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December 27, 2013, 04:58:36 AM
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The devs are just waiting for the price to go up for that.
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December 27, 2013, 05:07:09 AM
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Skynet is referenced that way a lot.

What we really need to do is get nodes running on tiny powerful always connected to the Internet devices that everyone carries around all day......phones.

Shouldn't be to hard on Android devices since they run Java anyway.


Anonymous messaging with alias should solve this....search with Alias is already in the android app....i think someone is working on iPad & iPhone app as well.


Android App:

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105

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December 27, 2013, 05:18:47 AM
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With the Raspberry Pi  experience I think it would be wise to be smartphone centric there is a lot of smartphones in the world with great distribution systems called App stores already in place.


If we can refine Nxt client to optimally run on smartphones then we can greatly scale the number of nodes in the network.


But for smartphones to run as nodes we need to have an amazing social feature for the general public to us on a daily basis....Anonymous Messaging with alias from your smartphone.

There is real demand for this....example bittorrent just launched an anonymous messaging service in alpha  a few days ago.


We should beat them to the punch....we already have a working android app with Alias search.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105


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December 27, 2013, 05:33:11 AM
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With the Raspberry Pi  experience I think it would be wise to be smartphone centric there is a lot of smartphones in the world with great distribution systems called App stores already in place.


If we can refine Nxt client to optimally run on smartphones then we can greatly scale the number of nodes in the network.


But for smartphones to run as nodes we need to have an amazing social feature for the general public to us on a daily basis....Anonymous Messaging with alias from your smartphone.

There is real demand for this....example bittorrent just launched an anonymous messaging service in alpha  a few days ago.


We should beat them to the punch....we already have a working android app with Alias search.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105



you forgot that a good android client renders all sticks running android a perfect candidate as well.

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December 27, 2013, 05:35:09 AM
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With the Raspberry Pi  experience I think it would be wise to be smartphone centric there is a lot of smartphones in the world with great distribution systems called App stores already in place.


If we can refine Nxt client to optimally run on smartphones then we can greatly scale the number of nodes in the network.


But for smartphones to run as nodes we need to have an amazing social feature for the general public to us on a daily basis....Anonymous Messaging with alias from your smartphone.

There is real demand for this....example bittorrent just launched an anonymous messaging service in alpha  a few days ago.


We should beat them to the punch....we already have a working android app with Alias search.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.msg12105.html#msg12105



you forgot that a good android client renders all sticks running android a perfect candidate as well.

what about battery life that might pose a problem for device owners

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December 27, 2013, 05:42:01 AM
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what about battery life that might pose a problem for device owners
It is PoS system, probably not very angry for battery power.
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December 27, 2013, 05:48:51 AM
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what about battery life that might pose a problem for device owners
It is PoS system, probably not very angry for battery power.

there's a lot of android devices in the world at presently and they keep getting more powerful day by day....Nxt nodes could easily cross a million.


If i'm correct Anonymous messaging is planned to be launched in a matter of weeks.


There's a guy running the current android app on his nexus 7 tablet...i already asked his feedback regarding battery drain...should have his reply soon.





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December 27, 2013, 05:50:50 AM
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Feature request for te future:

Ability to write a transaction to the blockchain that the presence of would prevent transfer of funds from your account until you write another transaction later to the blockchain that would allow 'unlocking'

Seems like this wouldn't be impossible
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December 27, 2013, 05:53:47 AM
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Feature request for te future:

Ability to write a transaction to the blockchain that the presence of would prevent transfer of funds from your account until you write another transaction later to the blockchain that would allow 'unlocking'

Seems like this wouldn't be impossible
I assume you mean to make both transactions from account not being locked/unlocked. How would the network know whether you own the account you're trying to lock without compromising security? I think this feature would require a complete rewrite Tongue
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December 27, 2013, 05:55:40 AM
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Just got feedback on the current android app with Alias seach:


Nexus 7 tablet

Regarding battery drain....No, absolutely. The application will not forge or mine simply allows a quick view of the balance of the accounts. Out an agenda and other things. Is not persistent nor generates notifications. I like to see the balance of my accounts. Not need the master password, the account number only.


@CFB ....is the above Nxt node set-up helping the network in anyway?



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December 27, 2013, 05:59:33 AM
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EDIT: About the battery life:

A full client would need to be constantly uploading and downloading data whether it's forging or not. This will not only keep the CPU awake most of the time but also have the radio online 24/7.

It may not be as bad as making a phone call but not far from it either.
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December 27, 2013, 06:01:26 AM
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CfB, a new topic for your consideration.  Is there a way to mod the next version of the NXT client/server software (0.4.8?) to identify whether on not it is running on a Raspberry Pi and perhaps even put out some sort of visual designator in the peer field of the client so you can tell how many Raspberry Pis are running in the wild?  Such info could be of great and growing interest in the future, perhaps even convincing the bad guys to give up DDoS when they see for themselves that NXT can deploy more nodes for $40 each than they can to attack.

Check this article and think about it.  If NXT is running on an ARMv6, it's running on a Pi.  Perhaps a nice raspberry colored dot could be used to show this?

http://htpcbuild.com/hardware/standalone-htpc-build/raspberry-pi-htpc/raspberry-pi-codec-license-install/

I'm adding a special parameter to identify Raspberry Pis.
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December 27, 2013, 06:05:48 AM
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EDIT: About the battery life:

A full client would need to be constantly uploading and downloading data whether it's forging or not. This will not only keep the CPU awake most of the time but also have the radio online 24/7.

It may not be as bad as making a phone call but not far from it either.

so talk time would be a good indicator of how long the battery would last running the full client.


EDIT: I don;t think this battery thing would be a problem on the new 64 bit -- iPad air or recently released tablets.



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December 27, 2013, 06:10:18 AM
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CfB, a new topic for your consideration.  Is there a way to mod the next version of the NXT client/server software (0.4.8?) to identify whether on not it is running on a Raspberry Pi and perhaps even put out some sort of visual designator in the peer field of the client so you can tell how many Raspberry Pis are running in the wild?  Such info could be of great and growing interest in the future, perhaps even convincing the bad guys to give up DDoS when they see for themselves that NXT can deploy more nodes for $40 each than they can to attack.

Check this article and think about it.  If NXT is running on an ARMv6, it's running on a Pi.  Perhaps a nice raspberry colored dot could be used to show this?

http://htpcbuild.com/hardware/standalone-htpc-build/raspberry-pi-htpc/raspberry-pi-codec-license-install/

I'm adding a special parameter to identify Raspberry Pis.

what about android devices?


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December 27, 2013, 06:14:09 AM
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so talk time would be a good indicator of how long the battery would last running the full client.

EDIT: I don;t think this battery thing would be a problem on the new 64 bit -- iPad air or recently released tablets.
That could be feasible. Tablets have enormous batteries these days and low power cores on the side of main CPU for simple tasks.

Compared to tablet's screen nxt is probably not very power-hungry  Cheesy
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December 27, 2013, 06:15:23 AM
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so talk time would be a good indicator of how long the battery would last running the full client.

EDIT: I don;t think this battery thing would be a problem on the new 64 bit -- iPad air or recently released tablets.
That could be feasible. Tablets have enormous batteries these days and low power cores on the side of main CPU for simple tasks.

Compared to tablet's screen nxt is probably not very power-hungry  Cheesy

ANONYMOUS MESSAGING   Wink


Edit: Could Nxt run in the background even if the screen was sleeping?.....what about data would Nxt eat into Data plans?

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December 27, 2013, 06:23:11 AM
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Using portforward, a dyn DNS service and updating hallmark and address in the config on every IP change should work... Inconvenient, but doable.

there is no need to update hallmark and address on every ip change,
you generate hallmark against a domain, you put domain as myaddress and that hallmark into config, that's all.

I changed my domain NS to afraid.org, and then add second domain. However, I need to fill the IP address, but the IP address is dynamic. So I'm wondering I misunderstand something.

I also downloaded the client for DDNS, but don't know how to use it. The simple logic I think is, the client detect the IP every for example 5 minutes, and then update it to afraid database, so the associated secondary domain name will be directed to my local real dyanamic IP address.

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December 27, 2013, 06:23:35 AM
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Feature request for te future:

Ability to write a transaction to the blockchain that the presence of would prevent transfer of funds from your account until you write another transaction later to the blockchain that would allow 'unlocking'

Seems like this wouldn't be impossible
I assume you mean to make both transactions from account not being locked/unlocked. How would the network know whether you own the account you're trying to lock without compromising security? I think this feature would require a complete rewrite Tongue

Yes, would be fairly complex, maybe a hash of a second passphrase with something as the locking mechanism, and would be unlocked by hashing the second passphrase with the private key.

But this seems to imply a PKI type setup and Im not sure that curve/sha256 would do the trick or not.

But something along those lines would be EXTREMELY USEFUL.  But I may just be smart enough here to prove how dumb I am... Im no dev/coder.
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December 27, 2013, 06:25:34 AM
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Yes, there can be battery drain because of constant network activity. Probably, android client should strictly limit number of outbound connections, but I think it's acceptable to network because of potentially gigantic number of devices.
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December 27, 2013, 06:26:02 AM
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Is there a bug with the client ticker??

I own 1 million Nxt and my client has run for 12 hours. It started off saying that there were 10+ hours to generate a block, but basically for the last 12 hours the ticker has fluctuated from 15 minutes until to 12+ hours until. Currently it says 7+ hours.

What the heck is up with this thing? And it isn't new peers coming onto the network, because I have been watching.
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