NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[msin]

Hi guys,

We would need some PR and marketing on big, trusted sites like Yahoo Financials or Financial Times Online or whatever. There is a bounty for it. Does anyone know about someone having the power to do it? The last time, when the price hit it's highest we had some media coverage (and the alias feature added) which helped to get new Nxters on the boat.

What we need is a Nxt SR market, that would really drive the price of Nxt  Nxt has its upswing on new features released and usability.  I think the market will take care of itself if we have a fully functioning client (nexern).  We really need something to talk with the media about, at this point we have a relatively unstable client with a huge list of potential features, need to be patient.

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[opticalcarrier]

I'm working on setting up a news site, purchased nxtnews.co and of course the alias..

setting up a host and getting wordpress installed.  plan on an honest, unfiltered outlet for articles, charts, and trends.

if anyone had any suggestions or wants to contribute, please let me know

We do have http://info.nxtcrypto.org as our news site that is updated very regularly.  also there is a forum for news items discussion at https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewforum.php?f=49  please give it another shot - we've recently changed the site look.

We're always happy for increased contribution in the forums!

Hey opticalcarrier, thanks for those links, I know about nxtcrypto and have even contributed articles, but there is some biased editing going on there.  i had articles killed on nxt gambling sites and more importantly on dgex adding fees. these are important things for the community to know, and its not acceptable to just pretend all is hunky dory.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I think we as investors need to full story.

I find it very strange that a thread on dgex adding fees was deleted on nxtcrypto.org  Can you tell me when this happened and your user ID there?  I will track it down, there are only few people there with those permissions and it wasnt me

hey OC, not on forums, but on the news site. I submitted and was told they didnt want to publish these kinds of articles.

can you message to me what you posteD?

[davethetrousers]

Thank you very much! only some problem with java sometimes but i really love your works!

And I'll even update it very, very soon, I promise.

[mr_random]

Hi guys,

We would need some PR and marketing on big, trusted sites like Yahoo Financials or Financial Times Online or whatever. There is a bounty for it. Does anyone know about someone having the power to do it? The last time, when the price hit it's highest we had some media coverage (and the alias feature added) which helped to get new Nxters on the boat.

What we need is a Nxt SR market, that would really drive the price of Nxt  Nxt has its upswing on new features released and usability.  I think the market will take care of itself if we have a fully functioning client (nexern).  We really need something to talk with the media about, at this point we have a relatively unstable client with a huge list of potential features, need to be patient.

I agree that we shouldn't worry much about marketing right now.

[NxtChg]

We would need some PR and marketing on big, trusted sites like Yahoo Financials or Financial Times Online or whatever. There is a bounty for it. Does anyone know about someone having the power to do it? The last time, when the price hit it's highest we had some media coverage (and the alias feature added) which helped to get new Nxters on the boat.

Just please don't do it until major bugs are fixed and address checksums are implemented.

Otherwise numerous reports of people losing money will be enough to bury Nxt forever

[NxtChg]

What we need is a Nxt SR market

True that. I think SR gave Bitcoin the much needed baseline to survive...

[mcjavar]

Hi guys,

We would need some PR and marketing on big, trusted sites like Yahoo Financials or Financial Times Online or whatever. There is a bounty for it. Does anyone know about someone having the power to do it? The last time, when the price hit it's highest we had some media coverage (and the alias feature added) which helped to get new Nxters on the boat.

What we need is a Nxt SR market, that would really drive the price of Nxt  Nxt has its upswing on new features released and usability.  I think the market will take care of itself if we have a fully functioning client (nexern).  We really need something to talk with the media about, at this point we have a relatively unstable client with a huge list of potential features, need to be patient.

I agree that we shouldn't worry much about marketing right now.

I think that it should be a continuous task to update the media about Nxt and the news around it.

[bitcoinpaul]

I post a few days ago in nexcoin.org that aws.amazon.com cloud gives 1 year free micro t1 VPS
I have a windows one free and now I added onepaid both with slightly more than 600mb ram. It seems that the nxt nodes run ok on them. I don't have them hallmarked but I thought we run as many like them as we could to support the stability.

It costs 0 for 1 year.
Go make accounts in aws.amazon.com and set up a VPS with nxt node.
You need to modify the web.xml
         <param-name>myAddress</param-name>
         <param-value>PUT THE VPS IP HERE</param-value>

Don't put money to fogrge just run nxt client.

Just running nxt node (client) with 0 nxt in it will help the stability right?? or am I confused again!!!!

Nice!?!

[abuelau]

Announcing the MyNxt.info block explorer

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer

I thought it would be good to have another option for a block explorer. This one is simpler than the existing block explorer and I intend to keep it this way, but I think it is useful for most tasks.

Features:

- block details
- account details
- transaction details
- latest blocks
- latest transactions

I will be adding block/account/transaction search functionality later today.

It is still pretty much alpha software, I am playing with some of the parameters and changing things but I would appreciate if people could take a look and give me feedback. Let me know if you find any problems/bugs/etc.

Thanks for everyone that tested mynxt.info and helped me find some annoying bugs. I have corrected several of them and made some speed and reliability improvements.

I consider the software now to be Beta, I have created a new forum thread to discuss existing and future features, it can be found here: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2607.0.html

[opticalcarrier]

Is there any type of leadership in this project that is going to say, X is the official forum. The most authentic information is here at X. Or are we just going to let people blindly navigate this "de-centralized" fairyland because "screw centralization"?

Im the one behind the whole 'family' of sites in the "NXT Foundation" that 2Kool4Skewl and I conceptualized. That said, I cannot agree with a previous poster that said that forums.nxtcrypto.org are the "official" forums as we do want decentralization here.

We do also want, however, a clear face of representation of NXT to the world, which is why I and 3 other people are cooperating in the "NXT Foundation"  (www, info, and forums host sites under the nxtcrypto.org domain.  I simply admin DNS for the domain so there is as much decentralization as possible)

Graviton was offered the opportunity to change his site over from nextcoin.org to nxtcrypto.org but he elected to control things there as he saw fit, so btc24 at nxtalk.org agreed to cooperate with us and changed his site over to become forums.nxtcrypto.org  - So everyone please use which ever forums you see fit. 

Whatever your personal opinion of Graviton is, it cannot be denied that his exchange and forums were no less than invaluable for spreading NXT.

I might add that the people runnign the individual sites www info and forums are running it out of their own pocket, and I dont believe any of them are original stakeholders (neither am I)

Yes, like someone else had stated, we just stepped up to do a job that needed to be done.

In the interest of time this is a terrible, terrible idea organizationally and strategically if NXT is to succeed in any sort of meaningful way.

you sorely underestimate the amount of time that me and those 3 other people are spending on the info/www/forums sites of nxtcrypto.org.

You just may not be aware of the resources you have available?  visit forums.nxtcrypt.org and start speaking out!

[utopianfuture]

but trusting and giving up all decisions to a certain specialist who decides everything certainly is.

Why certain specialist (and you meant "black box" mind)? Trusted transparent enough core, if someone start to act weird, community or split up or find/form/merge around another trusted core. It's wotking with any P2P-system.

That is to your friend who you seem to be in an agreement with.

What's your point? I see no scenarios, where P2P-system can grow without built-out center. It can be very big (in amount of people), but still very well bounded and divided from all users of system. And, yes, GVS doesn't solve this problem, after decision was made, someone'd do it, and, say, core dev (if there's still no NxtPolice) simply can go away with personal disagreement. So again: Why?

Which problem can be solved with Global Voting, but can not be solved with actions of people?

Give me your solution to my global voting issue earlier? Any feature similar to the voting system would benefit from a voting system. You don't know what kind of feature is going to be built upon the NXT protocol yet.

[utopianfuture]

We would need some PR and marketing on big, trusted sites like Yahoo Financials or Financial Times Online or whatever. There is a bounty for it. Does anyone know about someone having the power to do it? The last time, when the price hit it's highest we had some media coverage (and the alias feature added) which helped to get new Nxters on the boat.

Just please don't do it until major bugs are fixed and address checksums are implemented.

Otherwise numerous reports of people losing money will be enough to bury Nxt forever

Agree.

[msin]

I post a few days ago in nexcoin.org that aws.amazon.com cloud gives 1 year free micro t1 VPS
I have a windows one free and now I added onepaid both with slightly more than 600mb ram. It seems that the nxt nodes run ok on them. I don't have them hallmarked but I thought we run as many like them as we could to support the stability.

It costs 0 for 1 year.
Go make accounts in aws.amazon.com and set up a VPS with nxt node.
You need to modify the web.xml
         <param-name>myAddress</param-name>
         <param-value>PUT THE VPS IP HERE</param-value>

Don't put money to fogrge just run nxt client.

Just running nxt node (client) with 0 nxt in it will help the stability right?? or am I confused again!!!!

Would be great if you could write up a guide on getting people up and running on AWS. Windows and Linux.

[ferment]

Most people you see running the show are actually people who jumped in and started doing things they saw needed doing.

And I respect that Damelon but there is a disdain among contributors here that there should be any source of centralized information or decision-making, which I think gets to the heart of what ZerotheGreat is arguing.

My perspective is that there is only one decision maker right now until the whole shebang is open sourced. That's BCNext. Following him,  Jean-Luc and C-f-b support his overall plan through development of the "core" of NXT.

Everyone else is just a motivated individual that has an interest in NXT and is willing to help in their areas of interest/expertise.

There is plenty of opportunity for motivated and interested individuals to centralize information and coordinate projects outside of the "core".

[utopianfuture]

Is there any type of leadership in this project that is going to say, X is the official forum. The most authentic information is here at X. Or are we just going to let people blindly navigate this "de-centralized" fairyland because "screw centralization"?

No official forum. You would have to decide for yourself: where do you like to be, who do you want to trust etc. It would be confusing at first, but when you take the red pill and stays in wonderland, you will finally be free.

In the interest of time this is a terrible, terrible idea organizationally and strategically if NXT is to succeed in any sort of meaningful way.

I disagree, but then Bitcoin and NXT would only attract to a certain type of people. For God's sake, we are not a a corporation. You could invest in Facebook if you want that sort of things.

Thanks for the clarification. But NXT is a project, and like any other project known to man it needs cohesion and direction, and a clear source of authentic information that is easy to find for others who want to get involved. Enough with the elitist view on crypto. If it really is "so much more" than Bitcoin, why is it reserved for a select few?

If you want a short answer the you can trust opticalcarrier and his statement earlier, NXT wiki and information in this thread (the first page as a summary). There is no elitist view here. You are very welcome to join the community and nothing can prevent you doing so. The approach is just the way NXT is designed to be.

[klee]

GREAT IDEA

1) So the USD would be deposit to this account...by wire transfer or western union etc...

2) to withdraw USD IBC would wire money to the recipient...so they will still be wiretransfer delays & fees

 Edit: would this require serious manpower?

Online Banking has made these transfers very easy, just make sure the Belize Bank you choose offers it. Actually, the bank account does not even have to be with a Belize Bank as long as you find a bank that would be willing to open an account for the IBC and NOT you. It could be in any country... plus the IBC can offer deposits through an online payment service through its merchant account and customers will be able to deposit even with their Debit/Credit Cards. If income is earned outside Belize, there is NO TAX.

Pls explain more how we can do this in a decentralized way ASAP....thank you....also trust how to fix that

edit: we still need to trust the person doing the transfers

I can't think of how a gateway could be decentralized. If there were many gateways and a uber-issuer that spread across multiple gateways, it could approximate that, but it starts getting very complicated.

Did I mention peercover is already a USD gateway. Right now. No need to wait for asset exchange. This is why I know that using ripple gives NXT a strategic edge. All of the fiat regulation is dealt with by the ripple gateways. Any NXT/fiat gateway would need to do all the same sort of things anyway

James

What is needed in order to see NXT/USD in Peercover? NXT/BTC? I am talking about volumes, I may try to set up a market there tomorrow..

This is fantastic news!

There are two primary things that are needed. Sellers and buyers. If there were sellers with decent priced inventory and the buyers knew about it, then a market would automatically form. Of course, a persistent reminder about it won't hurt. Once the volumes are there and the spreads are low, then it will gain momentum on its own.

At first it might need someone to make a market to get the trades going. I would be more than happy to do that, as that is kind of my day job. Anybody can place orders in the orderbook, just need to select the NXT/USD or NXT/BTC pair.

nxtgt made a great howto for this: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2527.0.html
He has also volunteered to send the initial 30XRP needed for ripple accts.

Most important is to get people to just start using ripple. I will be going on a 17 hr bus ride soon, so I doubt I will have any wifi for a while. When I get back online I will be able to actively make a market in all three NXT/XRP, NXT/BTC and NXT/USD.

It does take a bit to get used to ripple, so the best thing everyone can do is just create a ripple acct and start the process. get 30XRP to get your acct activated and follow the howto

James

I have many XRP
And some btc and usd @Stamp..

[admatha]

https://www.facebook.com/nxtcoin - Just joined up, though very small, everyone come join up!

[utopianfuture]

Most people you see running the show are actually people who jumped in and started doing things they saw needed doing.

And I respect that Damelon but there is a disdain among contributors here that there should be any source of centralized information or decision-making, which I think gets to the heart of what ZerotheGreat is arguing.

My perspective is that there is only one decision maker right now until the whole shebang is open sourced. That's BCNext. Following him,  Jean-Luc and C-f-b support his overall plan through development of the "core" of NXT.

Everyone else is just a motivated individual that has an interest in NXT and is willing to help in their areas of interest/expertise.

There is plenty of opportunity for motivated and interested individuals to centralize information and coordinate projects outside of the "core".

This is the realist's view. Until all the codes are open-sources, the whole thing belongs to BCNext who is not only anonymous and but also has not said a thing without a messenger since two months ago .
But I believe BCNext has a very strong view toward decentralization. That's I think where we are heading to.

Just to add that: I was not there but I suspect that Bitcoin at the beginning would be kind of similar to where we are now. At first Bitcoin is basically just Satoshi's pet project until the he disappeared and the community took over

[NxtChg]

Yes, like someone else had stated, we just stepped up to do a job that needed to be done.

Yeah, you guys are doing terrific job! Thanks! We truly need something like what you're building.

[kunibopl]

But this thing about voting by action make a lot of sense. There is no actually voting system needed. At least for important things like alias trasfer.

That's what I'm talking about! Anything can be solved without monsterous mechanism like that. Some big aliases's holders wanna power to sell theri aliases? No problem. They ask some dev to implement that. And community agree/disagree with result by their own actions. I see no problem, I'll install such feature. Someone see problem? Well, he start his own Nxt or manages to live without it or even start to find support to disagreement of such dangerous (in his eyes) feature. And market'll decide.

I second this opinion. there has to be a lengthy debate, why we need voting.
did I read somewhere it was connected with the asset exchange!?