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December 13, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
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Do we have any updates on the developer on the pool issue? What exactly is broken that is causing the problem?

Personally, I think this is one of the biggest issues with the coin is that its way to difficult to mine and there is no pool. People therefore lose interest.
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December 13, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
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I think nothing is broken. Just nobody has opened a pool yet.

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December 13, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
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If I remember there was something broken in the code, which was causing the issue.
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December 13, 2013, 04:03:23 PM
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That was fixed a week ago and the client updated.

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December 13, 2013, 04:07:39 PM
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I think nothing is broken. Just nobody has opened a pool yet.
XPM pool source code is a well kept secret it seems. Pools are making a killing with the fees, so nobody wants to share it's pool code (which is bad for primecoin and also for datacoin).
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December 13, 2013, 04:09:18 PM
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Since the coins are still based on the Bitcoin API you can use the open source pool software that is used for 90% of all pools.

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December 13, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
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Since the coins are still based on the Bitcoin API you can use the open source pool software that is used for 90% of all pools.
Really ? I thought you needed to do some custom coding for the different proof of work of primecoin ....
Are you sure is that 'easy' ? Because I have a server and a little of time this weekend.
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December 13, 2013, 04:16:25 PM
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I'm not 100% sure, but some non scrypt non SHA-2 algos like the QRK algo do work with the standard pool software.

I still don't get why ypool doesn't add Datacoin. Minimal work for them, max profit.

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December 13, 2013, 04:19:32 PM
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I think you need a plugin for existing pool software to work with the prime generation and various chain lengths.  Outside my scope.

There is definitely some pool out there right now. Rpool seems to be dead, so am not sure who this belongs to:

http://www.chainbrowser.com/datacoin/tx/0c92df11e6721becb979b80021e6c3127e71f498a916295d525155fa6d5633d2/

Possibly ypool created a small pool on their end for certain people?
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December 13, 2013, 04:45:40 PM
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I think you need a plugin for existing pool software to work with the prime generation and various chain lengths.  Outside my scope.

There is definitely some pool out there right now. Rpool seems to be dead, so am not sure who this belongs to:

http://www.chainbrowser.com/datacoin/tx/0c92df11e6721becb979b80021e6c3127e71f498a916295d525155fa6d5633d2/

Possibly ypool created a small pool on their end for certain people?

Plugin - yes, we need anti-cheating pool solution (neede only for Primecoin and its forks) and some python libraries to be rewritten.

Ypool - don't know, I asked them, yvg1900 told me that he has private pool, but without anti-cheating as I understood. so such pool cannot be released to public - cheaters are always around us.

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December 13, 2013, 05:23:14 PM
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I tried to solo mine for about 12 hours but i got no block Sad But anyway its just a plain laptop.

Ye definitely need a pool!

Btw is there a guide to mine with DO with the lateste miner or something? Thanks.
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December 13, 2013, 05:33:03 PM
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I tried to solo mine for about 12 hours but i got no block Sad But anyway its just a plain laptop.

Ye definitely need a pool!

Btw is there a guide to mine with DO with the lateste miner or something? Thanks.
new external miner still has issues under Linux, but Mumus is working at that
and laptop - it was not very useful even at first days of mining, and now it really cannot hit blocks Sad

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December 13, 2013, 06:18:10 PM
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December 13, 2013, 10:15:56 PM
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Can I get datacoin solo mining with an AMD Sempron LE-1250 2.20 GHz? Is there pool mining? Is the windows pre-compiled qt really that much worse for mining than the high powered source? Thanks! Datacoin sounds very interesting...
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December 13, 2013, 10:21:32 PM
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Can I get datacoin solo mining with an AMD Sempron LE-1250 2.20 GHz? Is there pool mining? Is the windows pre-compiled qt really that much worse for mining than the high powered source? Thanks! Datacoin sounds very interesting...
Just now there is no sense to mine with sempron. You can buy few DTC while they're cheap (1$ per dtc, and totally only 1.2 million DTC). Or you can setup a private pool with 'external miner' instructions

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December 13, 2013, 10:24:29 PM
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Can I get datacoin solo mining with an AMD Sempron LE-1250 2.20 GHz? Is there pool mining? Is the windows pre-compiled qt really that much worse for mining than the high powered source? Thanks! Datacoin sounds very interesting...
Just now there is no sense to mine with sempron. You can buy few DTC while they're cheap (1$ per dtc, and totally only 1.2 million DTC). Or you can setup a private pool with 'external miner' instructions
What about quad-core i3?
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December 13, 2013, 10:26:04 PM
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Can I get datacoin solo mining with an AMD Sempron LE-1250 2.20 GHz? Is there pool mining? Is the windows pre-compiled qt really that much worse for mining than the high powered source? Thanks! Datacoin sounds very interesting...
Just now there is no sense to mine with sempron. You can buy few DTC while they're cheap (1$ per dtc, and totally only 1.2 million DTC). Or you can setup a private pool with 'external miner' instructions
What about quad-core i3?
It's better, but the best will be to have several i3's mining and pointing to one wallet Wink

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December 13, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
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I think that datacoin needs to take a look at more successful anonymous p2p data services like perfect dark and share and take a second look at encryption, here is why. Lets say for the sake of argument no matter what data host you use there will be illegal content on it somewhere, snuff videos, cp, you name it. Regardless of this fact most services and networks can exist due to either of 1 of 3 reasons. The first is that someone can moderate and remove things, hence with datacoin we can't have that lest we invite other problems. The second is that not everyone knows what data they are downloading, allowing for plausible deniability as to the fact that someone may or may not possess illegal material and would not know if they did unless they were specifically looking for it. Furthermore the data is spread out, by that I mean the data is distributed to allow for redundancy and retrieval when needed and you might have parts of what you wanted without even knowing it. The third is that the data is hosted by person x and can be shared with person y via a torrent or magnet link or some other decentralized fashion. As it stands I doubt many of you know of perfect dark or share or else you would of first been demanding encryption and compression on all data which is why NO serious POOL will ever pick this coin up because it could be illegal based on country x's laws due to data y's contents. If someone wanted to be clever and develop a torrent hybrid of the client qt with bittorrent integration then we could move data around in encrypted chunks and reward people based on how much data they hold (you could set a max GB in the client) and how much they seed, much like in perfect dark and share where the more you host and seed the quicker you get your downloads and the higher priority you would be in queues, except for datacoin this could be done via proof of stake on data and transactions in order to secure that you are a reliable node. Encryption should be the first concern as unencrypted data is a cardinal sin, that and combined with mandatory user downloads of all data essentially explains why datacoin hasn't been able to overtake Primecoin when in theory this should be the most useful coin around. Either way you need to pick a plan, torrent hosting, dispersed data chunks, encrypted data archiving service, all in all you just need to have a plan because as it stands nobody is going to want to know that one day they will be forced to download CP and they can do nothing about it other than sell their coins and say fuck this.
Please note I REALLY want datacoin to succeed, I have a couple of them myself but I don't want it to be from hype and pumping, I want it to be from this coin proving that cryptocurrencies aren't for dipshits and retards looking for a quick buck.
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December 13, 2013, 10:53:45 PM
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Got you point. Thank you for great analysis! I saw this idea several times past  last days, so I think that it really will help Datacoin. But please understand us: there is still much work around (at least pools and improved wallet, plus 'big file' functionality). As soon as we finish with it, it will be possible to implement something like you say. Datacoin will grow, it is attending developers, so many of community's wishes will be implemented. As I see, this 'issue' is #1 (except pools and wallets)

edited: but anyway - remember: it's possible to add illegal content even in Bitcoin blockchain.

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December 14, 2013, 12:17:02 AM
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Got you point. Thank you for great analysis! I saw this idea several times past  last days, so I think that it really will help Datacoin. But please understand us: there is still much work around (at least pools and improved wallet, plus 'big file' functionality). As soon as we finish with it, it will be possible to implement something like you say. Datacoin will grow, it is attending developers, so many of community's wishes will be implemented. As I see, this 'issue' is #1 (except pools and wallets)
Thanks for the responce but that isn't very specific regarding the details, thats more of a press release type statement that companies give out when they have nothing better to say and can't afford to ignore one of the few people actually paying attention.
edited: but anyway - remember: it's possible to add illegal content even in Bitcoin blockchain.
Yes it is, but then again bitcoin wasn't founded on the idea of hosting data in the blockchain nor did it name itself after this idea. Hence I would hope that oh IDK something called Datacoin would have a better idea about how to handle data hosting than to simply say "well shit man, I guess the blockchain is as good as it gets". You know what isn't anonymous about datacoin, the fact that everyone who uses it is equally guilty through literal guilt by association you could be tried and arrested for supporting datacoin due to the way that it has structured itself which is why no pool is going to touch this potentially amazing coin due to a complete disconnect between the developer and the software he is playing with.
All in all, if you want to store data and download things anonymously go use perfect dark (nodes) it is like datacoin but free and without a filesize cap.
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