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January 20, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
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Ok stupid me didn't give it enough time.. Its all showing up correctly now Smiley




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January 20, 2014, 04:21:42 PM
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what I meant was if TF code will be release in April before being fully implemented?

I doubt we will have TF code 100% ready in April.

TF Phase 1 is in effect now, and
TF Phase 2 will be enabled @47000, so
TF Phase 3 will be enabled @*****,
TF Phase 4 will be enabled @*****,
TF Phase 5 will be enabled @******?
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January 20, 2014, 04:23:10 PM
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WE NEED AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE CAPABILITY A USER CAN LOAD INTO THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A PAID MESSAGE THAT ALL NODES WILL RECOGNIZE AND REJECT ALL TRANSACTIONS OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT UNTIL A USER REVERSES IT AND TURNS IT OFF WITH A SECOND PASSWORD.

No need to shout, but yes. +1

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woulda saved me 107000 NXT Sad

Would have saved me 500k NXT. Sad

As a lawyer says to a jury, I rest my case.

Utopianfuture, you could wake up tomorrow to this nightmare.  So could I.  Dear reader, so could you.

There is a reason for this, both have something in common.  I still have some Nxt in an 8 character password (all letters) account and it's still there no problem.

Nope, TwinWinNerD and I discussed it.
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January 20, 2014, 04:24:13 PM
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what I meant was if TF code will be release in April before being fully implemented?

I doubt we will have TF code 100% ready in April.

TF Phase 1 is in effect now, and
TF Phase 2 will be enabled @47000, so
TF Phase 3 will be enabled @*****,
TF Phase 4 will be enabled @*****,
TF Phase 5 will be enabled @******?


Last phase requires a big infrastructure with hubs and service providers.
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January 20, 2014, 04:32:51 PM
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WE NEED AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE CAPABILITY A USER CAN LOAD INTO THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A PAID MESSAGE THAT ALL NODES WILL RECOGNIZE AND REJECT ALL TRANSACTIONS OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT UNTIL A USER REVERSES IT AND TURNS IT OFF WITH A SECOND PASSWORD.

No need to shout, but yes. +1

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woulda saved me 107000 NXT Sad

Would have saved me 500k NXT. Sad

As a lawyer says to a jury, I rest my case.

Utopianfuture, you could wake up tomorrow to this nightmare.  So could I.  Dear reader, so could you.

There is a reason for this, both have something in common.  I still have some Nxt in an 8 character password (all letters) account and it's still there no problem.

Nope, TwinWinNerD and I discussed it.

Yes.

And the strange thing is, IF they had access to my Keepass database, why did they only target my NXT accounts and not exchange accounts with funds on them? I had a good bunch of money on bitfinex for example. Or use my reputation in various forums to scam people?

I am still not 100% convinced it was a keylogger with access to all my datas. Maybe someone found a way to read the chache of my browser? I never use "Safe mode" for NXT. Maybe i should do that from now on?

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January 20, 2014, 04:34:25 PM
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what I meant was if TF code will be release in April before being fully implemented?

I doubt we will have TF code 100% ready in April.

TF Phase 1 is in effect now, and
TF Phase 2 will be enabled @47000, so
TF Phase 3 will be enabled @*****,
TF Phase 4 will be enabled @*****,
TF Phase 5 will be enabled @******?


Last phase requires a big infrastructure with hubs and service providers.

So where can I find written descriptions of the five levels of TF to add to the white paper?
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January 20, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 20, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
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Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

I would tell him that the only way for his coin to be truly fair, would be to make it free forever.  Otherwise, he's creating nothing new or fair.
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January 20, 2014, 04:42:01 PM
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bla blah........is still a conference in May:
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/652-bitcoin2014-l-may-15-17-l-amsterdam/

Of course, by then we may all be sitting in the Maldives, drinking beer served to us by supermodels.

I'm not the least bit surprised at this.
The worst part of it, is that they are still updating the site and are selling tickets.
So I would definitely call it a scam, because there is no way they will ever be able to book Science Park just a few months in advance.

Pity. Hopefully the bitcoinfoundation conference will turn out to be legit.

Having acquired over 10,000 Nxt now, I am willing to do a video conference from the Maledives, too, though.
Think its more incompetence/lack of interest than a scam. I'm fairly sure I've found the orgainser, and he's making no attempt to hide his ID.
Seems to be the same guy organising small-scale get togethers in Den Haag for the BTC community.
I'll keep on it, but I think that May is going to be our best bet, and like I say....Maldives!!

BTW: over 10.000? U complete bastard, I'm still at 9120 NXT........
Any whales reading this: give me and Damelon lots more NXT. We deserve it, tho' I think Damelon deserves it more: 
http://www.nxtcoins.nl/

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January 20, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
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bla blah........is still a conference in May:
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/652-bitcoin2014-l-may-15-17-l-amsterdam/

Of course, by then we may all be sitting in the Maldives, drinking beer served to us by supermodels.

I'm not the least bit surprised at this.
The worst part of it, is that they are still updating the site and are selling tickets.
So I would definitely call it a scam, because there is no way they will ever be able to book Science Park just a few months in advance.

Pity. Hopefully the bitcoinfoundation conference will turn out to be legit.

Having acquired over 10,000 Nxt now, I am willing to do a video conference from the Maledives, too, though.
Any whales reading this: give me and Damelon lots more NXT. We deserve it, tho' I think Damelon deserves it more:
http://www.nxtcoins.nl/

how many nxt does one have to have inorder to be a whale?

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 20, 2014, 04:46:25 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

Bter is the DGEX killer. Wink

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January 20, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
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So where can I find written descriptions of the five levels of TF to add to the white paper?

In the 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan.
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January 20, 2014, 04:47:31 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

Bter is the DGEX killer. Wink

i have heard that bter has very restrictive withdrawal limits

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 20, 2014, 04:48:06 PM
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WE NEED AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE CAPABILITY A USER CAN LOAD INTO THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A PAID MESSAGE THAT ALL NODES WILL RECOGNIZE AND REJECT ALL TRANSACTIONS OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT UNTIL A USER REVERSES IT AND TURNS IT OFF WITH A SECOND PASSWORD.

No need to shout, but yes. +1

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woulda saved me 107000 NXT Sad

Would have saved me 500k NXT. Sad

As a lawyer says to a jury, I rest my case.

Utopianfuture, you could wake up tomorrow to this nightmare.  So could I.  Dear reader, so could you.

There is a reason for this, both have something in common.  I still have some Nxt in an 8 character password (all letters) account and it's still there no problem.

Nope, TwinWinNerD and I discussed it.

Yes.

And the strange thing is, IF they had access to my Keepass database, why did they only target my NXT accounts and not exchange accounts with funds on them? I had a good bunch of money on bitfinex for example. Or use my reputation in various forums to scam people?

I am still not 100% convinced it was a keylogger with access to all my datas. Maybe someone found a way to read the chache of my browser? I never use "Safe mode" for NXT. Maybe i should do that from now on?

I always use the secure 7875 connection, do either of you?  Either way, sorry for your loss.
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January 20, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
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WE NEED AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE CAPABILITY A USER CAN LOAD INTO THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A PAID MESSAGE THAT ALL NODES WILL RECOGNIZE AND REJECT ALL TRANSACTIONS OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT UNTIL A USER REVERSES IT AND TURNS IT OFF WITH A SECOND PASSWORD.

No need to shout, but yes. +1

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woulda saved me 107000 NXT Sad

Would have saved me 500k NXT. Sad

As a lawyer says to a jury, I rest my case.

Utopianfuture, you could wake up tomorrow to this nightmare.  So could I.  Dear reader, so could you.

There is a reason for this, both have something in common.  I still have some Nxt in an 8 character password (all letters) account and it's still there no problem.

Nope, TwinWinNerD and I discussed it.

Yes.

And the strange thing is, IF they had access to my Keepass database, why did they only target my NXT accounts and not exchange accounts with funds on them? I had a good bunch of money on bitfinex for example. Or use my reputation in various forums to scam people?

I am still not 100% convinced it was a keylogger with access to all my datas. Maybe someone found a way to read the chache of my browser? I never use "Safe mode" for NXT. Maybe i should do that from now on?

I always use the secure 7875 connection, do either of you?  Either way, sorry for your loss.

I had problems with early versions, so i always used this bookmark: http://localhost:7874/

Could that be a serious problem?

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January 20, 2014, 04:51:00 PM
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Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

I would tell him that the only way for his coin to be truly fair, would be to make it free forever.  Otherwise, he's creating nothing new or fair.

I work for a non-profit and so work willingly for a small wage doing a job that could earn me loads of dosh.
That doesn't make it "unfair", it makes it my choice.

I find these cries of "unfair" so unbelievably naïve. I entered Nxt and couldn't buy a lot, because of said wage. So I decided to work, and it's paying off, because people here value work. I love that. Anyone who puts in hours and puts himself in the limelight can earn. I really believe FrictionlessCoin believes his story, though. That makes it a bit sad, because in the end he will still have to deal with the accusations of those who came later to the party.

The sad truth is that a lot people are out for a free lunch.

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January 20, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

Bter is the DGEX killer. Wink

i have heard that bter has very restrictive withdrawal limits

Day withdrawal limit: 200000NXT

I think this is enough?

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January 20, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

is it known who's the owner?

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January 20, 2014, 05:01:01 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

Bter is the DGEX killer. Wink

i have heard that bter has very restrictive withdrawal limits

Day withdrawal limit: 200000NXT

I think this is enough?

it was yesterday 200 NXT

edit: I guess they were testing, but what about the scam accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=367372.0
and : google > bter scam

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January 20, 2014, 05:01:34 PM
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just sent 0.06BTC to poloneix.com
will report here to keep people updated with my experience
at a glance it looks like poloneix is going to be a dgex killer

Bter is the DGEX killer. Wink

i have heard that bter has very restrictive withdrawal limits

Day withdrawal limit: 200000NXT

I think this is enough?

it was yesterday 200 NXT

Apparently only a few hours in the beginning.

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