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July 11, 2018, 05:59:47 PM |
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The government can now track down bitcoin users by looking at KYC data from an exchanger, but that's a difficult thing to do because the exchangers are very strict about maintaining the privacy of their users.
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July 11, 2018, 06:20:38 PM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
By tracking some bitcoin addresses that are still active in their country it's easy. Because now it's easy to track IPs someone is who used bitcoins. And in the end you will be caught because you also already know that bitcoin is banned in your country. Yes, there is some way that bitcoin transaction being tracked back. Everyone can see the transaction, after all. That's why what so-called "privacy coin" exist. They provide better transaction system that untraceable, for example, is monero. You can break the chain of bitcoin transaction to monero and back to bitcoin. You can use Shapeshift. If you do it, there is no chance that government know that you have bitcoin.
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July 12, 2018, 01:28:59 AM |
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There are a lot of ways that the government can trace you if you have BTC because the government has almost have all the resources. If they are really eager to trace you if you have BTC they will go with the government agencies which are searching or responsible with the modernization or with the technologies. We all know the BTC is connected with the internet which we can say that it can be easily trace especially if we have a weak protection with our accounts in the web. Well if your government allows you to use BTC you don’t need to worry of it because BTC is not an illegal thing.
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July 12, 2018, 02:02:40 AM |
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Perhaps the government can track BTC when banks use btc as proof of their transactions may be new government can track the existence of btc maybe that's the only way to be able to track the existence of btc
I dont think so. because we know everyone can create as many addresses as they want in their wallet right?. so even though the government knows one's address they have. but they will not be able to trace at another address because bitcoin is anonymous.
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July 12, 2018, 02:54:38 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
The only way they can make a connection with you is through the exchange, because if you deposit fiat money than the exchange knows it's you, and can give those info to the government. Otherwise a only crypto exchange has no way to know who you are.
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July 12, 2018, 03:05:11 AM |
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Bitcoin ownership can not be checked by anyone as long as you keep it a secret.Many way they can know about bitcoin transaction but government still banned bitcoin.So, there is a high guarantee that the govenrnment cannot trace all of us Bitcoin users.
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July 12, 2018, 03:18:10 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
Yeah maybe they will know you have btc but they can never know your identity. The good thing about bitcoin is you can stay anonymous just be careful of exposing your identity when handling bitcoin though.
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July 12, 2018, 03:39:22 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
I dont think its that simple for them to find you out, the whole concept of bitcoin is focusing on decentrilization, meaning there is no middle men to record your identity in your transactions, bitcoin provides anonymity of each users, cracking it down is very impossible If government is not able to track bitcoin then the government has no basis to legalize the cryptocurrency. They are not allowing this is one of the reason. One can track through KYC norms and details can be taken from exchanges.
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July 12, 2018, 03:40:24 AM |
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Why are you so worried about that? if you have not did anything wrong, then there is nothing that you need to be worried about this, because they are not going to trace a dummie. So better to be quiet about this situation, if you are innocent, of course.
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July 12, 2018, 04:02:31 AM |
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Bitcoin transactions and identity are all anonymous. The government can trace you if you use a local wallet to transfer or transact money within the local sovereignity. so it's very hard to find who is the owner of bitcoin. because bitcoin has an anonymous nature.
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July 12, 2018, 04:04:25 AM |
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the goverment can't trace your bitcoin except you use an exchange that requires identity verification like kyc, they can track your bitcoin
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July 12, 2018, 04:06:14 AM |
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The government can track your wallet, determine your IP address, and then you will be able to find you by knowing your location and your identity. This requires a certain amount of time and technology. If you are just an ordinary transaction, the government has no reason to ask you for trouble, but if it is illegal illegal transactions, the government will certainly trace it.
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July 12, 2018, 04:38:58 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
The government can track you through Exchange that forces you to do KYC. Each country has different regulations on Bitcoin. Example: Bitcoin ban in Indonesia: Bitcoin in Indonesia is prohibited to be used as a substitute for the country's currency. Please note that Prohibition against Bitcoin applies only if you use it to buy or pay for something in a store or supermarket. So there is no prohibition for you to buy and have Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is global and personal.
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July 12, 2018, 04:48:35 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
Usually it's easy to track cryptocurrency transaction but hard to relate that transaction to a specific person. They need a starting point connected to you, such as a exchange that has your personal info. If you only buy and sell cryptos than it's almost impossible to prove you own a wallet.
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July 12, 2018, 05:42:47 AM |
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Well right now coinbase are required to report yearly to the government.
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July 12, 2018, 05:48:56 AM |
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I think government can trace that you have bitcoin through KYC that implemented now by most of the exchange. Bitcoin transaction is anonymous but if you reveal your identity like doing kyc,they have a way to trace your bitcoin.
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July 12, 2018, 05:51:18 AM |
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This issue is one of the reasons why cryptocurrency is yet to be generally accepted.
There's no measure in place to link cryptocurrency to its owner offchain.
I think if the kyc in exchanges and wallets are improved on , linking one to his/her cryptocurrenc will be a walk over.
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July 12, 2018, 05:56:28 AM |
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After reading some replies on this topic, it seems that there is some misconception among people that Bitcoin is completely anonymous. However, that's not the fact and the government can track the source of the transaction with reverse engineering method. It is proved again and again, * Woman busted sending thousands in bitcoin to ISIS.
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July 12, 2018, 05:57:11 AM |
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The government can't track you, you're anonymous when you use bitcoin. They can only know you have btc but your identity will remain as anonymous.
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July 12, 2018, 06:01:08 AM |
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Having gone through all the messages and suggestions, I can summarize it by saying;
Government can only trace you if you registered on any platform or exchanges with your KYC.
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