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April 29, 2015, 07:27:42 PM
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2)  I am also interested in finding and examining SCENARIOS of Economic Devastation, and the probabilities of each and possible resolutions (at individual and perhaps (dare I suggest it) at some sort of Collective level.

The ones getting spotlight are:

The bio-survival side of this discussion thinks that there is no ultimate meaning, so you are not special and there are no suggestions to be made. They think you should just be prepared to run or fight any moment and maybe be strong enough to be a cage leader until the dices are rolled and your number is called by the slaughterer. Kids, Olds and Encumbereds are just weights.

The hedonistic tribal side, a.k.a Armstrong and his pals, thinks that they have to perpetuate the system and that still there is a lot to milk from it. Their solutions are in the best possible interpretation is indifferent to the masses. They think you will soon become dangerous because you will realize whats next so they are building camps, walls, bunkers.

The ugly brothers are:

The appeal side thinks there is always some solution to be uncovered, another instance, and large amounts of them are signalling across the world for clues. They also think that none deserves to be killed or mistreated by a Economic Crises beyond their own faults. They thinks our institutions and trust units may be flawed by some fundamental error so they are testing across the globe for what can be done. Examples can be researched by looking for LERS Credits, Time Cashes, Mutual Trust Unit, Complementary Currencies, Community Banks, Commercial Circuits. The main goal is reforming and development. The price pressure of the EURO in some places of its zone buffed local institutions which tried that solutions first. They are beginning to rise political power.

The people above this mindsets will probably not get much involved until the reform is done.

1)I would like to see other suggestions on what we can do as individuals to keep ourselves & families OK in the devastating storms to come. And other than that of acquiring advanced programming skills WAY beyond me and most others.
A friendly neighborhood capable of defending itself next to off-grid farmland should do in case anything really happens. Beside it, do not get paranoid by propaganda. It is their key to your world.
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Soon I may have the mental energy to more comprehensively explain my take on the Universe and how it applies to my discussion with CoinCube. Friction is the most salient generative essence point, because without it the Universe could not possibly exist. But of course I want a more holistic understanding of friction as it relates to matter (energy) and entropy.

OROBTC, you said you were curious about what I am working on now. And you alluded to your assumption that it is Filipina Я Us (although is starts that way because gaining critical mass in social networking is a hurdle). Not exactly. There are so many copycat sites in that genre.

Viber is free communication (and has been very successful in the Philippines), Facebook is everyone joined (broadcasting Wall posts to friends & family). The goal of my site is opportunity. Asia is the future; and Asians are youthful and goal oriented. Those foreigners seeking out Asia are seeking new opportunity. My site naturally is a very motivated demographic, not the narcissistic, creatures-of-habit (compulsive disorder) addiction demographic of Facebook, Twitter, Tinder, and Swipe (which cater to the apathetic, entitled, feminism-deluded[1] youth in the West[2]). My site is Asia focused, users can earn $ (revenue share with the users), and my site saves time and is efficiency focused, e.g. photos, communication, and phone (even pre-smartphone) well integrated and interoperable. I am trying to carve out the demographic cream of the world. From there, I can target the mass-market component of the Knowledge Age in spades (not the engineering demographic which sites such as Mashable and Stackexchange are targeting).

Viber is an example of a perfectly short, unique, memorable site name, because it's good vibrations (feelings) to communicate more and for free. Also the connotation to our mobile phone vibrating on incoming call or message.

[1]http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/02/bumble-is-exactly-like-tinder-except-girls-are-in-charge/
[2]http://mic.com/articles/111800/tinder-s-pricing-controversy-reveals-what-s-really-wrong-with-the-dating-app
http://host.madison.com/daily-cardinal/opinion/tinder-and-the-controversy-it-creates/article_26928f42-8268-11e3-acb6-0019bb2963f4.html

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A friendly neighborhood capable of defending itself next to off-grid farmland should do in case anything really happens. Beside it, do not get paranoid by propaganda. It is their key to your world.

The bunker mentality of Alex Jones' gold, guns, and basements is propaganda.

No community can accomplish isolation any more. The reasons range from technological delusion (how do you get spare parts to repair the tractor? you will join the Amish?) to unrealistic (how do you defend against mortars launched via air?).

The only solution is the one I mentioned about blending in and being hidden in plain sight with the NWO citizenry. Technological anonymity is going to be crucial. If you are sufficiently wealthy you might be able to isolate yourself on a ranch with sufficient security and a flying vehicle for escapes (i.e. you will still need access to the world; unabated physical isolation and 100% independence is unrealistic).

We have left the tangible age. Just forget all the tangible ideas. They won't work.

You all have the wrong conceptualizations and that is why you write mostly nonsense.

The hedonistic tribal side, a.k.a Armstrong and his pals, thinks that they have to perpetuate the system and that still there is a lot to milk from it. Their solutions are in the best possible interpretation is indifferent to the masses. They think you will soon become dangerous because you will realize whats next so they are building camps, walls, bunkers.

True, Armstrong (if unwittingly) is caught up in finding paradigms to perpetuate the NWO.

The bio-survival side of this discussion thinks that there is no ultimate meaning, so you are not special and there are no suggestions to be made. They think you should just be prepared to run or fight any moment and maybe be strong enough to be a cage leader until the dices are rolled and your number is called by the slaughterer. Kids, Olds and Encumbereds are just weights.

You seem to have very low reading comprehension or perhaps you are just so mired in your bullheaded conceptualizations.

The Knowledge Age empowers more meaning to the individual(ity) and his/her mental and style contributions.

The person who fights for the collective to enforce victim's rights and welfare actually destroys the victim's rights and welfare. OROBTC wants enforcement, like a dog wants to chase his own tail and then wondering why it hurts when he bites that tail which is running away from him.

The appeal side thinks there is always some solution to be uncovered, another instance, and large amounts of them are signalling across the world for clues.

I already found it. I told you that the Knowledge Age liberates the individual because individual mental production is now the largest component of production inputs not the stored monetary capital to build factories.

They also think that none deserves to be killed or mistreated by a Economic Crises beyond their own faults. They thinks our institutions and trust units may be flawed by some fundamental error so they are testing across the globe for what can be done.

The Marxists who cause what they are trying to fix, because they don't understand the Universe, and thus they don't look for the systemic constraints and incentives in the free market which are natural (usually due to a technological evolution). Instead they...

Examples can be researched by looking for LERS Credits, Time Cashes, Mutual Trust Unit, Complementary Currencies, Community Banks, Commercial Circuits. The main goal is reforming and development.

...they try top-down nonsense which exacerbates the problems they are trying to solve (because top-down is always blind due to the fact that specific targeted metrics can't be controlled a priori). Like a dog chasing his tail. It is amusing to observe for someone who understands the Big Picture.

In short, the Marxists want to put their hands on something specific and control it. Thus their actions will always be blind. Whereas, those seek to understand the natural constraints and incentives which structure the free market look for generative essence fundamentals and thus find truth and harmonization.

In what way have I not refuted it?

The mutation analogy only proved that a top-down controller can't exist, because there is no a priori metric on the optimum rate of mutation. Nature obviously converges without a pre-chosen top-down structure. Any structure created is known only after the fact of the free market creating it, not a priori.

You Marxists academics just can't accept that nature doesn't need your "superior intelligence" to manage and control it. You all are jealous of nature.

CoinCube,

The implicit economic incentives in the free market drive the outcome ALWAYS.

You are correct that free market "failure" (divergent outcomes) result from too high or too low of entropy w.r.t. to the rate at which the system can iterate (anneal). Your myopia is on the fact that no one can put their hand on the entropy production and regulate it (Adam Smith's Invisible Hand is doing it). We get the entropy production that naturally fits the implicit constraints in the system. A top-down constraint only sustains because it is the most economic.

We humans can work on technology that alters those implicit constraints. That is about all we can do to effect change. Education is a total waste of time, because people will naturally anneal to the implicit constraints (humans are very adaptable).

In the Industrial Age, the most economic meant aggregation of capital (factories and labor) because production required large economies-of-scale. Thus the Theory of the Firm (top-down management) applied. As well, capture of the State by the capitalists applied, because these were all the most economic outcomes. The people were fed the delusion of democracy because this was the most economic (for them and for the capitalists). But I tell you even the capitalists know they are trapped by the one-world NWO and they don't like it. Their ROI is diminishing and they know it.

My point all along has been the Knowledge Age alters the implicit economic constraints, because it removes those requirements (benefits) for economy-of-scale beyond the groupsize of the individual. The larger entities will be less agile and thus a liability in the Knowledge Age.

The monetary system we got was the one that fit the implicit economic constraints.

What will get in the Knowledge Age is what is most economic in the new paradigm of implicit economic constraints.

It would be much more productive use of your time to analyze what the implicit constraints are and model the free market outcome, than waste your time being repulsed by your ingrained preferences (which frankly I think are just FUD any way). And yes your beloved Statism was a free market outcome of the Industrial Age (and prior). And that is why socialism thrives at this end game, because people correctly blame the free market, but without realizing that it all is changing in the Knowledge Age if they would only adapt (but their ears and eyes are covered).

The Knowledge Age threatens to alter the implicit economic constraints radically.

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April 29, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
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You tipped your stupid hat. Get back to me when you want to enter reality. Never mind; you are delusional.

Soon I may have the mental energy to more comprehensively explain my take on the Universe Multiverse and how it applies to my discussion with CoinCube. Friction is the most salient generative essence point, because without it the  Universe Multiverse could not possibly exist. But of course I want a more holistic understanding of friction as it relates to matter (energy) and entropy.

OROBTC, you said you were curious about what I am working on now. And you alluded to your assumption that it is Filipina Я Us (although is starts that way because gaining critical mass in social networking is a hurdle). Not exactly. There are so many copycat sites in that genre.

Viber is free communication (and has been very successful in the Philippines), Facebook is everyone joined (broadcasting Wall posts to friends & family). The goal of my site is opportunity. Asia is the future; and Asians are youthful and goal oriented. Those foreigners seeking out Asia are seeking new opportunity. My site naturally is a very motivated demographic, not the narcissistic, creatures-of-habit (compulsive disorder) addiction demographic of Facebook, Twitter, Tinder, and Swipe (which cater to the apathetic, entitled, feminism-deluded[1] youth in the West[2]). My site is Asia focused, users can earn $ (revenue share with the users), and my site saves time and is efficiency focused, e.g. photos, communication, and phone (even pre-smartphone) well integrated and interoperable. I am trying to carve out the demographic cream of the world. From there, I can target the mass-market component of the Knowledge Age in spades (not the engineering demographic which sites such as Mashable and Stackexchange are targeting).

Viber is an example of a perfectly short, unique, memorable site name, because it's good vibrations (feelings) to communicate more and for free. Also the connotation to our mobile phone vibrating on incoming call or message.

[1]http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/02/bumble-is-exactly-like-tinder-except-girls-are-in-charge/
[2]http://mic.com/articles/111800/tinder-s-pricing-controversy-reveals-what-s-really-wrong-with-the-dating-app
http://host.madison.com/daily-cardinal/opinion/tinder-and-the-controversy-it-creates/article_26928f42-8268-11e3-acb6-0019bb2963f4.html

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You tipped your stupid hat. Get back to me when you want to enter reality. Never mind; you are delusional.

Soon I may have the mental energy to more comprehensively explain my take on the Universe Multiverse and how it applies to my discussion with CoinCube. Friction is the most salient generative essence point, because without it the  Universe Multiverse could not possibly exist. But of course I want a more holistic understanding of friction as it relates to matter (energy) and entropy.

You amplified the neon Dunning-Kruger sign on your forehead — flashing between kiddie punk pink and iridescent infantile snot green.

Multiverse (multiple simultaneous realities) theory is entirely encapsulated in my theory of the Universe. Did I not say that friction wasis elemental? (Let's see you explain why Multiverse requires it!)

Those suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect are not aware of the following.

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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Conversely, highly skilled individuals tend to underestimate their relative competence, erroneously assuming that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others.

As David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude: "The miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."

I definitely miscalibrate the ability of others to comprehend, because otherwise I wouldn't waste my time writing here.

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...

TPTB wrote a lovely piece of humor:

[...Filipina Я Us...]

Actually that was just a guess vs. an assumption.  Good luck in your venture!  Targeting a high-end audience/market might work.  Hmm, are you going to sell all that data to the brokers like everyone else (Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc) is doing?

Thanks also for clearing the up Dunning-Kruger effect, I had thought it was a take on the Douchinger Effect (Denninger)...

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I have done (a little) thinking on your Knowledge Age idea set.  After the "reset" or whenever that kicks in, your ideas look overly grim...  Only top computer programmers will live well?  If we are not near-invisible NWO-citizens, are our geese cooked?

Maybe you are thinking that there will be such a Priestly Class, with "Jim Willie like squires" to serve the "New-Techno-Wealthy-Elite".

Seems unlikely.  Just my opinion, and yet I do share your ideas that the SMART will likely rise (given time), but the transition will be rough.  But, you have clearly given this more thought, and I may not be framing your ideas right.
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Little man-child who thinks that his intelligence reigns supreme. You are an asshat. You truly are. For a supposed smart person you are pretty damn dumb. I think it is time that you apply this rant at me to yourself because your intellectual capacity to form an articulate argument is child-like.

With that, I will translate this into language that even a simpleton like you can understand:
I know you are but what am I?


You tipped your stupid hat. Get back to me when you want to enter reality. Never mind; you are delusional.

Soon I may have the mental energy to more comprehensively explain my take on the Universe Multiverse and how it applies to my discussion with CoinCube. Friction is the most salient generative essence point, because without it the  Universe Multiverse could not possibly exist. But of course I want a more holistic understanding of friction as it relates to matter (energy) and entropy.

You amplified the neon Dunning-Kruger sign on your forehead — flashing between kiddie punk pink and iridescent infantile snot green.

Multiverse (multiple simultaneous realities) theory is entirely encapsulated in my theory of the Universe. Did I not say that friction was elemental? (Let's see you explain why Multiverse requires it!)

Those suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect are not aware of the following.

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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Conversely, highly skilled individuals tend to underestimate their relative competence, erroneously assuming that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others.

As David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude: "The miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."

I definitely miscalibrate the ability of others to comprehend, because otherwise I wouldn't waste my time writing here.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720940.msg11246088#msg11246088
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I know you are but what am I?

You have a choice for your attitude which profoundly affects the direction and outcome of your life. Choose one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpwX89tmpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOVS9zotSqM

Here in the Philippines "batasan" (attitude) is observed to be one of the most important traits of a person. In fact, for many here you can't overcome an undesirable batasan no matter how phenomenal your other traits.


The following is instructive as to why we need anonymity in this coming era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPznMbNcfO8#t=293

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Thank you very much for the sentiment and offer. Actually I am still (somewhat near to the precipice) financially (con)strained, but I observe I am on the verge of success so I estimate that there must be those who are in more need than I am. But if you don't find another within the next couple of weeks and I haven't achieved the trajectory that I am expecting by that time, then I might reconsider.

Btw, I used the 2.75 BTC from Rpietila to pay for the hosting and domains for my new site! That was my seed capital, Lol. (see how disruptive the Knowledge Age is to idle stored monetary capital!)

Hey I hope you are loving my birthplace New Orleans for me. I can only join you vicariously at the moment.

Here follows a slightly edited and redacted copy of a private message I just sent in email.

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Wow! I just made a major accomplishment with my new site. I was able to think of an available name which is not dating specific, but more general to social networking (which is what I obviously want).

I am becoming more confident my new site is headed to multi-million users success!

I am getting excited. I expect before the end of May we are already on our way towards wealth again, similar to the launch of CoolPage in September 1998. By that Christmas 1998, we had purchased all the new appliances.

This new one is going to be much bigger than CoolPage!

Most all of the essential features programming is done. The site is already rolling. I was struggling so much 18 hours a day past few weeks getting it done, while also going through the fatigue of curing the Multiple Sclerosis with the daily high doses of vitamin D3.

The main hurdle remaining was the name. Almost all the good domain names are already registered (taken).

Just now I thought of a portmanteau derivative of "jump" (not jump but very similar) which works perfectly, because the unique feature of my site is that it relays the online communication directly to the person who is offline via SMS messages. Thus everyone is always effectively online even if they are offline.

This makes my site better than Facebook and Viber because those sites only connect to those who are online. Globe in the Philippines is recently offering free Fb and Viber connection.

But note that offer is only applicable for Globe users and only for those who have a Smartphone. In the Philippines we can purchase a basic Samsung feature phone model GT-E1200Y for 699 pesos ($16); whereas, the least cost Smartphone is 2999 pesos ($68) for an Alcatel Onetouch Pixi 3.

The $68 price is simply out of the reach of millions of filipinos who only earn that much per month and their income is always insufficient for their daily needs. Plus we have the global economic downturn contagion coming from 2016 to 2020 in Asia.

So this provides the initial advantage to gain marketshare over Facebook and Viber. Viber has 18 million users in the Philippines alone. Viber offers free messaging but only to other Viber uses. Ditto Facebook. They can't interconnect to the larger market which is only on SMS.

Over the long-term what can sustain my advantage (if Viber or Facebook implement SMS relaying which is not likely, or smartphones become low cost while incomes in Asia rise which will take more years), is the generalized conceptualization that I can provide better integration insight given how immersed I am in the market and the fact that if the decision maker is also the programmer and marketer, then convergence is more precise and rapid.

Yeah I am several years late because of the battle with Multiple Sclerosis which intensified after 2010. I mean I already had million users social networking app CoolPage in 1998. I was in front of Friendster (2002), MySpace (2003), Facebook (2004), and Viber (2010), but now needing to innovate to catch back up. One programmer versus 100s. Let's see what happens. David fights Goliath in Las Vegas on Saturday, May 2. Clearly only Viber has been able to make waves since the Big 3 launched a decade ago. The reason is because Viber liberated more communication for a wide swath of users. And my plan is a much wider swath!

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lol! I was just going through my old tweets today too from two or so years ago and I remember one that said "lil boosie sucks". I stand corrected, Little Boosie is AWESOME!!

We are always loving our (re)birth place.
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I won't make any comment about Lil Boosie because no one is perfect, but he is a product of and reflects on the Deep South culture.

My father—the powerful oil and environmental law attorney—has Lil Boosie on his Facebook.

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I won't make any comment about Lil Boosie because no one is perfect, but he is product of and reflects on the Deep South culture.

I did not understand that until I heard the music Smiley
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Show The World - Lil Boosie.

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But according to TPTB_need_war this is her fault...

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/26/technology/revenge-porn-victim/index.html

I attributed this to OP as I thought TPTB_need_war was OP. I apologize for the error but his dumbfuckery is at an all time low. He blames victims for crimes against them.

Since you can't seem to grasp the overriding issue is the holistic cost of societal collapse as explained above, let me put it another way for your pee-size brain can maybe fathom.

If you go climb into the lion's den and they eat you, are we supposed to blame the lions? Is the government supposed to protect people from their own irresponsibility? And what moral hazard does that create?

So just do what ever the fuck risky stuff you want, because social insurance, welfare, and the Big Brother always has your back ass covered. Let's charge the cost of your risky choices to the collective, so we can all increase the costs and bankrupt the society. And while we are at it, let's hand the keys to some enforcers that we "trust". So then you've transferred the individual trust issue to a collective trust issue. And how does that work out every damn time over the 6000 years of recorded history.

Dumbfuckery indeed.

Do you fucking Marxists even have a brain stem?

Why fool yourselves in an excrutiatingly slow decline into eugenics and megadeath (as the State is bankrupted). Just go directly to the end game and kill nature. Drop the nuclear bomb and be done with life. That is really what you are driving towards, but like dumbass sheep you can't even see it. You only see the ass of the sheep in front of you with your linear "thinking".


P.S. the anonymity age will provide an elegant solution to above problem. She can offer an anonymous bounty for his execution. You will need to be more careful about offending people in the Knowledge Age. You won't sleep well at night if you do evil in the Knowledge Age. The more people you do evil against, the more your odds of suffering will increase. Justice indeed.

CoinCube you don't want to give individuals the power to enforce justice (surely the 97.5% can slaughter the 2.5% sociopaths)? So then you prefer JustUs instead? Hand over the keys of power to the sociopaths my friend. Enjoy your insanity.

CoinCube and all Marxists,

Just one question about moral hazard.

When everyone is a victim who will be remaining that is responsible enough to protect and provide for them?

Surely in that case the fox has the keys to the henhouse, because everyone stopped being diligent.

That is what collectivism does.

Maybe we needed collectivism in the Agrarian and Industrial Age because profit margin was subject to economy-of-scale; and with such slim margins, means of production required society-backed usury and insurance against natural disasters and ebbs in the business cycle. Thus ostensibly humanity got addicted to being serfs, victims, and provided for by their masters — which is what the State evolved to.

I am ready for a new paradigm. It is called the Knowledge Age.

P.S. Singapore is talking about self-responsibility in their health-care system. The society has agreed to some (in my view abhorrently) strict rules about behavior which don't personally fit my taste, but I am free to live else where. Singapore as far as I know, is not trying to subject the rest of the world to their values (unlike Westerners, especially Americans who think they know what is best for everyone but themselves). If they do (which they may as Asia rises to dominance over the next decades), I will wail against them with all defensible means possible.

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What's your obsession with Marxism?

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May 01, 2015, 05:45:46 AM
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But according to TPTB_need_war this is her fault...

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/26/technology/revenge-porn-victim/index.html

I attributed this to OP as I thought TPTB_need_war was OP. I apologize for the error but his dumbfuckery is at an all time low. He blames victims for crimes against them.

Since you can't seem to grasp the overriding issue is the holistic cost of societal collapse as explained above, let me put it another way for your pee-size brain can maybe fathom.

If you go climb into the lion's den and they eat you, are we supposed to blame the lions? Is the government supposed to protect people from their own irresponsibility? And what moral hazard does that create?

So just do what ever the fuck risky stuff you want, because social insurance, welfare, and the Big Brother always has your back ass covered. Let's charge the cost of your risky choices to the collective, so we can all increase the costs and bankrupt the society. And while we are at it, let's hand the keys to some enforcers that we "trust". So then you've transferred the individual trust issue to a collective trust issue. And how does that work out every damn time over the 6000 years of recorded history.

Dumbfuckery indeed.

Do you fucking Marxists even have a brain stem?

Why fool yourselves in an excrutiatingly slow decline into eugenics and megadeath (as the State is bankrupted). Just go directly to the end game and kill nature. Drop the nuclear bomb and be done with life. That is really what you are driving towards, but like dumbass sheep you can't even see it. You only see the ass of the sheep in front of you with your linear "thinking".


P.S. the anonymity age will provide an elegant solution to above problem. She can offer an anonymous bounty for his execution. You will need to be more careful about offending people in the Knowledge Age. You won't sleep well at night if you do evil in the Knowledge Age. The more people you do evil against, the more your odds of suffering will increase. Justice indeed.

CoinCube you don't want to give individuals the power to enforce justice (surely the 97.5% can slaughter the 2.5% sociopaths)? So then you prefer JustUs instead? Hand over the keys of power to the sociopaths my friend. Enjoy your insanity.

CoinCube and all Marxists,

Just one question about moral hazard.

When everyone is a victim who will be remaining that is responsible enough to protect and provide for them?

Surely in that case the fox has the keys to the henhouse, because everyone stopped being diligent.

That is what collectivism does.

Maybe we needed collectivism in the Agrarian and Industrial Age because profit margin was subject to economy-of-scale; and with such slim margins, means of production required society-backed usury and insurance against natural disasters and ebbs in the business cycle. Thus ostensibly humanity got addicted to being serfs, victims, and provided for by their masters — which is what the State evolved to.


I am ready for a new paradigm. It is called the Knowledge Age.

P.S. Singapore is talking about self-responsibility in their health-care system. The society has agreed to some (in my view abhorrently) strict rules about behavior which don't personally fit my taste, but I am free to live else where. Singapore as far as I know, is not trying to subject the rest of the world to their values (unlike Westerners, especially Americans who think they know what is best for everyone but themselves). If they do (which they may as Asia rises to dominance over the next decades), I will wail against them with all defensible means possible.

Agreed.
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May 02, 2015, 12:23:18 AM
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What's your obsession with Marxism?

Thanks for exemplifying my point about diligence.

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coinits,

Are you still asserting I have no experience?

The following exemplifies the Knowledge Age in action (production is predominately marketing and programming, i.e. all mental work)...

Quote from: myself
Over the long-term what can sustain my advantage (if Viber or Facebook implement SMS relaying which is not likely, or smartphones become low cost while incomes in Asia rise which will take more years), is the generalized conceptualization that I can provide better integration insight given how immersed I am in the market and the fact that if the decision maker is also the programmer and marketer, then convergence is more precise and rapid.

Line is being beaten (about 1/3 the interest according to Facebook Likes) by Viber in the Philippines; and I assert this is because the naive (north asian) Line marketers think filipinos are immature.

Compare the following ad videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5LKXDwpqPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2E9L0OAjdA

I suppose Line execs had Jollibee-envy and failed to note that fast-food chain and mascot was launched two decades ago when filipinos were culturally more provincial due to being isolated from the world:



Since then some 10+ million filipinos have migrated abroad, filipinos became the first SMS text messaging capital of the world, and they adopted Friendster (the first of the Big 3 social media sites) more than any other country back in the day. Asia is metamorphosing rapidly.

And Viber has taken the iPhone market-share approach (partnering with carriers and awarding exclusives):

(2013) http://www.globe.com.ph/press-room/partnership-with-viber
(2015) http://www.philstar.com/technology/2015/01/12/1411464/free-facebook-free-viber

However, I will attempt the Android open interoperability strategy against Viber's emulation of Steve Jobs' walled garden strategy and I hope with similar devastating results:



P.S. In turnabout, the southern asians appear to exemplify my point about the advantage of local cultural knowledge.

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May 02, 2015, 12:59:14 AM
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Is life in the philippines like that ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63D_B6e12O0
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