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January 08, 2014, 09:52:51 AM |
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Why is it necessary to announce IP address of forging nodes? Every node is forging, or not?
Senders must know where to send transactions to. If they broadcasted them to all the nodes we would need petabyte links. we dont; really need MASS MESSAGING @ 10,000 per Sec. rate at the moment. We need 100 TX per. Sec. Max.....AT THIS POINT! That would allow 8 million transaction in 24 hours.....would this be doable? No, current limit is 360'000 messages in 24 hours. I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage. - Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message) - Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction: 10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages. 1500 users MAX ? It is not serious. So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke! Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else? So ? |
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January 08, 2014, 09:54:17 AM |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: NXT MOBILE APPLICATIONS COMPANY ORGANIZATION
I will be posting this topic in the nextcoin.org & nxtcrypto.org forums so we will can better organize & develop this idea.
Summary:
The NXT MOBILE APPLICATIONS COMPANY will be coordinating the development, deployment & marketing of the NXT flagship mobile apps (Android & iPhone/iPad).
The Nxt Mobile Applications Company will be a decentralized, cellular organization. Its shares will be listed on the Nxt Asset Exchange.
P.S. Further details will be follow in both the forums mentioned above.
Definately want to join!  Pls register you name in any of the forums and PLS me mention which Group you would like to work under. https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2634.msg26093.html#msg26093 or https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=467 |
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January 08, 2014, 09:54:21 AM |
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I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.
- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:
10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.
So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!
Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?
So ?
I think you are right. |
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January 08, 2014, 09:55:21 AM |
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I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.
- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:
10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.
So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!
Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?
So ?
Agree. We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different. |
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January 08, 2014, 09:57:15 AM |
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I'm curious though, how do you mean voting would suppress people?
Well, if u agree to vote, u automatically agree to lose in future in some cases. Until u'll lose something important it seems like nothing wrong. Of course you'll lose some votes, not everyone thinks the same way. Why is this bad? This is decentralization. Why do you consider forking (which you can still do with voting system in place BTW...) a superior alternative when we can save everyone the worry and pain of lost transactions that comes with your method? Provide an example of something important that will go wrong, please. That's not true. For avoid it u can reconfigure your client.
Why do u mention hallmarking? Hallmarking is what protects us against zombie nodes. We have already been attacked by a large amount of zombie nodes sending out bogus packets to eat bandwidth... you really still think voting by number of nodes is still the best? How can you tell if people are really voting with their nodes and it's not just an attacker? An attacker can just come along when people are divided over an issue and start propping up dummy nodes left and right to completely fragment the network. NXT is strong right now because we have a consensus. A voting system can provide that consensus without fragmenting the network. |
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January 08, 2014, 09:59:26 AM |
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I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.
- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:
10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.
So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!
Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?
So ?
Agree. We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different. People are confused already. Then lets rename 'message' to 'data store' and define this function as P2P information storage available for selected number of recepients |
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January 08, 2014, 10:00:36 AM |
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I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.
- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:
10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.
So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!
Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?
So ?
Agree. We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different. So arbitrary messaging is not meant for messaging? Better to call it arbitrary data then. No reason to make those android/iphone apps then? Also, what is the ETA of this feature? |
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January 08, 2014, 10:03:34 AM |
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I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.
- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:
10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.
So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!
Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?
So ?
Agree. We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different. People are confused already. Then lets rename 'message' to 'data store' and define this function as P2P information storage available for selected number of recepients Messaging is mentioned NOWHERE in the above announcement. |
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January 08, 2014, 10:05:18 AM |
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People are confused already. Then lets rename 'message' to 'data store' and define this function as P2P information storage available for selected number of recepients This will confuse them more. AM r still messages. |
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January 08, 2014, 10:05:33 AM |
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Messaging is mentioned NOWHERE in the above announcement.
Nobody said that?! |
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January 08, 2014, 10:07:07 AM |
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Also, what is the ETA of this feature?
I can't find any bugs. Gonna test it for a couple of hours more and then send the code to Jean-Luc for review. He will decide at what block height the AM will be activated. |
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wesleyh
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January 08, 2014, 10:08:52 AM |
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Also, what is the ETA of this feature?
I can't find any bugs. Gonna test it for a couple of hours more and then send the code to Jean-Luc for review. He will decide at what block height the AM will be activated. Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now? |
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January 08, 2014, 10:10:44 AM |
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Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.
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wesleyh
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January 08, 2014, 10:14:17 AM |
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Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.
How much data can be in 1 arbitrary message? |
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January 08, 2014, 10:14:34 AM |
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Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now?
I don't use them, looks like a waste of time to me. I've seen a lot of projects that had a lot of specifications, testing and other voodoo magic things and still failed. |
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wesleyh
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January 08, 2014, 10:14:55 AM |
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Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.
Wouldn't that be a very slow poker game tho? |
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January 08, 2014, 10:15:27 AM |
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Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.
I think you mean bybitcoin. |
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wesleyh
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January 08, 2014, 10:15:50 AM |
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Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now?
I don't use them, looks like a waste of time to me. I've seen a lot of projects that had a lot of specifications, testing and other voodoo magic things and still failed. Hmm, it's good to test old features you already had to see if they're still working correctly after you made some changes to other functionality. Does jean-luc use these? Really, you set your tests up once and you're good. |
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January 08, 2014, 10:16:02 AM |
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Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.
How much data can be in 1 arbitrary message? 1000 bytes currently. If u need more then ask Jean-Luc to change MAX_ARBITRARY_MESSAGE_LENGTH constant. |
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January 08, 2014, 10:16:44 AM |
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Hmm, it's good to test old features you already had to see if they're still working correctly after you made some changes to other functionality. Does jean-luc use these? Really, you set your tests up once and you're good.
Aye, it's good. Anyone is willing to join the team as Unit test writer? |
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