Economic Devastation

[G2M]

So totally forgot about this thread.

Glad to see it's still well discussed.

This is a subscription post.

[wearefucked]

The moderator deleted my post about the corruption of the modern medical system and my cure, so I reposted it in a more appropriate thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010692.0

Note it is very on topic to the Knowledge Age (bottom-up knowledge formation about medicine vs. top-down control) which the entire point of this thread. The moderator apparently does not like the truth. Wonder why? Hmmm.


Watch the video of the neurologist expert who is the progenitor of this high dose vitd3 protocol.

He clearly explains that normal doses can not cure autoimmunity. And the danger is to the kidneys. He requires 2.5 liters of water a day, and he monitors blood panel every 2 months. He also says each person has a different high dose level to reach the required serum levels of d3.

btw, I feel great! Slept 7 hours like a baby. Awoke full of energy. My blurred vision is diminishing already, I could see the faces again of people along the road.

This is the same result I got in Sept 2012 and 2013 when I had treated with high dose vitd3. I should not have stopped!

I am feeling very strong. My muscles are bulging. I ran yesterday 3 miles in the intense hot sun and I didn't even feel the heat!

This is the real me. I am like an ironman. I always had those traits.

It is clear now that I have Multiple Sclerosis induced by a lifetime of lack of sun due to working on the computer and then kicked into hyperdrive by the HPV infection in 2006.

Being the ironman I am, I was able to fight it off with exercise to a large extent, but I was slowly succumbing to it.

The high dose antibiotics to cure the h.pylori and acute peptic ulcer hospitalization in May 2012 kicked my autoimmunity up another level, that is why I went into a tailspin hence.

Now I remember that when I did the high dose vitd3 in Sept 2012 and was feeling perfect, I had a huge breakout all over my left buttock and hip where the HPV has made a rash which turned into oozing green pus.

So indeed the vitd3 is anti-viral. It probably was curing the HPV then and probably most of what I have had since then is autoimmunity.

Remember in Dec. 2012, my blood test showed my lymphocytes were skyhigh.

I should never have stopped the high dose vitd3 in Sept 2012! I was already cured then, but I listened to people who told me that I was risking my liver.

Apparently the maintenance dose is as high as 40,000 IU daily for life!

Different people tolerate d3 in different dosages.

The modern medical industry is a bunch of lazy fat cat doctors being fed propaganda by the large corrupt pharmaceuticals. They don't want a cheap, broad spectrum cure for most disease. They will all be impoverished! Fuck them! Off with their heads!

They said we could eat cake. Off with their heads!

Nine years of my life wasted because of that corrupt medical system.

[coinits]

I have been taking 6000 IU of Vit D3 gel caps for as long as I can remember. Also 6000 IU of Ester Vit C, 1000 IU of Vit A and 1 multivitamin with various other minerals in it. No processed foods anymore but I have a liking to beer and scotch. One has to have some vices!

[wearefucked]

Iceland looks at ending boom and bust with radical money plan

Under the so-called Sovereign Money proposal, the country's central bank would become the only creator of money.
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"As with the state budget, the parliament will debate the government's proposal for allocation of new money," he wrote.
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Banks would continue to manage accounts and payments, and would serve as intermediaries between savers and lenders.

The report, commissioned by the premier, is aimed at putting an end to a monetary system in place through a slew of financial crises, including the latest one in 2008.

According to a study by four central bankers, the country has had "over 20 instances of financial crises of different types" since 1875, with "six serious multiple financial crisis episodes occurring every 15 years on average".

Mr Sigurjonsson said the problem each time arose from ballooning credit during a strong economic cycle.

My bifurcation theory is happening just as I said it would. The Industrial Age politics will try to centralize control over money in order to fight the fact that stored monetary capital is dying and knowledge capital is rising. We in the Knowledge Age will break away into our own anonymous crypto-currency economy.

Goodbye fuckers!

[thaaanos]

In the so called knowledge age, capital is the knowledge worker and that sparkles fancies of liberated and fluid capital and butterflies

Well the system already has them ring fenced by NDAs and software patents and student loans. Want to take out the global bank? They will go by a new name: Global Patent Office or Ivy League or Apple Center for Education

Knowledge age if it happens, will be no diffrent. I wait for the Wisdom age

[wearefucked]

We don't give a fuck about their laws. They can't find us. Did you not read the word "anonymous"!

Yeah they can find me personally, but I paid all my taxes. Can you prove we didn't?

Anonymous transactions.

[coinits]

Iceland looks at ending boom and bust with radical money plan

Under the so-called Sovereign Money proposal, the country's central bank would become the only creator of money.
...
"As with the state budget, the parliament will debate the government's proposal for allocation of new money," he wrote.
...
Banks would continue to manage accounts and payments, and would serve as intermediaries between savers and lenders.

The report, commissioned by the premier, is aimed at putting an end to a monetary system in place through a slew of financial crises, including the latest one in 2008.

According to a study by four central bankers, the country has had "over 20 instances of financial crises of different types" since 1875, with "six serious multiple financial crisis episodes occurring every 15 years on average".

Mr Sigurjonsson said the problem each time arose from ballooning credit during a strong economic cycle.

My bifurcation theory is happening just as I said it would. The Industrial Age politics will try to centralize control over money in order to fight the fact that stored monetary capital is dying and knowledge capital is rising. We in the Knowledge Age will break away into our own anonymous crypto-currency economy.

Goodbye fuckers!

After seeing what the government that controls the borders around me has done as of late, I am with you on this 100%. People need to make banks, crony capitalism, fear-for-profit, and rogue governments (currently - all of them) starve. Choke off their tax and fear pipelines. Bypass their fiat by any means possible.

[wearefucked]

Btw, "let them eat cake and off with their heads" is a famous event from the French Revolution. Don't interpret it literally. It is a rallying cry when oppressed people must fight for their prosperity against corruption.

[OROBTC]

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Again, I am pleased to have read and to a degree participated in this thread.

wearefucked, stay healthy, it does look like you have found the key to your health.  You may be one of those guys that one school of historians call (roughly, my term as I do not recall the exact term) "Great Men Idea", the school that believe that a few greats are the ones who change history much more than is recognized.  

Your work, therefore, may be extremely important even to outside observers.  Even if you assume (yeah I know, ass-u-me) that your prediction of a Knowledge Age is not a certainty (how can it be certain in a Universe of essentially unlimited entropy?), well Expectation("Knowledge Age")) = Mean(scenario) throughout its (Knowledge Age) distribution probability (excuse sloppy language).  Meaning, that the implications of your work are very high, even if it is not guaranteed, the implications (changes) are such that a betting man with limited skills would be wise to learn more irregardless...

Your unheresy.com articles should be required reading for potential Knowledge Age workers.  At least to the point where you lost me after General Relativity.  Four remarkable articles, H/T.

[wearefucked]

As CoinCube has stated, there would be some downsides to an anonymous internet where someone can run a website anonymously:

http://technology.inquirer.net/41598/california-man-gets-18-years-for-us-revenge-porn-site

Would it really be so horrific if people had to become more cautious about their promiscuity?

[bigtimespaghetti]

As CoinCube has stated, there would be some downsides to an anonymous internet where someone can run a website anonymously:

http://technology.inquirer.net/41598/california-man-gets-18-years-for-us-revenge-porn-site

Would it really be so horrific if people had to become more cautious about their promiscuity?

I am not so sure about the downsides- I feel they obviously exist but are overplayed by mainstream media, obviously exploitative pornography is an abomination, but worrying about a symptom does not address the cause, which is largely the extent to which children are routinely abused in the home and in institutions, the public needs to be better educated on these things. While making things illegal can have a cooling effect, it still will not remedy the problem.

I think things like ex-porn is obviously immoral, and I do not like the idea of my freedom being further taken away due to other's bad decisions. But this is always the way. I'm rambling!

[coinits]

As CoinCube has stated, there would be some downsides to an anonymous internet where someone can run a website anonymously:

http://technology.inquirer.net/41598/california-man-gets-18-years-for-us-revenge-porn-site

Would it really be so horrific if people had to become more cautious about their promiscuity?

Someone who does that deserves 18 years in prison. That type of person is a scourge on humanity.

[wearefucked]

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Subject: Armstrong's proposed non-solution is moral hazard and economic suicide
From:    wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 12:39 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Besides the implausibility of Armstrong's proposed non-solution (sovereign bond-to-equity swaps) due to incompatible asset classes and such a swap only being incentivized as a last resort when default is already occurring, the more serious flaw in his proposal is that it perpetuates uneconomic attitudes and behaviour. It rewards those in society who are still stuck in the Industrial Age capitalism, where usury, NAV, and fixed rates of return are a viable investment model. It rewards all those who bought into a top-down managed society. It will sustain disincentives for maximally economic activity. It is moral hazard, because it proposes to steal from the Knowledge Age to make whole the dying Industrial Age and also to make whole all the assholes who got rich on that dead paradigm.

Fuck it! It must crash and burn. That is the only way to usher in the Knowledge Age. Armstrong is blind as a bat. And everyone who follows him into real estate and stocks are going to be expropriated and lose everything.

You've been warned!

As CoinCube has stated, there would be some downsides to an anonymous internet where someone can run a website anonymously:

http://technology.inquirer.net/41598/california-man-gets-18-years-for-us-revenge-porn-site

Would it really be so horrific if people had to become more cautious about their promiscuity?

Someone who does that deserves 18 years in prison. That type of person is a scourge on humanity.

I disagree. That 18 year sentence is a travesty of justice and he shouldn't be remorseful at all. He will be wishing he had used an anonymous internet (naive idiot!).

People need to protect their naked photos, analogously as they don't go walking around nude in the road.

A government that holds everybody's hand, motivates the people to lose their diligence and become apathetic blobs of flesh. For as long as the government will punish the free market for your individual apathy, then the demand for solutions to your need to protect yourself won't exist. You see how trade and free markets work and then don't work when government stomps on them.

He provided a market function. He was helping humanity by fulfilling a demand for information. I have never believed in copyright. We can't protect that which is naturally free. Digital images can not be stopped from being traded. Once we have anonymous internet, there is no reasonable way such laws can be enforced.

Now if he does this to people, they have a right to get angry and extract revenge on him. But the anonymous internet would make the revenge implausible.

Nature does not respect your human desire to top-down dictate what is not economic.

This shows how screwed up the minds are of most people. You don't comprehend economics.

The universe never made any promise to the animal that it wouldn't be eaten by the predator. That is how the predator survives. And the universe never made any promise to you that your digital photos would be protected by the laws of mice and men. An anonymous internet is nature at work. Watch how much more economic nature is than Marxists' attempts to control nature. Armstrong mentions this as a narrower concept when he says Marxists try to control the business cycle, but the concept is more broad actually.

Where we are headed is that the State won't even be able to punish murderers. The State will become impotent. Each person will have to protect him or herself from murderers and predators. Which is the most economic way. It avoids all the collectivism which doesn't work and just corruption.

A collective society needs only trade. We don't need government. Armstrong is incorrect.

[wearefucked]

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Subject: China expert Michael Pettis on debt restructuring
From:    wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 1:31 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://blog.mpettis.com/2015/02/when-do-we-decide-that-europe-must-restructure-much-of-its-debt/#comment-121162

If Mississippi and New York City can share a common monetary policy, and if Anhui province and Shanghai can share a common monetary policy, then very obviously so can Germany and Greece.

...but I don’t see why anyone would argue that it is impossible for Germany and Greece to share a monetary policy without also accepting that the US and China have failed to impose their own currency unions.

Michael, the monetary union of the USA and China was driven by the demand for economies-of-scale in the fixed capital Industrial Age. We are moving to a post-Industrial Age (post tangible resource scarcity) Knowledge Age, wherein capital will not be stored money but rather knowledge. I am the progenitor of this hypothesis.

I detailed my expectations for the monetary future of the world.

Thus all these discussions about restructuring the dying paradigm of usury, NAV, fixed ROI, central banks, centralized monetary systems, are all irrelevant. We are moving to decentralized, anonymous monetary systems. Even if you believe my comment is insane, please let it be published to your blog as matter-of-record that differentiates maverick from rigor. For the future will reveal who was correct.

[wearefucked]

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Subject: Did Armstrong just agree with me?
From:   wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 6:46 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Besides the implausibility of Armstrong's proposed non-solution (sovereign bond-to-equity swaps) due to incompatible asset classes and such a swap only being incentivized as a last resort when default is already occurring, the more serious flaw in his proposal is that it perpetuates uneconomic attitudes and behaviour. It rewards those in society who are still stuck in the Industrial Age capitalism, where usury, NAV, and fixed rates of return are a viable investment model. It rewards all those who bought into a top-down managed society. It will sustain disincentives for maximally economic activity. It is moral hazard, because it proposes to steal from the Knowledge Age to make whole the dying Industrial Age and also to make whole all the assholes who got rich on that dead paradigm.

Fuck it! It must crash and burn. That is the only way to usher in the Knowledge Age.

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A government that holds everybody's hand, motivates the people to lose their diligence and become apathetic blobs of flesh. For as long as the government will punish the free market for your individual apathy, then the demand for solutions to your need to protect yourself won't exist. You see how trade and free markets work and then don't work when government stomps on them.

I am not sure if below Armstrong agreed with my point above, or if he is still clinging to the notion that the citizens should be protected for participating in a top-down collectivized system. Again my point is all those who participated in the top-down attempt to control nature, should (and will!) suffer default (and expropriation). And that is exactly what is coming to fruition, i.e. the costs will be charged to those who were apathetic blobs of flesh instead of individually protecting themselves. If you were stupid enough to trust your life to the top-down, collectivized society, then you will suffer. I saw this coming back as early as 1992 (or earlier) when I campaigned for Ross Perot. I imbued myself with programming Knowledge Age skills, starting from age 13 not just because I liked it, but because I consciously recognized at an early age that the career required no fixed capital investment! Really I developed my Knowledge Age theory about when I was 19 or so (note I will be 50 in June).

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/05/austria-to-default-on-bank-guarantees/

Austria is now planning a far-reaching reform of deposit insurance – default. You pay taxes all your life and you are told government is there to protect you. Austria demonstrates the future all nations will face for they now propose a bill which provides that savers’ deposits in Austria will no longer be guaranteed by government. The banks should be responsible for the safety of savings, not the government. Your taxes are just for their benefit, not to protect the people. This is the latest report from a Viennese newspaper press and standard.

Little by little, we are watching the collapse of government and the entire socialist agenda. Governments are incapable of managing the economy because they are inherently corrupt and cannot function for the benefit of the people when it always becomes a question between funding their life-style v the people. We just have to be honest here and look at this Public v Private battle that has waged since the first person put something on his head and claimed he was king.

Btw, Armstrong had correctly predicted Austria to be ground zero of the domino contagion.

[wearefucked]

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Subject: Internet without my improvements will be DDoS'ed to hell
From:    wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 7:50 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Everything is falling right into place exactly as I anticipated:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6717&cpage=1#comment-1500587
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6717&cpage=1#comment-1500708

The only solution of course is the one I have proposed.

[wearefucked]

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Subject: Armstrong's fundamental myopia: Top-down (fungible) can't beget bottom-up (non-fungible)
From:    wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 9:47 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Armstrong is correct that we are headed into a very impoverishing outcome for those can't make the transition to the Knowledge Age, and especially those who have relied on a society where they will be taken care of by pensions and government.

That bankrupt society is going to expropriate all the stored monetary capital it can find under the guise of providing what was promised by society, but along the way the corruption of this top-down, collectivism is going to waste all those expropriated resources.

Armstrong proposes that the only way we can prosper in a Knowledge Age is to share our production with those who fucked themselves, by doing a debt-to-equity swap and let collective society ride on the back of Knowledge Age productivity in terms of the ROI on equity.

To understand why this can't work, refer to the "Financiability of Knowledge" in my seminal essays linked from the opening post of this thread. Armstrong has a fundamental error, which is that knowledge capital (unlike stored monetary capital) is not fungible! Knowledge production will be generated from the grassroots, not by large publicly traded companies. There is no way to subsidize the Industrial Age economy! It can't be done. That sector is bankrupt and it is impossible to extract value from the Knowledge Age and transfer it to that bankrupt sector.

There is  no way to expropriate the Knowledge Age workers. We will (by necessity) move into a parallel economy with an anonymous, crypto-currency and we will continue to transact even if the brick&mortar economy collapses into riots and looting.

Indeed Armstrong is correct that the brick&mortar economy will fall into a Dark Age. They will eventually do some sort of monetary reset with a one-world reserve currency, but it won't decentralize that monetary system to be compatible with the Knowledge Age. Instead it will simply be a eugenics system for those who stay in that "mainstream" economy. The Knowledge Age economy will be growing while the mainstream economy is withering.

There is no other possibility. Sorry. Wish there was.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/05/trying-to-take-the-next-step-forward-in-economic-evolution/

Trying to Take the Next Step Forward in Economic Evolution

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We either back out of this mess with a restructuring to end federal debt and taxes restoring our liberty or this turns into the bloodbath. There is really no choice because you have so many people who believed in government who have no savings to sustain their retirement for they counted on some program or their pension fund has 40%+ government bonds. We have the evolution process of the economy to technology that is a wave of Creative Destruction rendering a large chunk or society unable to make the transition to a different skill set, and the typical way such waves are resolved has been with war which thins the herd.

Robots will eventually replace the military and police right down to Uber Drivers. This is extremely DEFLATIONARY which is part of the current trend as low skill jobs vanish to the peripheral economies. A reset in diminishing the numbers within the herd may be part of the cycle if we are not careful here.

The danger that is on the horizon becomes the control-alt-delete event. That is when one portion of the global economy advances too fast that it loses touch with the basic fundamentals and the whole thing implodes into a Dark Age. Look at it this way. If there was a massive civil unrest to the point normal commerce ceases to move, NYC has 7 days worth of food. Those people will have to leave the cities and rob the suburbs or starve. They lost the knowledge of how to even grow food.

This is the risk placed on the table with Marxism for it handed power to government and justified its new role as the manipulator. In the process, the majority of people just assume everything tomorrow will be as it is today for government will protect us.

The Private Wave that peaked in 1929.75 justified the shift to government with the new deal beginning with the low in that wave 1934.05. Gold was confiscated right with that turn. The the CONFIDENCE moved back to government and that Public Wave peaked precisely with the peak in interest rate 1981.35. The low of 1985.65 was the birth of G5 and the Plaza Accord. Government has been fighting to regain control during the Private Wave and the world economy will end with a shift to Asia for 2032.95. There is a huge risk that we will NOT have a new age of technology in the West, but this may be akin to the fall of Rome which our advancements have moved too far too fast like the NSA.

Theories of transitions to new eras abound, but lack the research of such events. When jets were introduced, the bulk of pilots who flew prop planes could not make the transition just as others could not make the transition to computers. The same took place in trading. When screens came out, many old traders left for they could not get use to trading over screens. Changes in technology displace jobs and have typically been marked with DEFLATIONARY trends. Unions overpriced themselves at the docks in NYC and today no ships dock there at all. The unions destroyed their own jobs by their greed.

There was an elderly woman in her late 50s who made a comment in the hallway about my staff – Marty and the girls. From her perspective, I hired only young girls, from my perspective they could handle technology she could not. She would rather characterize this as an age bias rather than admit she lacked the skill set necessary for the computer age.

So indeed, welcome to the obsolete world where Marxism is destroying everything for government assumes it is justified to manipulate society. This is the risk we may not make the next step in the evolutionary process to some world of technology marvels. We cannot make this next transition with government simultaneously chasing loose change. For in their pursuit of money and taxes, they destroy the synergy that is critical to bind society into civilization. Cut those silver cords that bind us together turning everyone against one another (see something say something), and we may not make it to the future.

This is why the most critical step here is to remove government from the aggressor mode. We cannot reach a new age as slaves. So this is a full-blow control-alt-delete which you need to get off the grid, or we can reduce the amplitude of the crash and burn to make it to the next step. You will not get to that next step without addressing government.

[wearefucked]

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Internet without my improvements will be DDoS'ed to hell
From:    wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 7:50 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Everything is falling right into place exactly as I anticipated:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6717&cpage=1#comment-1500587
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6717&cpage=1#comment-1500708

The only solution of course is the one I have proposed.

Do understand that DDoS attacks are likely financed by the DEEP STATE, because the only viable way to defend against these attacks is to have anti-DDoS provider which has many nodes at the internet backbone. Such providers are surely receiving national security gag orders or otherwise being compromised by the NSA. Thus your website is effectively at the mercy of the powers-that-be. Worse yet, these providers use their own SSL certificate as proxy except if you pay big money, thus this is another way for the NSA to defeat SSL for millions of smaller websites, e.g. see the free and low-cost options offered by CloudFlare.

[coinits]

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong's proposed non-solution is moral hazard and economic suicide
From:    wearefucked
Date:    Sun, April 5, 2015 12:39 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Besides the implausibility of Armstrong's proposed non-solution (sovereign bond-to-equity swaps) due to incompatible asset classes and such a swap only being incentivized as a last resort when default is already occurring, the more serious flaw in his proposal is that it perpetuates uneconomic attitudes and behaviour. It rewards those in society who are still stuck in the Industrial Age capitalism, where usury, NAV, and fixed rates of return are a viable investment model. It rewards all those who bought into a top-down managed society. It will sustain disincentives for maximally economic activity. It is moral hazard, because it proposes to steal from the Knowledge Age to make whole the dying Industrial Age and also to make whole all the assholes who got rich on that dead paradigm.

Fuck it! It must crash and burn. That is the only way to usher in the Knowledge Age. Armstrong is blind as a bat. And everyone who follows him into real estate and stocks are going to be expropriated and lose everything.

You've been warned!

As CoinCube has stated, there would be some downsides to an anonymous internet where someone can run a website anonymously:

http://technology.inquirer.net/41598/california-man-gets-18-years-for-us-revenge-porn-site

Would it really be so horrific if people had to become more cautious about their promiscuity?

Someone who does that deserves 18 years in prison. That type of person is a scourge on humanity.

I disagree. That 18 year sentence is a travesty of justice and he shouldn't be remorseful at all. He will be wishing he had used an anonymous internet (naive idiot!).

People need to protect their naked photos, analogously as they don't go walking around nude in the road.

A government that holds everybody's hand, motivates the people to lose their diligence and become apathetic blobs of flesh. For as long as the government will punish the free market for your individual apathy, then the demand for solutions to your need to protect yourself won't exist. You see how trade and free markets work and then don't work when government stomps on them.

He provided a market function. He was helping humanity by fulfilling a demand for information. I have never believed in copyright. We can't protect that which is naturally free. Digital images can not be stopped from being traded. Once we have anonymous internet, there is no reasonable way such laws can be enforced.

Now if he does this to people, they have a right to get angry and extract revenge on him. But the anonymous internet would make the revenge implausible.

Nature does not respect your human desire to top-down dictate what is not economic.

This shows how screwed up the minds are of most people. You don't comprehend economics.

The universe never made any promise to the animal that it wouldn't be eaten by the predator. That is how the predator survives. And the universe never made any promise to you that your digital photos would be protected by the laws of mice and men. An anonymous internet is nature at work. Watch how much more economic nature is than Marxists' attempts to control nature. Armstrong mentions this as a narrower concept when he says Marxists try to control the business cycle, but the concept is more broad actually.

Where we are headed is that the State won't even be able to punish murderers. The State will become impotent. Each person will have to protect him or herself from murderers and predators. Which is the most economic way. It avoids all the collectivism which doesn't work and just corruption.

A collective society needs only trade. We don't need government. Armstrong is incorrect.

Wrong. Economics and anonymity do not trump morals nor criminal behavior. This guys is a scumbag and deserves incarceration.

[bigtimespaghetti]

Wrong. Economics and anonymity do not trump morals nor criminal behavior. This guys is a scumbag and deserves incarceration.

coinits, you can't seriously believe posting some images on the internet deserve incarceration? I'm not trying to derail the thread, but while his actions might be immoral I think it's arguable to define it as criminal simply as no-one is being harmed. Please don't bring up the fool that trusted this person with her pictures, she made her decision, let her be an example to others- and so she should be.