Dwarf FPGA – the anti-ASIC

[suchmoon]

I want to lock this thread.


But I can't. 


I'm surprised this obvious scam activity hasn't been cut off by the mods.......   


I know they want to be sure before banning people, etc... but.... this one is pretty blatant guys.....

Scams are not moderated.

[emrebiyikli]

where is the company located? asking to calculate taxes.

[JaredKaragen]

I want to lock this thread.


But I can't. 


I'm surprised this obvious scam activity hasn't been cut off by the mods.......   


I know they want to be sure before banning people, etc... but.... this one is pretty blatant guys.....

Scams are not moderated.

yet they want to do the merit system to prevent.... spam.


spam not ok here...
scam ok here?

[suchmoon]

yet they want to do the merit system to prevent.... spam.

spam not ok here...
scam ok here?

Scams are handled via trust system. Read the rules, link in my sig. This is off topic here. Open a thread on the Meta board if you have any more questions.

[ZaebaloRegitsa4]

Your orders are fixed in the system and goods are reserved for you. Do not worry, your miner will not go to another.

How can I change my payment method?

[VoskCoin]

I want to lock this thread.


But I can't. 


I'm surprised this obvious scam activity hasn't been cut off by the mods.......   


I know they want to be sure before banning people, etc... but.... this one is pretty blatant guys.....

Scams are not moderated.

yet they want to do the merit system to prevent.... spam.


spam not ok here...
scam ok here?

If people choose to risk their own money . . that is their problem it is not like you as well as many others have not voiced concern :O

[ZaebaloRegitsa4]

I can make the device multiply 2 by 2 in an endless loop and it will consume power and produce heat. Same goes for a toaster, it consumes power and makes heat, but doesn't really mine monero, doesn't it ?

Let me be an evil genius  
I make a simple device that can warm up. And which can remotely run the someone rig with same hashrate. It's very easy to organize a commands transfer via the Internet.
I'm absolutely sure all trusted users will be delighted with this device.
And then will eat crow.
Yes, you can check it with a sniffer, but how many bloggers will guess it?
It is not difficult to simulate an interconnection with a pool. You're going to analyze all the network packs?

I look at this stupid tests ideas and I am very upset  

If they could make such a quality forgery, as I can see on the video, they can realize this too. And all your tests will be passed.

The whole crypto market is a risk. This is a great casino! I'm betting on winning and I bought four of them now.
Maybe I'm an idiot and a crow is not lucky too. But when I mine a new shitcoin, I do the same  

[TGJ]

I can make the device multiply 2 by 2 in an endless loop and it will consume power and produce heat. Same goes for a toaster, it consumes power and makes heat, but doesn't really mine monero, doesn't it ?

Let me be an evil genius 
I make a simple device that can warm up. And which can remotely run the someone rig with same hashrate. It's very easy to organize a commands transfer via the Internet.
I'm absolutely sure all trusted users will be delighted with this device.
And then will eat crow.
Yes, you can check it with a sniffer, but how many bloggers will guess it?
It is not difficult to simulate an interconnection with a pool. You're going to analyze all the network packs?

I look at this stupid tests ideas and I am very upset 

If they could make such a quality forgery, as I can see on the video, they can realize this too. And all your tests will be passed.

The whole crypto market is a risk. This is a great casino! I'm betting on winning and I bought four of them now.
Maybe I'm an idiot and a crow is not lucky too. But when I mine a new shitcoin, I do the same 

It is blatantly obvious you are a shill. Look at the last posts of this guy. Just one more confirmation that this is a scam.

[ZaebaloRegitsa4]

It is blatantly obvious you are a shill. Look at the last posts of this guy. Just one more confirmation that this is a scam.

I'm the only one who tries to think as an engineer.
Above a few home gamers are discussing about the board.
Shills scream about the scam but can not substantiate it. They even do not understand how the FPGA works!   Only one technical question for five pages - remove the heat sink. What the fk are you going to see there? Snow white and the seven dwarfs? Or some unnamed chips tell you something?

[molivil]

The whole crypto market is a risk. This is a great casino! I'm betting on winning and I bought four of them now.

Sorry for your loss.

[DwarfMiner]

--There are some very bright people who are working on FPGA's on this forum and the price for entry is 3000-5000 to start according to them.
You confuse the cost from a digikey and naked crystals. Even the usual wholesale purchase reduces the cost by half.

--so tempting but i would like to wait for 2nd batch perhaps.
It will be in July, we are preparing to produce 25,000 pieces batch.

--I see a lot of pastors in a brothel here 
Everyone has the right to doubt. But here too confidently accused device that had never seen before. :-)

--a vcu1525 can do 70k
18k.

--a vcu1525 can do 70k (according to reports so that is not worth much) for more than 10 time that price
Because this chip was not designed for the cryptonight algorithm.
The Lamborghini's power exceeds the power of the tractor. But no one uses lamborghini as a tractor or a track.
The same story with GPU. You can see the colossal hr difference on different algos.

--Not an excuse to not send a sample board to a trusted member for a review. I don't how the amount of orders are connected to sending a sample board.
--One thing I am seriously struggling with is the blatant disregard to answering a vetted trusted member, after the insane amount of requests by the community.
In each answer I repeat the same thing. When all trusted users will finish the tests and reviews, the fork time will come.
We have three prototypes only. Previously they were platforms for software debugging. Now they are in the factory as references. We do not have free devices.

--you have no consideration for transparency and ethos, and are in it for a quick buck.
How many devices did you prepare for release and produced serially?

--Heck, even a $29 buck shopify store even without a custom domain would look better.
I understood. You need beautiful pack and colorful ribbons...
But a beautiful store will not allow you to place PayPal and crypto together. Even crypto will not allow.

--the unit so big pockets would buy it in bulk
it happens right now. We do not sell this lot to big pockets (we are not ready to do customs clearance), but the next batch is almost all reserved. We even get hiring suggestions :-)

--you would be stupid not to do this and it would just stal new orders.
What's the point in a large number of orders if you can not handle them? If you do not have resources for production?
You are discussing how to sell a million devices, but no one is thinking about production and logistics. It's terrible.

--we all know that currently there are stickers hiding chip information.
And this too. But the main chip has no analogues. This is our original development. You can not replicate this product at home.

--But they all sign with /July. Not sure what to think about that tbh!
I wrote earlier, we asked developers to help July, because she needed to sleep sometime :-)

--and decided to use some free platform to sell their stuff
Why do you think this is a free platform?..

--They sent me the BTC address within a few hours
BTC transactions are processed by two clicks. This is much easier than other types of payment. For example, a bank transfer will require your ID-card scan.

--set up an Amazon account
We are in Europe.
Alipay is much more convenient us I can see. And we are working to this direction.

--I ordered two early on  because reasons, but they never responded to me for PayPal payment or otherwise.
Because we temporarily do not accept paypal and it's written a few pages earlier.
But your order is fixed in the system and your miner(s) is reserved for you.

--Not sure how Amazon selling will work across the globe.
badly. And the delivery methods are limited.
We want to be placed on the aliexpress. It's much more convenient.

--How can I change my payment method?
You must write the number of your order to e-mail dwarfminersales@hotmail.com and request a change of the payment metthod.

--What the fk are you going to see there? Snow white and the seven dwarfs?
Maybe a toaster? :-)
I think I can show a snow-white https://mega.nz/#!aTJGwACY!b_cpexS1QQS40V8U8BQhyplipgEHgl76yAeVCb1F0BY
She's a little shy...

[GPUHoarder]

--There are some very bright people who are working on FPGA's on this forum and the price for entry is 3000-5000 to start according to them.
You confuse the cost from a digikey and naked crystals. Even the usual wholesale purchase reduces the cost by half.

--so tempting but i would like to wait for 2nd batch perhaps.
It will be in July, we are preparing to produce 25,000 pieces batch.

--I see a lot of pastors in a brothel here 
Everyone has the right to doubt. But here too confidently accused device that had never seen before. :-)

--a vcu1525 can do 70k
18k.

--a vcu1525 can do 70k (according to reports so that is not worth much) for more than 10 time that price
Because this chip was not designed for the cryptonight algorithm.
The Lamborghini's power exceeds the power of the tractor. But no one uses lamborghini as a tractor or a track.
The same story with GPU. You can see the colossal hr difference on different algos.

--Not an excuse to not send a sample board to a trusted member for a review. I don't how the amount of orders are connected to sending a sample board.
--One thing I am seriously struggling with is the blatant disregard to answering a vetted trusted member, after the insane amount of requests by the community.
In each answer I repeat the same thing. When all trusted users will finish the tests and reviews, the fork time will come.
We have three prototypes only. Previously they were platforms for software debugging. Now they are in the factory as references. We do not have free devices.

--you have no consideration for transparency and ethos, and are in it for a quick buck.
How many devices did you prepare for release and produced serially?

--Heck, even a $29 buck shopify store even without a custom domain would look better.
I understood. You need beautiful pack and colorful ribbons...
But a beautiful store will not allow you to place PayPal and crypto together. Even crypto will not allow.

--the unit so big pockets would buy it in bulk
it happens right now. We do not sell this lot to big pockets (we are not ready to do customs clearance), but the next batch is almost all reserved. We even get hiring suggestions :-)

--you would be stupid not to do this and it would just stal new orders.
What's the point in a large number of orders if you can not handle them? If you do not have resources for production?
You are discussing how to sell a million devices, but no one is thinking about production and logistics. It's terrible.

--we all know that currently there are stickers hiding chip information.
And this too. But the main chip has no analogues. This is our original development. You can not replicate this product at home.

--But they all sign with /July. Not sure what to think about that tbh!
I wrote earlier, we asked developers to help July, because she needed to sleep sometime :-)

--and decided to use some free platform to sell their stuff
Why do you think this is a free platform?..

--They sent me the BTC address within a few hours
BTC transactions are processed by two clicks. This is much easier than other types of payment. For example, a bank transfer will require your ID-card scan.

--set up an Amazon account
We are in Europe.
Alipay is much more convenient us I can see. And we are working to this direction.

--I ordered two early on  because reasons, but they never responded to me for PayPal payment or otherwise.
Because we temporarily do not accept paypal and it's written a few pages earlier.
But your order is fixed in the system and your miner(s) is reserved for you.

--Not sure how Amazon selling will work across the globe.
badly. And the delivery methods are limited.
We want to be placed on the aliexpress. It's much more convenient.

--How can I change my payment method?
You must write the number of your order to e-mail dwarfminersales@hotmail.com and request a change of the payment metthod.

--What the fk are you going to see there? Snow white and the seven dwarfs?
Maybe a toaster? :-)
I think I can show a snow-white https://mega.nz/#!aTJGwACY!b_cpexS1QQS40V8U8BQhyplipgEHgl76yAeVCb1F0BY
She's a little shy...

Based on Snow White, you need ~ 250 GB/s to achieve, maybe less because you have some onboard SRAM. 4 chips GDDR sized, maybe dual ported QDR. Let’s give you 128 bit interfwce, at 7Gbps (GDDR). You have 112 Gbps, let’s assume good in-chip SRAM. You have more than enough AES. You need 4W for the ram minimum, maybe other chip is efficient AES chip? so just housekeeping in FPGA?

It is reasonable. 50% markup on BOM.

[chup]

--Not sure how Amazon selling will work across the globe.
badly. And the delivery methods are limited.
We want to be placed on the aliexpress. It's much more convenient.

                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You should have done this first.

[yrk1957]

Based on Snow White, you need ~ 250 GB/s to achieve, maybe less because you have some onboard SRAM. 4 chips GDDR sized, maybe dual ported QDR. Let’s give you 128 bit interfwce, at 7Gbps (GDDR). You have 112 Gbps, let’s assume good in-chip SRAM. You have more than enough AES. You need 4W for the ram minimum, maybe other chip is efficient AES chip? so just housekeeping in FPGA?

It is reasonable. 50% markup on BOM.

Assuming it’s technically reasonable, I am not sure this has a life beyond 3 months.

At 25,000 units, this will 1/3rd of Monero Hashrate, leading to another Monero fork pretty soon. And if Bitmain or like is on their heels, it will be even worse.

And who knows whether the next fork will be adaptable for this or other FPGAs.

[GPUHoarder]

Based on Snow White, you need ~ 250 GB/s to achieve, maybe less because you have some onboard SRAM. 4 chips GDDR sized, maybe dual ported QDR. Let’s give you 128 bit interfwce, at 7Gbps (GDDR). You have 112 Gbps, let’s assume good in-chip SRAM. You have more than enough AES. You need 4W for the ram minimum, maybe other chip is efficient AES chip? so just housekeeping in FPGA?

It is reasonable. 50% markup on BOM.

Assuming it’s technically reasonable, I am not sure this has a life beyond 3 months.

At 25,000 units, this will 1/3rd of Monero Hashrate, leading to another Monero fork pretty soon. And if Bitmain or like is on their heels, it will be even worse.

And who knows whether the next fork will be adaptable for this or other FPGAs.

The big FPGAs are capable 19+ sustained KH (dwarfminer actually confirmed such a close accurate number earlier I believe they’ve done it..

[melpheos]

Based on Snow White, you need ~ 250 GB/s to achieve, maybe less because you have some onboard SRAM. 4 chips GDDR sized, maybe dual ported QDR. Let’s give you 128 bit interfwce, at 7Gbps (GDDR). You have 112 Gbps, let’s assume good in-chip SRAM. You have more than enough AES. You need 4W for the ram minimum, maybe other chip is efficient AES chip? so just housekeeping in FPGA?

It is reasonable. 50% markup on BOM.

Assuming it’s technically reasonable, I am not sure this has a life beyond 3 months.

At 25,000 units, this will 1/3rd of Monero Hashrate, leading to another Monero fork pretty soon. And if Bitmain or like is on their heels, it will be even worse.

And who knows whether the next fork will be adaptable for this or other FPGAs.

The big FPGAs are capable 19+ sustained KH (dwarfminer actually confirmed such a close accurate number earlier I believe they’ve done it). Heck between mine and my GPUs I was 1% of the hashrate for a minute during dip after fork. Monero needs to move to an actually resistant algorithm if they don’t want this kind of trouble.

Monero cannot fork it's algo every three months. Even every 6 months is problematic for the network. But if dwarfminer unit is legit, Monero would have to fork to something completely different to exclude this fpga which can be update the next day.
ASIC is not a problem as it takes a few months to make a new batch.
30000 units would represent 1/3 of the network hashrate if every unit is on monero but those unit are still far less dangerous than ASICs but will definitely exclude GPU and CPU thanks to their power efficiency (mainly AMD GPU obviously as no sane mind would use nvidia GPU to mine cryptonight algo)

[xpm-guru_v2]

--set up an Amazon account
We are in Europe.
Alipay is much more convenient us I can see. And we are working to this direction.

Alipay is good if you can implement it.

[Haryuki]

Hello,

It's very strange, I was refunded by Paypal

[Sebahl]

I have a few questions:
When will PayPal be available again? When will you be on AliExpress?
Can you give us some more information about you/your company? That would reinforce trust.
Also: can you mine to a pool address with the FPGA and share the address? That way we can see that it works continuously.


Thanks

[DwarfMiner]

Hi all!
We regret to inform you we decided to not use Paypal more. To all who have already paid via Paypal, we have requested a refund. Be calm, all money will return to you.
If you have any problems with the refund you should inform us via e-mail or in this thread.
Your order is maintained for 5 days. During this time you can choose another payment method or cancel the order.
We are truly sorry for the inconvenience.