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January 08, 2014, 10:04:51 PM
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Would you kindly pull your collective head out of your collective ass and start taking this issue seriously?

Well, give me an answer on a simple question:

- Where CRC should be added to protect a user from sending 90000 NXT instead of 80000 NXT and how is it different from incorrect account issue?

here one has to defend NxtChg. when you are content living with two possible scenarios of typos, why not invent 10 more?
on the other hand I don't understand, why a client can't check if an account is known to the blockchain.

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January 08, 2014, 10:05:28 PM
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Let CfB and especially Jean-Luc think about it.

I already did. There seems to be no progress whatsoever.

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January 08, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
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Anyone else had a problem with the mac-client auto-update...
I get this worrying message

"The hash of the downloaded update does not equal the one supplied by the blockchain. Aborting update."

Which implies wherever its trying to autoupdate to 0.5.3 from it thinks the source is corrupted  Shocked

Hi, download 0.20 here: http://nxtra.org/mac

The reason you got that message is because they're using another location for downloads now (hopefully the final time they change it..) - and what was compared was the hash of a HTML page returned at the old download location no longer in use instead of the zip.

Sorted tyvm...

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January 08, 2014, 10:05:58 PM
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I guess im pretty unlucky. Forging with 60k-100k for >2 weeks now, no block found...
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January 08, 2014, 10:06:06 PM
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Also, in case of the amount, the user can verify it, because it's human-readable.

Aliases r readable too.
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January 08, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
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I guess im pretty unlucky. Forging with 60k-100k for >2 weeks now, no block found...
buy more

good solution... Cheesy

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January 08, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
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Also, in case of the amount, the user can verify it, because it's human-readable.

Aliases r readable too.

Problem is aliases need to be looked up, and you have to be sure no one is poisoning the alias lookup with fake info (associated id). So you have to do at least 5+ lookups from different peers to be sure that the ID is correct.. (Is this correct?) - That's not very fast and you won't reach 10,000 tps (or however many you want) this way. I may be wrong.
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January 08, 2014, 10:11:32 PM
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on the other hand I don't understand, why a client can't check if an account is known to the blockchain.
It's nothing more than a quick temporary patch. In many cases people will send money to accounts that don't yet exist on the chain.

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January 08, 2014, 10:17:42 PM
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7th generation NOW out!
genious guy, looks so legit, thinking about sending him 100 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404524.new#new
this is getting ridiculous?

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January 08, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
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Aliases r readable too.

So now you're telling me that every address must have an alias?

Then throw away addresses from the system completely and replace them with aliases!

And you will be back on square one: "johny" sends to "johnc" and loses his money.

Why do you think bitcoin has checksums? Just to be fancy? Out of boredom?

What, you 3 are so afraid of the cost of change, you willingly delude yourself into denial? What is it?

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January 08, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
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I've had a couple of people contact me about peercover deposits not showing up in their ripple accounts. This has been caused by NXT server crashing or hanging or getting lost. Until the NXT server is stable, fully automated process can be interrupted by having to restart the server. Then, the transactions will have to be manually reconciled to see which ones got stuck.

So far, the transactions have gone from the private deposit address to peercover's main NXT address. As long as it got there, or if it is stuck in the private deposit address, the NXT is safe. Just need to wait for it to be manually processed. Peercover did not expect all this manually processing would be required and did not staff a person to be dealing with this...

Is there a stable NXT server that can run for days and days without crashing or getting stuck, yet? I know there was some sort of attacker that made this problem worse, but I need to be able to tell Peercover which server to use and whether it is indeed stable enough for production (real money!) use

James

P.S. If you have a pending deposit, PM me and I will help track it down

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January 08, 2014, 10:20:46 PM
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7th generation NOW out!
genious guy, looks so legit, thinking about sending him 100 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404524.new#new
this is getting ridiculous?

Hmm well that coin is just what 7 generations of in-breeding will get you!!

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January 08, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
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But 3 GB???  Shocked

That is. Just. Wrong.

I also don't see why this amount of memory should be required, given the traffic volumes we're seeing now, except for buggy code. I'd (still) like to see GC logs from a JVM with >=1GB heap that runs out of memory, when using these logging parameters:

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 -verbose:gc -Xloggc:gc.log -XX:+PrintGCDateStamps -XX:+PrintGCDetails

Anyone can supply?

PM me on this
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January 08, 2014, 10:23:07 PM
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Also, in case of the amount, the user can verify it, because it's human-readable.

Aliases r readable too.

Problem is aliases need to be looked up, and you have to be sure no one is poisoning the alias lookup with fake info (associated id). So you have to do at least 5+ lookups from different peers to be sure that the ID is correct.. (Is this correct?) - That's not very fast and you won't reach 10,000 tps (or however many you want) this way. I may be wrong.

Is this really correct? My understanding was:

 - If you tell the nxwork "send X nxt to alias Y" then there is no need for anything other than the forging node to do an alias lookup; and what the forging node forges is by definition either truth or eventually discarded as a wrong fork, so zero chance of fake alias info.
 - If your client is looking up up alias Y and translating it to a nxt account and then creating a transaction based on that, it's doing it wrong.

Needs network support for sending to alias, of course.
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January 08, 2014, 10:27:14 PM
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Let CfB and especially Jean-Luc think about it.

I already did. There seems to be no progress whatsoever.
I haven't seen Jean-Luc denying importance of this issue. Most likely fixing it seems hard for him now. And he has too many urgent issues to fix.
We should help him to figure out the right and easy way to implement solution. Once he says - "It'll take me two days to implement", nobody will oppose.

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January 08, 2014, 10:30:10 PM
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7th generation NOW out!
genious guy, looks so legit, thinking about sending him 100 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404524.new#new
this is getting ridiculous?

I'm tempted to launch FIATCoin, the Coin that comes full circle.

People could send me BTC to get discs of metal and sheets of paper.
The innovation will be that we agree to pretend we want them and that they represent value.

I think I might cash in on that one.

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January 08, 2014, 10:36:18 PM
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This stuff is dead in the water. heh.
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January 08, 2014, 10:53:25 PM
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7th generation NOW out!
genious guy, looks so legit, thinking about sending him 100 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404524.new#new
this is getting ridiculous?

Hmm well that coin is just what 7 generations of in-breeding will get you!!

Lol Grin
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January 08, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
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I must admit: a pool with a jetpack dóes look very tempting! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404524.msg4397630#msg4397630

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January 08, 2014, 11:01:09 PM
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I HAVE A NEW ASSIGNMENT FOR YOU!!!
The IP address is listed as static (which means tellas.gr would have no problem identifying your guy) and is on several spam block lists.
He send them!
Please delete your post mate, he is clear..

Damn, rickyjames is like an internet superhero.
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris rickyjames.
LOL.  I'm no superhero, I'm just a some guy who still thinks in his mind he's still some high school joker pulling off pranks to impress the girls and is always surprised when he looks in his mirror only to see some aging grey haired guy fighting a potbelly staring back.   Enjoy every single day and every single sunset, you crazy guys and gals out there, every day there's one fewer of them for you.

Another way of looking at me:  If one American fueled only by curiosity calling himself rickyjames can find out so much about EpicThomas and ktirio2010 in the real world with just a few clicks of a mouse, imagine what 30,000 Americans fueled by $11 billion calling themselves the National Security Agency (NSA) can find out about YOU.  I'm a loyal American with a security clearance, so I've got to say that what Edward Snowden was illegal and he should be arrested and tried for felony charges.  However, I also believe he considers himself a patriot whistleblower who has sent a message that everybody on Earth and especially Americans should think long and hard about.  We are shifting very quickly in scary directions almost without any complaints or resistance or even caring thoughts on the way down.  The NSA is utilizing capabilities targeting American citizens today that the Stasi couldn't even imagine directing against East German citizens in the 1980s. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency

Even the FBI that I kept beating EpicThomas over the head about has changed.   I read they've recently dropped "law enforcement" from their official mission statement, replacing it with "national security" as their top priority.  And along the way, they've dropped from turning over 10,000 white-collar crime cases per year to federal prosecutors in 2000 down to under 3,500 per year and dropping today.  To me, that's  65,000 criminals per decade getting away with their crimes - most of them on Wall Street.   Forget about Al Qaeda - that kind of rot from within is what topples economies and societies.  Which is a decline we are witnessing every day, all you've got to do is read The Economist weekly and Zerohedge.com daily to see it.

Sigh.  Off on a rant, sorry.   This is why I am all for NXT - national fiat currency implemented by central banks using debt-based fractional reserve banking is a hundred year old experiment that is going to fail very soon, I fear, and something needs to be in place when it fails as a framework to rebuild economic ties between individuals.  Code harder and faster, guys, you're in a race with the apocalypse.

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