8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place.

[Suslived]

cant pay me to buy a refurb psu, 1 in 5 regular 5 year warranty psus will die wit continuous mining use i have found in 2 - 4 years on average, brand doesn’t matter, rossville quarks, evga platinums, xfx plats etc etc

u have 10 psu sitting here waiting for waranty returns along with 30 amd gpus lol

waranties matter folks, a refurb waranty is 1 year, just enough time for it to die and leave u stuck with a brick

theres a reason why most platinum psu vendors offer 5 to 10 year waranties

But it's Corsair.

I would understand if it's some smaller company like bequiet, cougar, chinese, or whatever is cool nowadays. I believe they also have a reputation to maintain which is why they won't just sell items that are easily broken. If only i needed a PSU, i would get one.

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[fr4nkthetank]

I bought three refurbished Corsai PSU 1200AXI, two died just after a year. The warranty was one year.

If you paid with a credit card, they may extend the warranty period if the manufacturer refuses it.  Dont know if its only new stuff though.  I know my little brother uses all the small print on his credit card. 

[molivil]

But it's Corsair.

I've recently heard many people having issues with Corsairs within the past couple of years. Some people reported lower quality parts in their newer PSU's. Not sure about quality, that's more or less hearsay. At least I've seen members at Bitcointalk and BitsBeTrippin reporting high failure rates.

[philipma1957]

But it's Corsair.

I've recently heard many people having issues with Corsairs within the past couple of years. Some people reported lower quality parts in their newer PSU's. Not sure about quality, that's more or less hearsay. At least I've seen members at Bitcointalk and BitsBeTrippin reporting high failure rates.

the list of atx company that had failed psus

rosewill
seasonic
antec
evga
fractal

notice the major company I left off.  I won't write the name as I do not want to jinx myself.

Atx psu's do break with 24/7 use

[Marvell2]

 corsair.com has a  sale    MEMORIAL2018   is discount code on all refurbished goods.

So the 1500 watt titanium ax1500i  refurb  is 350 -20% =  280  pretty good price

the rm1000x refurb is 140 - 28 = 112 good price for a 1000 watt gold psu.

I go9t this item

Flash Voyager® GTX USB 3.0 256GB Flash Drive (Refurbished)
CMFVYGTX3-256GB/RF
In Stock
Extra 20% Off Certified Refurbished!



https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Flash-Voyager-256GB-CMFVYGTX3-256GB/dp/B00LJWSHT4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

it is fast and pretty good price for a 256gb stick that is basically an ssd.

cant pay me to buy a refurb psu, 1 in 5 regular 5 year warranty psus will die wit continuous mining use i have found in 2 - 4 years on average, brand doesn’t matter, rossville quarks, evga platinums, xfx plats etc etc

u have 10 psu sitting here waiting for waranty returns along with 30 amd gpus lol

waranties matter folks, a refurb waranty is 1 year, just enough time for it to die and leave u stuck with a brick

theres a reason why most platinum psu vendors offer 5 to 10 year waranties

I bought three refurbished Corsai PSU 1200AXI, two died just after a year. The warranty was one year.

same corsair is hit or miss i always get extended waranties on thos , matter of fact one died today paid $200 for it refurb, a 1200 wat axi

its heading back to microcenter after i take this shower lol

[rs1x]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

[DesertMiner]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

Your best bet would be Nicehash for btc payouts as they are the most reliable.

Zpool worked fine for me, the income varies a lot based on luck tho. YMMV

Prohashing had an hour of downtime yesterday on equihash but I think you can mine solo there too.

[citronick]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

I have used all of the above pools and more, still using NH for some rigs, over last 3 years.

After all of that, I settled for Prohashing.com

I have consolidated 21GHs of Scrypt, 110TH of SHA256, 350GHs of D3s and 30% of the NVIDIA farm to send Equihash hash to Prohashing.com

From there, I get/select 4 coins to 4 address portioned 30%, 30%, 30% and 10%

The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

Previously, I selected only 2 coins at 50% each but decided to also collect a few gems in the Prohashing.com list (that includes Ripple, ZEN, etc.)

I am tired of chasing ASICs and getting into the GPU vs ASICs dilemma - so I buy all the ASICs and GPUs needed when price is right, and just point them to Prohashing.com

[rs1x]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

I have used all of the above pools and more, still using NH for some rigs, over last 3 years.

After all of that, I settled for Prohashing.com

I have consolidated 21GHs of Scrypt, 110TH of SHA256, 350GHs of D3s and 30% of the NVIDIA farm to send Equihash hash to Prohashing.com

From there, I get/select 4 coins to 4 address portioned 30%, 30%, 30% and 10%

The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

Previously, I selected only 2 coins at 50% each but decided to also collect a few gems in the Prohashing.com list (that includes Ripple, ZEN, etc.)

I am tired of chasing ASICs and getting into the GPU vs ASICs dilemma - so I buy all the ASICs and GPUs needed when price is right, and just point them to Prohashing.com

Is it fair to say you're using Prohashing because of their powerful payout mechanism?  Or do you think for a smaller miner, their payouts are on par or better than ZPOOL and ahashpool?


I am also experimenting with Prohashing.  I like it.  I don't like that there was some sort of an outage yesterday, I don't think it was a long one, but some of my stuff failed over to the second pool configured.

[citronick]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

I have used all of the above pools and more, still using NH for some rigs, over last 3 years.

After all of that, I settled for Prohashing.com

I have consolidated 21GHs of Scrypt, 110TH of SHA256, 350GHs of D3s and 30% of the NVIDIA farm to send Equihash hash to Prohashing.com

From there, I get/select 4 coins to 4 address portioned 30%, 30%, 30% and 10%

The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

Previously, I selected only 2 coins at 50% each but decided to also collect a few gems in the Prohashing.com list (that includes Ripple, ZEN, etc.)

I am tired of chasing ASICs and getting into the GPU vs ASICs dilemma - so I buy all the ASICs and GPUs needed when price is right, and just point them to Prohashing.com

Is it fair to say you're using Prohashing because of their powerful payout mechanism?  Or do you think for a smaller miner, their payouts are on par or better than ZPOOL and ahashpool?


I am also experimenting with Prohashing.  I like it.  I don't like that there was some sort of an outage yesterday, I don't think it was a long one, but some of my stuff failed over to the second pool configured.

Usually, compensation is paid out during outtage, at Prohashing.
Just ensure your failover pools are active.

Depending on your strategy:

IMHO

For small miners and looking for ease of use = Nicehash (with stable & regular payouts to BTC only)

[Elder III]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

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The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

You're someone that knows there stuff and I respect your opinion/insight when it comes to mining.  I was curious as to why you have DeepOnion in that list?  I have thought of it as a shady sh*tcoin but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it.

[rs1x]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

I have used all of the above pools and more, still using NH for some rigs, over last 3 years.

After all of that, I settled for Prohashing.com

I have consolidated 21GHs of Scrypt, 110TH of SHA256, 350GHs of D3s and 30% of the NVIDIA farm to send Equihash hash to Prohashing.com

From there, I get/select 4 coins to 4 address portioned 30%, 30%, 30% and 10%

The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

Previously, I selected only 2 coins at 50% each but decided to also collect a few gems in the Prohashing.com list (that includes Ripple, ZEN, etc.)

I am tired of chasing ASICs and getting into the GPU vs ASICs dilemma - so I buy all the ASICs and GPUs needed when price is right, and just point them to Prohashing.com

Is it fair to say you're using Prohashing because of their powerful payout mechanism?  Or do you think for a smaller miner, their payouts are on par or better than ZPOOL and ahashpool?


I am also experimenting with Prohashing.  I like it.  I don't like that there was some sort of an outage yesterday, I don't think it was a long one, but some of my stuff failed over to the second pool configured.

Usually, compensation is paid out during outtage, at Prohashing.
Just ensure your failover pools are active.

Depending on your strategy:

IMHO

For small miners and looking for ease of use = Nicehash (with stable & regular payouts to BTC only)

Thank you very much. As Elder says I appreciate your opinion and input a lot.

[citronick]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

I have used all of the above pools and more, still using NH for some rigs, over last 3 years.

After all of that, I settled for Prohashing.com

I have consolidated 21GHs of Scrypt, 110TH of SHA256, 350GHs of D3s and 30% of the NVIDIA farm to send Equihash hash to Prohashing.com

From there, I get/select 4 coins to 4 address portioned 30%, 30%, 30% and 10%

The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

Previously, I selected only 2 coins at 50% each but decided to also collect a few gems in the Prohashing.com list (that includes Ripple, ZEN, etc.)

I am tired of chasing ASICs and getting into the GPU vs ASICs dilemma - so I buy all the ASICs and GPUs needed when price is right, and just point them to Prohashing.com

Is it fair to say you're using Prohashing because of their powerful payout mechanism?  Or do you think for a smaller miner, their payouts are on par or better than ZPOOL and ahashpool?


I am also experimenting with Prohashing.  I like it.  I don't like that there was some sort of an outage yesterday, I don't think it was a long one, but some of my stuff failed over to the second pool configured.

Usually, compensation is paid out during outtage, at Prohashing.
Just ensure your failover pools are active.

Depending on your strategy:

IMHO

For small miners and looking for ease of use = Nicehash (with stable & regular payouts to BTC only)

Thank you very much. As Elder says I appreciate your opinion and input a lot.

Sometimes chasing that perfect fit for our mining hardware doesn't give us the best result long term.

What is more important is the ROI period of our investments, so that we are able to stay in the game.

Therefore, some form of strategy to select the best GPU or ASIC for the best algo must be a primary strategy.

I hope more miners, esp new comers begin to identify a good clear strategy before taking the plunge because mining vs trading vs investing are clearly 3 different options. A 10k investment on a 8 x 1080ti Rig for example deliver a different outcome, compared to taking that 10k and buy BTC at crypto exchange -- and sell when high, buy when low.

[Marvell2]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool


i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

I have used all of the above pools and more, still using NH for some rigs, over last 3 years.

After all of that, I settled for Prohashing.com

I have consolidated 21GHs of Scrypt, 110TH of SHA256, 350GHs of D3s and 30% of the NVIDIA farm to send Equihash hash to Prohashing.com

From there, I get/select 4 coins to 4 address portioned 30%, 30%, 30% and 10%

The 4 coins that I selected currently are BTC, ETH, LTC and DeepOnion.

Previously, I selected only 2 coins at 50% each but decided to also collect a few gems in the Prohashing.com list (that includes Ripple, ZEN, etc.)

I am tired of chasing ASICs and getting into the GPU vs ASICs dilemma - so I buy all the ASICs and GPUs needed when price is right, and just point them to Prohashing.com

Is it fair to say you're using Prohashing because of their powerful payout mechanism?  Or do you think for a smaller miner, their payouts are on par or better than ZPOOL and ahashpool?


I am also experimenting with Prohashing.  I like it.  I don't like that there was some sort of an outage yesterday, I don't think it was a long one, but some of my stuff failed over to the second pool configured.

Usually, compensation is paid out during outtage, at Prohashing.
Just ensure your failover pools are active.

Depending on your strategy:

IMHO

For small miners and looking for ease of use = Nicehash (with stable & regular payouts to BTC only)

Thank you very much. As Elder says I appreciate your opinion and input a lot.

Sometimes chasing that perfect fit for our mining hardware doesn't give us the best result long term.

What is more important is the ROI period of our investments, so that we are able to stay in the game.

Therefore, some form of strategy to select the best GPU or ASIC for the best algo must be a primary strategy.

I hope more miners, esp new comers begin to identify a good clear strategy before taking the plunge because mining vs trading vs investing are clearly 3 different options. A 10k investment on a 8 x 1080ti Rig for example deliver a different outcome, compared to taking that 10k and buy BTC at crypto exchange -- and sell when high, buy when low.

my current strategy is all Gpu, been buying more 1070ti and 1070s at last years msp

i will mine the hell out of raven pigioen, reden and proton and maybe loki using a private
pool so we get lots of extra blocks rather than pool mining.

that is possibl for small farms since the x16 algos have not been contaminated by asics yet

this time we wil be holding our coins tho.

this same grp mined 8k ethereum back in 2015 but none of us held

not going to make that mistake again.

I advise you guys to join smaller pools and do the same, thats how we mined so much ethereum back in 2016
fr

[grchina]

Dont know if anyone saw or posted this since you guys are discussing about asics thought that you mind find this interesting,7nm btc asic
https://news.bitcoin.com/japans-internet-giant-gmo-launch-7nm-bitcoin-miner-june/

[MagicSmoker]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool

i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

The auto-convert pools suffer from a fatal flaw in my experience: they have you mine the coin that is most profitable right now but convert it to BTC (or whatever coin you selected) hours to days later. If the coin was only temporarily the most profitable because a pump was underway only to be dumped, as usually occurs, then a massive percentage of your earnings get wiped out.

I did comparison tests between various auto-convert pools and NiceHash with matched 1080 rigs on each and every single day I earned more on NH; some days it was 10% more, but most days it was 20-30% more (net of fees, but taking advantage of the free transfer from NH to CoinBase).

I had much better results on Zpool by simply choosing a single algo and auto-converting to a coin that used that algo; in those cases I generally made exactly what my hashrate predicted if I had mined the auto-convert coin directly (note that the implied goal here is to make more than direct mining, otherwise what's the point?).

YMMV, and I can't claim exhaustive experience like most of the participants in this thread series, but after 2 months of dicking around with NH and the various auto-convert pools I went back to mining single coins.

[philipma1957]

Dont know if anyone saw or posted this since you guys are discussing about asics thought that you mind find this interesting,7nm btc asic
https://news.bitcoin.com/japans-internet-giant-gmo-launch-7nm-bitcoin-miner-june/

no big deal.  unless  it is a 0.05 watt miner  doing  1200 watts and 24th for only 1500 usd.  With the ability to sell  10s of thousands of them.

that would be a big deal.

[rs1x]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool

i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

The auto-convert pools suffer from a fatal flaw in my experience: they have you mine the coin that is most profitable right now but convert it to BTC (or whatever coin you selected) hours to days later. If the coin was only temporarily the most profitable because a pump was underway only to be dumped, as usually occurs, then a massive percentage of your earnings get wiped out.

I did comparison tests between various auto-convert pools and NiceHash with matched 1080 rigs on each and every single day I earned more on NH; some days it was 10% more, but most days it was 20-30% more (net of fees, but taking advantage of the free transfer from NH to CoinBase).

I had much better results on Zpool by simply choosing a single algo and auto-converting to a coin that used that algo; in those cases I generally made exactly what my hashrate predicted if I had mined the auto-convert coin directly (note that the implied goal here is to make more than direct mining, otherwise what's the point?).

YMMV, and I can't claim exhaustive experience like most of the participants in this thread series, but after 2 months of dicking around with NH and the various auto-convert pools I went back to mining single coins.

great response - i provided you merit.

[dragonmike]

anyone have experience or preference between the pools where you can point all types of hash power and get payout in BTC?

such as

zpool
ahashpool

i have a bunch of 1080TI cards and some L3's i want to pull together to get BTC payout.  I started at Ahashpool, and switched over to zpool.  I think I had better experience at ahashpool - curious if anyone has any input.

The auto-convert pools suffer from a fatal flaw in my experience: they have you mine the coin that is most profitable right now but convert it to BTC (or whatever coin you selected) hours to days later. If the coin was only temporarily the most profitable because a pump was underway only to be dumped, as usually occurs, then a massive percentage of your earnings get wiped out.

Yup, exactly.
I kept trying for months to extract more profit out of Zpool, ahashpool and Zergpool... but to no avail. The result at the end of the day would always be noticeably lower than the expectation.

I even actually suggested to Nemo to build a radically different miner. Instead of mining what looks to be most profitable "right now", the miner should be trying the opposite strategy: start switching to the coin when the diff is at intraday highs, mine it all the way while diff is falling back down... and sell/exchange when the large pools start mining said coins again.

I've now switched my 1080's to NH. Feels a bit like defeat... but as they say, "if you can't beat them..."

My AMD rigs are solidly mining a single coin. At least, with AMD you know what you're good at. That's EThash and CN (+forks). You just have to pick the coin.

[philipma1957]

Yeah switchers are always chasing and behind  the hot coin.  Plus a shit ton of other people do the same switching.

I mine 1 or 2 coins  zec and a shit coins at the moment and my 16x 1080tis are between 2.25 and 3.25 a card before power cost.