NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[ifightformerkel]

Where can i see my NXT Number on gdex, to received NXT?  
Is it the Number that stand under add founds to dgex?

The Number is
6635869272840226493

But when i search the number under google i get this information
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=6635869272840226493

But the acount balance and all other numbers are are not conform with my account?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.

What about other copycats?

[dzarmush]

Where can i see my NXT Number on gdex, to received NXT?  
Is it the Number that stand under add founds to dgex?

The Number is
6635869272840226493

But when i search the number under google i get this information
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=6635869272840226493

But the acount balance and all other numbers are are not conform with my account?

Dgex only have one account 6635869272840226493, after you submit a payment Dgex admin deposit it to your Dgex account.

[BloodyRookie]

I updated my javascript project for the bounty:

https://github.com/BloodyRookie/nxtCrypto

I think a test should at least include chrome and firefox because those 2 are probably the most comon browsers.

Thanks for doing this work! We need JS crypto badly. Hope you'll get the bounty

About JS and 64 bit math. Has anyone researched GWT? I think it supports/emulates it.

Emulation of the 64 Bit arithmetic is too slow.

[BloodyRookie]

Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

r u kidding?

[Damelon]

Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.

What about other copycats?

Basically the same as for Nxt: if they can't survive on their own, they don't deserve to.

[BitcoinForumator]

Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.

What about other copycats?

Basically the same as for Nxt: if they can't survive on their own, they don't deserve to.

If they can't survive and THRIVE on their own, they don't deserve to.

Let FC take it from what ever he has now and let's see how much of an upgrade he can make.

[admiral.fu]

yeah, cos writing any server software in C++ gives so much joy...

yeah, cos it's all about your joy, right?

Screw users, they can install JRE if they want to use our 1337 coin.

Actually writing server software in C is quite fun. Debugging threading is tricky but with right tools it again is fun.
Users indeed should not instal JVM. But we are getting there, many people are working on clients already.
I got two Qt books today, so as soon there is API in C or C++ I too will start on multiplatform client.

So far no one with Qt knowledge has applied. Anyone?

• debugging sux a lot
• I think it'd be hard for developers to add new/experimental features
• need to compile at least for win, mac, lin - sux again, (raspberry?)

If you think about reimplementing whole server part, well it's doable, but I wish you luck with that (also keep in mind it would be hard to keep up with official server).

What we need and what I believe developers aim for is to split server and client part, than you could have server part running on public node, and lightweight clients (lightweight wallets, call it whatever you like).

(Oh and c++ even for thin client still sux, as you'd ao it much faster in python, c#, java)

1. I agree that nodes could stay on JVM. But installations for general public have to be download + double click (with or without JVM). We need to find out what Oracle has to say about packaging JRE.

2. Have not seen the user instructions yet, but I doubt users will understand the whole concept of using local software via their browser. Name one common product that does this, except router config?
    If eventually we stay with Java, then let's at least implement JavaFX or Swing interface. Then we will also solve this browser cashing issues with GET instead of POST.

Initially I got very excited about the Delphi client that is currently in development - it has lots of features, but for some reasons (third party libs?) it will not be open.


But are we getting to some common idea about this? Does community need another attempt at client and are there developers that would join in? For now all client projects seem to be individual initiatives.

What do you people say about JavaFX as an interface instead of browser? Staying on Java indeed has many good factors, but user browser for mainstream app interface is too exotic. If installation can be fixed, maybe...

Let us come to some conclusive decision. Should we vote to find out what we really thing about clients?

[salsacz]

We certainly need to continue to spam his thread hard

Since in the second post are all Nxt Infographics and the thread has already 4000 views, it is a nice advertisement for Nxt
+ there is also a Myths essay

[Come-from-Beyond]

r u kidding?

No. I supported a lot of currencies that looked innovative. I don't stick to Nxt only. If I see a crypto that has more chances to make the world better I'll jump to that train.

[instacalm]

Let FC take it from what ever he has now and let's see how much of an upgrade he can make.

He can make as much of an upgrade as IXCoin is to Bitcoin

r u kidding?

No. I supported a lot of currencies that looked innovative. I don't stick to Nxt only. If I see a crypto that has more chances to make the world better I'll jump to that train.

... which indicates that you actually must have been kidding to support Frict the Clown in creating a new genesis block.

[BloodyRookie]

r u kidding?

No. I supported a lot of currencies that looked innovative. I don't stick to Nxt only. If I see a crypto that has more chances to make the world better I'll jump to that train.

I meant the part that BCNext modified the crypto algo and that it's hard to generate a genesis block.

[bitcoinpaul]

r u kidding?

No. I supported a lot of currencies that looked innovative. I don't stick to Nxt only. If I see a crypto that has more chances to make the world better I'll jump to that train.

Then please be reasonable and don't waste your time for him. Waste it for NXT!

[gimre]

Bounty announcement

100'000 NXT will be paid for working JavaScript code that signs and verifies signatures using NRS algo.

- The licence must allow to use the code in any application
- Sign/verify speed must be not lower than 100 signatures per second on a 1 GHz CPU (1 core)
- All the code must be in a single non-obfuscated well-formatted .js file
- Input/output values must be strings like "8302504e4e57c6c65335289879c6915a273d3aae7bd086058e403fcd2bc18341"

The bounty is valid till the 20th of January, 2014 12:00:00 UTC. The complete code must be published in this thread.

My implementation: https://github.com/gimer/curve25519nxt

API and some more data is on github page.

My sign is around ~15ms (can be half of that if public key is cached), verify is around 12ms. (on my machine)

I think BloodyRookie's or hoax' implementation will be faster.

[newsilike]

Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.

What about other copycats?

That's why we need a bigger publicity first, then the copycats can come.

[newsilike]

r u kidding?

No. I supported a lot of currencies that looked innovative. I don't stick to Nxt only. If I see a crypto that has more chances to make the world better I'll jump to that train.

Then please be reasonable and don't waste your time for him. Waste it for NXT!

How can you "waste" time for NXT?

[Come-from-Beyond]

... which indicates that you actually must have been kidding to support Frict the Clown in creating a new genesis block.

He has a lot of power. We should use it.

[hypersire]

Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.

+1! I can't believe there are actually people supporting this NEX shit. Did people miss the post where he came on here DEMANDING that CFB "stop lying" and release the source code?! Oh yeah, and then he even put down the NXT coding to boot!

In my opinion, garbage like FairQuark and NEX is a sign of these troubling, parasitic times we find ourselves living in - people have such a strong sense of entitlement nowadays that they feel they are "owed" something (for example, coming on a forum and having the balls to demand that source code be released so you can copy it and profit from someone else's hard work).

Reminds me of the title of a book that was written especially for "Gen Y":

Not Everybody Gets a Trophy

Quark, NXT - why, I guess it's not fair because I missed the boat. Oh, I know, I will just make a copy that starts from scratch so I can profit from it this time - that will make it more fair. Where's MY trophy?

Let's focus on making NXT the Bitcoin Killer, as opposed to helping knockoffs leech off of the hard work of others. The NEX guy has already snubbed NXT's code - let him go right ahead and show off his skills and actually PRODUCE something better!

[bitcoinpaul]

... which indicates that you actually must have been kidding to support Frict the Clown in creating a new genesis block.

He has a lot of power. We should use it.

He has a lot of energy. That's different.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I meant the part that BCNext modified the crypto algo and that it's hard to generate a genesis block.

He did modify the algo. And left some riddles in the genesis block. For example, not all transactions r valid, they don't pass Transaction.verify().