fair comments, ok now another try...
Why are we arguing about the state than at all, the state is just a puppet bankers push in our faces as a distraction. Shouldn't we be more concerned about private central banks than? Politicians are just puppets used to distract the mob, are they not?
So is religion and another "mob dope" alike around... gotta give some credit to the scammer who came up with religions; a scam where the victim just finds out to be scammed after death is more than perfect - no complaints filed and the scam rolls, well, has been rolling for more than 8.000 years by now.
Politicians are more than puppets to entertain the mob, their puppet strings are mostly in the hands of those private central banks' owners and will do whatever the puppet master tells them to.
But why does people allow this?
Because it depends on "the carrot" they put in front of them. If religions goes by "do this and I promise you heaven", politicians goes by "do this and I promise you security" (yes, the overall "job" of a government is not much different than a nation-wide mafia; Pay your "protection" or they will come to pick you up), bankers by "do this and I promise you money".
In the end these 3 groups are the major groups jumping in your back, the religions to lesser extent lately on the West, and put a carrot in the end of a fishing rod to make you move... you keep moving, never get the carrot, but as long as you see the carrot there you go. Practical...
Illustrating; there you go:
EDIT: I'm sorry to put here "religion", and I'll avoid any "my god is better than yours senseless chat", it's just those 3 groups primarily aims for one single purpose: «control what you do». Couldn't odd religions out also on this one, sorry.
