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December 28, 2013, 04:54:21 AM
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I've restarted start.jar a number of times, even after deleting blocks.nxt and transactions.nxt, and I still never get past block 22268. If I sit on it long enough, I can see more than 10 active peers and more than 500 known peers. Why am I repeatedly getting stuck on the same old block?

hey spartacuss, try redownloading the nxt folder, cd to it, and run java -jar from there..

seems to be the best way to clear out the stuck pipes

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December 28, 2013, 04:57:13 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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December 28, 2013, 05:00:13 AM
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26442      2159498187382012684      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 11:59:23   
      
      8      1'085'291 + 10      1'140 B   
      
      1      10843634880494821432      498 %

26443      2159498187382012684      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 12:00:00   
      
      0      0 + 0      0 B   
      
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26444      2159498187382012684      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 12:00:20   
      
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December 28, 2013, 05:02:06 AM
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where i can download the newest nxt version? the 0.4.5 seems not update the data and work.

https://mega.co.nz/#!gNA0mCKA!azSSZ3kYXEb2PchuNcmGZ3FZDH4btrAp22cg0ApBiBk


 I haven't had any issues since upgrading from 4.5 to 4.7e, so you should be good to go after that.

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December 28, 2013, 05:02:16 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

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December 28, 2013, 05:03:58 AM
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26442      2159498187382012684      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 11:59:23   
      
      8      1'085'291 + 10      1'140 B   
      
      1      10843634880494821432      498 %

26443      2159498187382012684      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 12:00:00   
      
      0      0 + 0      0 B   
      
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26444      2159498187382012684      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 12:00:20   
      
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those are the same as my recently rebooted VPS, local client not so lucky

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December 28, 2013, 05:07:21 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

well idk exactly what the code looks like but ideally even if you have 100 peers who all say the block chain is 2000 blocks long, if only 1 person says the blockchain is 2100 blocks long, you ping that person, ask for proof and if he supplies proof than the other 100 dont matter, you just ignore them. If i only have 1 known peer than i would have to be getting my other peers through him. even if he supplied me with 100 peers who all had the wrong chain it wouldnt matter because i would KNOW that i was connected to him and i would know that he had the right chain.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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December 28, 2013, 05:08:05 AM
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those are the same as my recently rebooted VPS, local client not so lucky
Blockchain explorer is here too.

26445      10105875265190846103      28 Дeкaбpь 2013 г. 12:07:53   
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December 28, 2013, 05:11:27 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

well idk exactly what the code looks like but ideally even if you have 100 peers who all say the block chain is 2000 blocks long, if only 1 person says the blockchain is 2100 blocks long, you ping that person, ask for proof and if he supplies proof than the other 100 dont matter, you just ignore them. If i only have 1 known peer than i would have to be getting my other peers through him. even if he supplied me with 100 peers who all had the wrong chain it wouldnt matter because i would KNOW that i was connected to him and i would know that he had the right chain.

yeah and if he was faking it and you believed him and did a transaction then you lose. how would you KNOW he had the right chain? because he said so?

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December 28, 2013, 05:13:05 AM
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My blocks weren't updating, so I re-downloaded from https://mega.co.nz/#!gNA0mCKA!azSSZ3kYXEb2PchuNcmGZ3FZDH4btrAp22cg0ApBiBk

I'm now using just wellKnownPeers <param-value>78.46.63.221; 95.85.22.142</param-value> - this worked instantly!

The lastest copy-paste wellKnownPeers seems to include bad peers...??
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December 28, 2013, 05:14:04 AM
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alias do not work for me this really really really sux

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December 28, 2013, 05:16:28 AM
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You guys are all doing an awesome job. It's so hard to keep up with this forum even

I've got a handful of nodes running, including 2 -8giggers, but they still suffer from leaky RAM>

anyone geekier than me got some ideas for cron job to restart it every few hours?

Also, theres so much that needs to be wiki'd here. man alive.

working list for wiki topics
vps including, hosts, setup, management,
rasp pi
matrix has you
known_hosts list

100nxt bounty to for each of those pages! lets do it.

It seems that I can't add topic into the Wiki. "Matrix has you" goes here:

Why "Matrix has you"

Nxt default secure api call is set to be only connect from the local host, so the connection to the remote client will be directed to "Matrix to you" page. If you want to connect your remote public Node nxt client, please set the configuration file as following. Change "allowedUserHosts" parameter at nxt/webapp/root/WEB-INF/web.xml from "127.0.0.1; localhost; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1" to "*", so any connection to you client can be accepted. If you just let yourself to connect to your public client, just add your local IP address to "allowedUserHosts". If you don't know your local IP address, just firstly change "allowedUserHosts" to "*" and connect to your remote public client, and then get your local IP address from "http://RemoteIPAddress:7874/nxt?requestType=getMyInfo", and then change "allowedUserHosts" from "*" to your local IP address.

Donation is welcome. Nxt account: 17959837214177417816

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December 28, 2013, 05:17:16 AM
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where i can download the newest nxt version? the 0.4.5 seems not update the data and work.

https://mega.co.nz/#!gNA0mCKA!azSSZ3kYXEb2PchuNcmGZ3FZDH4btrAp22cg0ApBiBk


 I haven't had any issues since upgrading from 4.5 to 4.7e, so you should be good to go after that.

thx. 0.4.7e is work.
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December 28, 2013, 05:18:18 AM
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I've restarted start.jar a number of times, even after deleting blocks.nxt and transactions.nxt, and I still never get past block 22268. If I sit on it long enough, I can see more than 10 active peers and more than 500 known peers. Why am I repeatedly getting stuck on the same old block?

hey spartacuss, try redownloading the nxt folder, cd to it, and run java -jar from there..

seems to be the best way to clear out the stuck pipes

Thank you, brooklynbtc. I'm unstuck now. No telling if I'm on the right chain, but we'll see in a moment, I reckon.

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December 28, 2013, 05:20:43 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

well idk exactly what the code looks like but ideally even if you have 100 peers who all say the block chain is 2000 blocks long, if only 1 person says the blockchain is 2100 blocks long, you ping that person, ask for proof and if he supplies proof than the other 100 dont matter, you just ignore them. If i only have 1 known peer than i would have to be getting my other peers through him. even if he supplied me with 100 peers who all had the wrong chain it wouldnt matter because i would KNOW that i was connected to him and i would know that he had the right chain.

yeah and if he was faking it and you believed him and did a transaction then you lose. how would you KNOW he had the right chain? because he said so?

it is possible that he would only be sharing phony peers with you and that there was actually a longer chain out there somewhere that he wouldnt tell you about. still i dont understand how i can be connecting to so many of the peers from this list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4178253#msg4178253 and not a SINGLE one of them knows of a SINGLE chain that is longer than 26244 blocks. its not a democracy, you dont need some majority to agree on what is the right chain, all i need is ONE person to be able to tell me about a longer chain. i just dont get it.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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December 28, 2013, 05:24:45 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

well idk exactly what the code looks like but ideally even if you have 100 peers who all say the block chain is 2000 blocks long, if only 1 person says the blockchain is 2100 blocks long, you ping that person, ask for proof and if he supplies proof than the other 100 dont matter, you just ignore them. If i only have 1 known peer than i would have to be getting my other peers through him. even if he supplied me with 100 peers who all had the wrong chain it wouldnt matter because i would KNOW that i was connected to him and i would know that he had the right chain.

yeah and if he was faking it and you believed him and did a transaction then you lose. how would you KNOW he had the right chain? because he said so?



it is possible that he would only be sharing phony peers with you and that there was actually a longer chain out there somewhere that he wouldnt tell you about. still i dont understand how i can be connecting to so many of the peers from this list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4178253#msg4178253 and not a SINGLE one of them knows of a SINGLE chain that is longer than 26244 blocks. its not a democracy, you dont need some majority to agree on what is the right chain, all i need is ONE person to be able to tell me about a longer chain. i just dont get it.

like I said, alpha. needs work. java app leaks RAM, so the nodes all get bloated and don't refresh. It's amazing what has been accomplished in a month, and CfB is killing it. This is still not yet functional for payments, nor should we expect it to be. help the community by spreading the word and gladly reinstalling it a couple times a day. stay fresh on the build and don't expect stability or to be forging blocks to get rich.. yet..

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December 28, 2013, 05:26:03 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

well idk exactly what the code looks like but ideally even if you have 100 peers who all say the block chain is 2000 blocks long, if only 1 person says the blockchain is 2100 blocks long, you ping that person, ask for proof and if he supplies proof than the other 100 dont matter, you just ignore them. If i only have 1 known peer than i would have to be getting my other peers through him. even if he supplied me with 100 peers who all had the wrong chain it wouldnt matter because i would KNOW that i was connected to him and i would know that he had the right chain.

yeah and if he was faking it and you believed him and did a transaction then you lose. how would you KNOW he had the right chain? because he said so?



it is possible that he would only be sharing phony peers with you and that there was actually a longer chain out there somewhere that he wouldnt tell you about. still i dont understand how i can be connecting to so many of the peers from this list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4178253#msg4178253 and not a SINGLE one of them knows of a SINGLE chain that is longer than 26244 blocks. its not a democracy, you dont need some majority to agree on what is the right chain, all i need is ONE person to be able to tell me about a longer chain. i just dont get it.

like I said, alpha. needs work. java app leaks RAM, so the nodes all get bloated and don't refresh. It's amazing what has been accomplished in a month, and CfB is killing it. This is still not yet functional for payments, nor should we expect it to be. help the community by spreading the word and gladly reinstalling it a couple times a day. stay fresh on the build and don't expect stability or to be forging blocks to get rich.. yet..

that makes sense. thankyou for helping me calm down Smiley i just really want to get on the right chain

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December 28, 2013, 05:27:53 AM
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alias do not work for me this really really really sux

What's happening when you try to pick one? how is it not working?

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December 28, 2013, 05:37:17 AM
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hey i have an idea. what if someone who is fully caught up posted their ip address here and i set that as my only well known peer. then i would have to get the right blockchain. right?

only if you banned all other peers, and just because someone is caught up doesn't mean they wont prove to have been on a fork later..  let the system figure itself out and remember, this is alpha.

well idk exactly what the code looks like but ideally even if you have 100 peers who all say the block chain is 2000 blocks long, if only 1 person says the blockchain is 2100 blocks long, you ping that person, ask for proof and if he supplies proof than the other 100 dont matter, you just ignore them. If i only have 1 known peer than i would have to be getting my other peers through him. even if he supplied me with 100 peers who all had the wrong chain it wouldnt matter because i would KNOW that i was connected to him and i would know that he had the right chain.

yeah and if he was faking it and you believed him and did a transaction then you lose. how would you KNOW he had the right chain? because he said so?



it is possible that he would only be sharing phony peers with you and that there was actually a longer chain out there somewhere that he wouldnt tell you about. still i dont understand how i can be connecting to so many of the peers from this list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4178253#msg4178253 and not a SINGLE one of them knows of a SINGLE chain that is longer than 26244 blocks. its not a democracy, you dont need some majority to agree on what is the right chain, all i need is ONE person to be able to tell me about a longer chain. i just dont get it.

like I said, alpha. needs work. java app leaks RAM, so the nodes all get bloated and don't refresh. It's amazing what has been accomplished in a month, and CfB is killing it. This is still not yet functional for payments, nor should we expect it to be. help the community by spreading the word and gladly reinstalling it a couple times a day. stay fresh on the build and don't expect stability or to be forging blocks to get rich.. yet..

that makes sense. thankyou for helping me calm down Smiley i just really want to get on the right chain

redownload, cd to that dir, and start fresh. you will download the whole chain. problem with bad chains, is that all your peers are probably on the same chain as you, or clogged up RAM and zombies stealing BW.  new install takes the proper chain, from working nodes

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December 28, 2013, 05:38:08 AM
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yes it is a really problem i hope developer can solve it. several my aliases transactions have done and the record is listed in the account. but i cant find any alias in my account. it seems just the transaction not happpened but the fee is gone.
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