Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution.

[niothor]

http://youtu.be/4qSBm5xWfxQ

Superpowers flexing their muscles , and innocent people suffering from it.
Humans are the brightest creatures on this planet ? Guess not.

[humanitee]

A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if Putin’s troops intervene.

The Budapest Memorandum was signed by Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine – as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union

Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.

Sir Tony Brenton, who served as British Ambassador from 2004 to 2008, said that war could be an option ‘if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding.’

It promises to protect Ukraine’s borders, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

Today Kiev has demanded the agreement is activated after insisting their borders had been violated.

In response Mr Brenton said in a BBC radio interview: ‘If indeed this is a Russian invasion of Crimea and if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding then it’s very difficult to avoid the conclusion that we’re going to go to war with Russia’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570335/Former-British-Ambassador-Moscow-warns-Russia-invaded-Ukraine-difficult-avoid-going-war.html

Relevant quotes from the Budapest Memorandum:

"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used."

"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will consult in the event a situation arises which raises a question concerning these commitments."

The Consulting
Russia: We want this
US: Shit.. bro you signed this doc
UK: Yeah mang, quit that shit
Russia: Fucks given == none, peace
US: wat
UK: God dammit Russia

Ending TBD

[TheIrishman]

Ukraine PM warns of war as Russian military seizes control in Crimea

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/01/ukraine-warns-russia-military-crimea-intervention-war

"Kiev puts armed forces on full combat alert. Putin and Obama hold 90-minute call over crisis. UN security council meets for emergency talks."

Like I wrote here 10 days ago, the parallels between Putin's and Hitler's ascension to power and subsequent actions is crystal clear.

[Rassah]

Russian soldiers are just standing around doing shit, providing "security." As bad as that may seem, I think it may be better to just let people stand around doing shit, than turn it into a full war that none of the citizens, neither in Crimea, nor rest of Ukraine, want. And I can't think of any options that Obama might have that would not result in bullets flying.

[olexx]

TIME: Pro-Russian citizens genuinely fear the new Ukrainian government is fascistic and will persecute them

http://world.time.com/2014/03/01/many-ukrainians-want-russia-to-invade/

[pioter]

thats obv you should never trust a russian.

[miketonic]

Oh boy this doesn't look good..

[myself]

i leave this link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_sovereignty_referendum,_1991

A referendum on sovereignty was held in Crimean Oblast on 20 January 1991.[1] Voters were asked whether they wanted to re-establish the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, which had been abolished in 1945. The proposal was approved by 94% of voters.

[Lethn]

Oh boy this doesn't look good..

It is bloody worrying, this kind of thing is exactly what triggers a world war, a super power gets cocky and then everybody else gets dragged into it.

[masterluc]

I am Ukrainian, live in Ukraine. And here what I think.

Most of protestors were peaceful. But Libia, Egypt and Syria scenario had been played in full. Now far-right forces got the power and terrify people here. Especially russian-spoken people who live in Crimea and South-East.

No police. No laws. Only fear.

Russian army really invaded Crimea to stop those neo-fascists called right sector. And this was without any battle, as most crimeans are russians and they support Russian army.

New neo fascist government now mobilizes regular citizens to fight againsts russian professionals without weapons (all weapons were  already sold to Georgia and other hot spots through corruption schemes). I don't take this mobilization seriosly, because this would bee shoot in the meat.

Future. I think World War 3 will start from here. Unfortunately.  Thanks to EU/US who actively supported fascists.

[myself]

^ lucif get your btc money and run away

[masterluc]

^ lucif get your btc money and run away

Hehe. Where to run? To other globe? This is world war start. Probably nuclear.

[Spendulus]

A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if Putin’s troops intervene.

The Budapest Memorandum was signed by Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine – as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union

Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.

Sir Tony Brenton, who served as British Ambassador from 2004 to 2008, said that war could be an option ‘if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding.’

It promises to protect Ukraine’s borders, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

Today Kiev has demanded the agreement is activated after insisting their borders had been violated.....

No, this is simply not true.

Obama would have zero support for military intervention or action such as this.

Zero.

[myself]

^ lucif get your btc money and run away

Hehe. Where to run? To other globe? This is world war start. Probably nuclear.

if is going nuclear spend all money on hookers and vodka

[myself]

I add this map here so ppl can get how complex this situation is 

[rmines]

Oh boy this doesn't look good..

It is bloody worrying, this kind of thing is exactly what triggers a world war, a super power gets cocky and then everybody else gets dragged into it.

Exactly. I sure hope Russia won't invade Eastern Ukrain. Some fired shots should be enough to escalate this incident into a war.

[masterluc]

Oh boy this doesn't look good..

It is bloody worrying, this kind of thing is exactly what triggers a world war, a super power gets cocky and then everybody else gets dragged into it.

Exactly. I sure hope Russia won't invade Eastern Ukrain. Some fired shots should be enough to escalate this incident into a war.

World war

[GambitBTC]

Oh boy this doesn't look good..

It is bloody worrying, this kind of thing is exactly what triggers a world war, a super power gets cocky and then everybody else gets dragged into it.

Exactly. I sure hope Russia won't invade Eastern Ukrain. Some fired shots should be enough to escalate this incident into a war.

World war

I hardly think this is going to spark a world war


We wont have another World War in our lifetime

[masterluc]

I hardly think this is going to spark a world war

We wont have another World War in our lifetime

Looks like US and EU wants war if they support fascists in our territory.

[GambitBTC]

I hardly think this is going to spark a world war

We wont have another World War in our lifetime

Looks like US and EU wants war if they support fascists in our territory.

Would hardly be a "war" though.


It's quite one sided