot.  I do use it on other sites when I have the need to do so but I certainly dont release those to the public.  If some whale comes along and starts using my bot,  Freebitco is going to go right down the tubes.  So to prepare for such a scenario,  I only released it for the worst house edge site with a decent BPS on the interwebs (which is freebitco).  It also has the highest BPS compared to other 4 and 5% sites as well.  The higher the BPS the better it's suited for bot use.  Simple.  Anyone who's into casinos knows what BPS is and it should not need to be explained.  If a casino wants to invite bots to it (most, if not all cheating casinos do) they will raise the BPS to attract them and thats exactly what freebitco has done.  They have also openly stated that they are in favor of dice bots which goes to explain why the BPS is what it is.  If the BPS is lowered,  then they could no longer make the claim that they are in favor of dice bots as that would actually discourage their use,  not encourage it.  I've hinted at this for over a year without actually explaining it,  but it's clear that no one here has the experience nor intelligence to get the hint.  Or maybe they have no clue what BPS is and didnt even realize thats what attracts bots.  If thats the case,  then they really dont have any business running a casino in the first place as they would get rekt unless they did some kind of cheating (which we all know they do since it's been proven that seeds are changing after rolls,  there is an entire thread about it in the scam accusations forum).

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February 01, 2019, 07:10:35 PM
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I'll also mention that bet size isnt the only thing that can be 'martingaled'.  Using just bet size alone is the best way to get rekt

And what else are you going to "martingale"?

The only thing that I can think of is doubling the odds. But I don't see how it is going to help you beat the house. Anyway, as others have asked and I join them in their inquiry, why are you not using your bot at sites which have the house edge at 1%, i.e. 5 times lower than at FreeBitco.in? Most "state of the art" casinos have pretty complex and comprehensive api's that would make you insanely rich in less than no time. And to avoid being noticed and booted, you can milk a dozen casinos at once, little by little

They have lower referral commission.

Also, no one said anything about doubling odds. You can increment an increase slowly if you start with certain odds to begin with. Multiplying both by a small amount wouldn't be a horrible idea...

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I'll also mention that bet size isnt the only thing that can be 'martingaled'.  Using just bet size alone is the best way to get rekt

And what else are you going to "martingale"?

The only thing that I can think of is doubling the odds. But I don't see how it is going to help you beat the house. Anyway, as others have asked and I join them in their inquiry, why are you not using your bot at sites which have the house edge at 1%, i.e. 5 times lower than at FreeBitco.in? Most "state of the art" casinos have pretty complex and comprehensive api's that would make you insanely rich in less than no time. And to avoid being noticed and booted, you can milk a dozen casinos at once, little by little

They have lower referral commission.

Also, no one said anything about doubling odds. You can increment an increase slowly if you start with certain odds to begin with. Multiplying both by a small amount wouldn't be a horrible idea

Well, I didn't intend it to mean like literally doubling the odds, up or down

Sorry for the confusion created, it's my fault. I meant to say you can tweak the odds in the same way as you change the bet amount, i.e. to compensate for the accumulated loss and likely to earn something. Personally, when I used martingale myself (these times are long gone), I set the odds in such a way that doubling the bet (in this case literally doubling it) would earn me twice as much as I lost on previous steps (to me, it looked like true to the game martingale). Earning just 1 satoshi as with "standard" or "official" martingale seems like a really stupid idea

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February 02, 2019, 12:49:51 PM
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Just to comment on martingaling with 1 satoshi as a stupid idea, I agree in general, but then to me, martingaling in general at any amount is a stupid idea IF the idea is to win and profit at the lowest risk.

I use martingale at 1 sat quite a lot, but only at sites where betting speed is high (usually for 1 satoshi, it's too slow and pointless). At the end of the day, perhaps best case scenario I can do half a million bets like this on a 0.01 or higher bankroll. It may or may not bust, my experience is it busts in a few days. BUT the objective is not to profit, but to delay the bust for a long as possible to get wagering amounts.

In case of Freebitcoin, it's on weekends to maximise RP and bonus. That's all Smiley Plus get those lottery tickets... you never know Wink

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February 02, 2019, 01:07:12 PM
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Just to comment on martingaling with 1 satoshi as a stupid idea, I agree in general, but then to me, martingaling in general at any amount is a stupid idea IF the idea is to win and profit at the lowest risk

I've been there, I've seen that

I used this approach a lot in the past even though I knew it was a losing strategy beforehand. So what was I hoping for really? I don't know, maybe that I will never get hit with a long enough streak of losses or whatever. I remember that I was feeling high when they finally enabled automatic betting at PrimeDice (it was version 3 if I'm not mistaken). Martingale ended for me when I finally lost like 0.3 BTC. After that, I gamble only for fun and entertainment ,and only with free money received from faucets, raindrops or promotions

In case of Freebitcoin, it's on weekends to maximise RP and bonus. That's all Smiley Plus get those lottery tickets... you never know

I thought about this but couldn't come up with anything which would make it worth the effort. Care to share your approach?

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February 02, 2019, 03:24:20 PM
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Why is everyone so hard you discuss the question about the martingale system, but no one can see that the site freebitco.in particular Mr. TheQuin, was stolen from me about 3 BTC? Is everyone believes that it is correct to steal deposits from a user who has several accounts, but who has not suffered any losses or freebitco site.in no particular Mr. TheQuin? Really it is impossible in this situation to solve a problem that to both parties it was good. Return at least 50% of the deposits, and leave the rest to the site freebitco.in for further development. I want to hear your opinion!!! Speak out on this situation
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February 02, 2019, 06:20:25 PM
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The face when you finally managed to hit the jackpot for once:

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February 02, 2019, 09:02:06 PM
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I use martingale at 1 sat quite a lot, but only at sites where betting speed is high (usually for 1 satoshi, it's too slow and pointless). At the end of the day, perhaps best case scenario I can do half a million bets like this on a 0.01 or higher bankroll. It may or may not bust, my experience is it busts in a few days. BUT the objective is not to profit, but to delay the bust for a long as possible to get wagering amounts.

Wagering amount?
For contest or something like this?
You can't win a contest with such a small base amount no?

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Just to comment on martingaling with 1 satoshi as a stupid idea, I agree in general, but then to me, martingaling in general at any amount is a stupid idea IF the idea is to win and profit at the lowest risk

I've been there, I've seen that

I used this approach a lot in the past even though I knew it was a losing strategy beforehand. So what was I hoping for really? I don't know, maybe that I will never get hit with a long enough streak of losses or whatever. I remember that I was feeling high when they finally enabled automatic betting at PrimeDice (it was version 3 if I'm not mistaken). Martingale ended for me when I finally lost like 0.3 BTC. After that, I gamble only for fun and entertainment ,and only with free money received from faucets, raindrops or promotions


Built-in martingale increase is too much, it would cost more than needed at higher loosing streak. Unless you write own script to bet on or use other bot already there from Seuntjie or broke_tradah but there is advantage and drawback of both. The earlier is open source and can gain trust from gamblers from malware but there is not enough calculation and feature of the bot later guy has. For the later, it somehow work but closed source and it is current & would't gaining trust from this community. I don't know why, but look like most of the people here defend the house, lol. Look like non-gamblers and/or people who hoping for free thing without cost/risk only.

Martingale on 1 satoshi plus profit of 1 satoshi every win, at first it look like too much risk for earning of 1 satoshi but actually it is not, due to rounding issue of the numbering system, depend on the streak you may get more than 1 satoshi profit at the time. Mixing of odds is also a point to consider, provided that the specified system is provably fair, and the numbers are from 0 to 10000. Mixing of high win chance and very low win chance will help too say 20% (less than 2000 or greater than 8000 to win) and 1% (less than 100 or greater than 9900 to win), most of the time the number would fall into 20% range and less of the time the number would fall into 1% range. You would bet on 20% most of the time, and by after random numbers of losing bet, continue to martingle with 1%.. catch up the spike to hope for a win.

For example, your 0.3 btc / 30 mil satoshi, say you are betting on 0.4% win chance or 237.50 odd. How big was the losing you've got at the time you were bursted? if you were able to scale this amount to withstand around 2800 losing streak, it is likely you would win in between.
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Why is everyone so hard you discuss the question about the martingale system, but no one can see that the site freebitco.in particular Mr. TheQuin, was stolen from me about 3 BTC? Is everyone believes that it is correct to steal deposits from a user who has several accounts, but who has not suffered any losses or freebitco site.in no particular Mr. TheQuin? Really it is impossible in this situation to solve a problem that to both parties it was good. Return at least 50% of the deposits, and leave the rest to the site freebitco.in for further development. I want to hear your opinion!!! Speak out on this situation

It is an open forum and they discuss what interests them. You've already been told countless times and heard people's opinions. Nobody thinks that if someone loses at gambling they are entitled to cheat the casino in return. I didn't steal anything from you, I caught you cheating free-rolls and referral income. Nobody thinks cheats are entitled to a refund. I can assure you no cheat that got away with a profit ever refunded anything to us.

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February 03, 2019, 06:12:58 AM
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For example, your 0.3 btc / 30 mil satoshi, say you are betting on 0.4% win chance or 237.50 odd. How big was the losing you've got at the time you were bursted? if you were able to scale this amount to withstand around 2800 losing streak, it is likely you would win in between

I've written about that above

To repeat, you either earn dust with losing streaks that are too long or end up burst pretty soon. I guess with 0.4% win chance and a losing streak of 2800, it would be equal to a win chance of 0.4x100=40% and a losing streak of 2800/100=28 rolls. But 28 losing rolls is not worth the risk as at any point you risk your whole amount while earning only dust when you win. Basically, no matter how you tweak the odds and amounts, it can always be reduced to these simple numbers (to make things easier to understand)

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February 03, 2019, 06:13:08 AM
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The face when you finally managed to hit the jackpot for once:



This is classic and I bet you a lot of people have experienced the same thing before. I usually configure a auto bet configuration, but the added cost to add the jackpots will clean you out in a matter of minutes if you not careful.

This is why I want Wetsuit to add a feature to separate your investment and gambling budget from your total bitcoins on the site. <To prevent you from accidently using those funds, but I guess he knows this happens and he has no problems with that.>  

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This is classic and I bet you a lot of people have experienced the same thing before. I usually configure a auto bet configuration, but the added cost to add the jackpots will clean you out in a matter of minutes if you not careful.

This is why I want Wetsuit to add a feature to separate your investment and gambling budget from your total bitcoins on the site. <To prevent you from accidently using those funds, but I guess he knows this happens and he has no problems with that.>   

Haha, I'm not surprised! And the chances of striking a 8,888 is pretty much like 1 in a million. Even rarer than those bet IDs ending with postfixes/ prefixes.

That's a great idea, let's see what Quin says about this. But still, there are those who get triggered during a losing streak and immediately withdraw their investment funds Grin
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