8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place.

[DesertMiner]

@phil

Who does the panel cleaning maintenance ? its an often overlooked part of having solar.

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[philipma1957]

@phil

Who does the panel cleaning maintenance ? its an often overlooked part of having solar.

the array that buysolar  owns and I mine on with him is mostly on the ground 400 of the 500 panels are ground based.

and  the array is grid tied.  So the grid transformer  takes in x and the array does 1.5x so a grimy panel does not  mean much.

We can also wipe  down  400 of the 500 with ease.

Now this project uses 7 or 8 panels  with a ground mount  so if you have the  gear in a spot  that gets grimy  it is easy to wipe down  to clean.

The idea behind this it to make a 1000-1500watt power source for a miner off grid  that will run  5 full hours a day.

POP (pay one price)  up front  for decades of power.

right now companies are giving away gear  or close to it.  s9i's  are under 700  with shipping  and $100 dollar coupon.

I have 12 L3+  and 2 s9I coming
We want to set up an L3+ test doghouse  and a s9i test doghouse  and see how it goes.

We are in a power price is king stage of the game.
If you had cheap power  you would not give a shit  that a piece of gear does not earn a lot.
Power is cheap enough that it profits.

In december 2017  we were in a gear is hard to get part of the game  power cost did not mean much of anything.

and l3+  was   5%  on power cost and 95% in your pocket   if you had 8 cent power

it now earns 2.20 a day  and costs 1.34 to run at 8 cent  that is 60% for power and 40% in your pocket

but if you have 8 cent power  it makes 86 cents a day

if you have 4 cent power it makes 2.20 - .67 = 1.53 a day


but all the 20 cent miners  power is 3.36  so it loses a buck a day
all the 15 cent miners power is 2.52  so it loses  32 cents a day

all the 13 cent miners power is 2.18 so it turns a 2 cent profit.

[DesertMiner]

@phil

Who does the panel cleaning maintenance ? its an often overlooked part of having solar.

the array that buysolar  owns and I mine on with him is mostly on the ground 400 of the 500 panels are ground based.

and  the array is grid tied.  So the grid transformer  takes in x and the array does 1.5x so a grimy panel does not  mean much.

We can also wipe  down  400 of the 500 with ease.

Now this project uses 7 or 8 panels  with a ground mount  so if you have the  gear in a spot  that gets grimy  it is easy to wipe down  to clean.

The idea behind this it to make a 1000-1500watt power source for a miner off grid  that will run  5 full hours a day.

POP (pay one price)  up front  for decades of power.

right now companies are giving away gear  or close to it.  s9i's  are under 700  with shipping  and $100 dollar coupon.

I have 12 L3+  and 2 s9I coming
We want to set up an L3+ test doghouse  and a s9i test doghouse  and see how it goes.

We are in a power price is king stage of the game.
If you had cheap power  you would not give a shit  that a piece of gear does not earn a lot.
Power is cheap enough that it profits.

In december 2017  we were in a gear is hard to get part of the game  power cost did not mean much of anything.

and l3+  was   5%  on power cost and 95% in your pocket   if you had 8 cent power

it now earns 2.20 a day  and costs 1.34 to run at 8 cent  that is 60% for power and 40% in your pocket

but if you have 8 cent power  it makes 86 cents a day

if you have 4 cent power it makes 2.20 - .67 = 1.53 a day


but all the 20 cent miners  power is 3.36  so it loses a buck a day
all the 15 cent miners power is 2.52  so it loses  32 cents a day

all the 13 cent miners power is 2.18 so it turns a 2 cent profit.

100% on point, I'm currently at 8 cents too. I asked about the cleaning because where I live (desert), module soiling takes off close to 10% off the output.

I'm considering financing a grid tied 100KW solar farm as the local electricity company has a program to buy the excess power. The problem is that they pay you for the extra power in kilowatt credits, not cash.

You might wanna check if your local electricity utility has a buy program.

[philipma1957]

@phil

Who does the panel cleaning maintenance ? its an often overlooked part of having solar.

the array that buysolar  owns and I mine on with him is mostly on the ground 400 of the 500 panels are ground based.

and  the array is grid tied.  So the grid transformer  takes in x and the array does 1.5x so a grimy panel does not  mean much.

We can also wipe  down  400 of the 500 with ease.

Now this project uses 7 or 8 panels  with a ground mount  so if you have the  gear in a spot  that gets grimy  it is easy to wipe down  to clean.

The idea behind this it to make a 1000-1500watt power source for a miner off grid  that will run  5 full hours a day.

POP (pay one price)  up front  for decades of power.

right now companies are giving away gear  or close to it.  s9i's  are under 700  with shipping  and $100 dollar coupon.

I have 12 L3+  and 2 s9I coming
We want to set up an L3+ test doghouse  and a s9i test doghouse  and see how it goes.

We are in a power price is king stage of the game.
If you had cheap power  you would not give a shit  that a piece of gear does not earn a lot.
Power is cheap enough that it profits.

In december 2017  we were in a gear is hard to get part of the game  power cost did not mean much of anything.

and l3+  was   5%  on power cost and 95% in your pocket   if you had 8 cent power

it now earns 2.20 a day  and costs 1.34 to run at 8 cent  that is 60% for power and 40% in your pocket

but if you have 8 cent power  it makes 86 cents a day

if you have 4 cent power it makes 2.20 - .67 = 1.53 a day


but all the 20 cent miners  power is 3.36  so it loses a buck a day
all the 15 cent miners power is 2.52  so it loses  32 cents a day

all the 13 cent miners power is 2.18 so it turns a 2 cent profit.

100% on point, I'm currently at 8 cents too. I asked about the cleaning because where I live (desert), module soiling takes off close to 10% off the output.

I'm considering financing a grid tied 100KW solar farm as the local electricity company has a program to buy the excess power. The problem is that they pay you for the extra power in kilowatt credits, not cash.

You might wanna check if your local electricity utility has a buy program.

it does.   buysolar's field  sells excess power  during the day.

[R0mi]

@phil

Who does the panel cleaning maintenance ? its an often overlooked part of having solar.

the array that buysolar  owns and I mine on with him is mostly on the ground 400 of the 500 panels are ground based.

and  the array is grid tied.  So the grid transformer  takes in x and the array does 1.5x so a grimy panel does not  mean much.

We can also wipe  down  400 of the 500 with ease.

Now this project uses 7 or 8 panels  with a ground mount  so if you have the  gear in a spot  that gets grimy  it is easy to wipe down  to clean.

The idea behind this it to make a 1000-1500watt power source for a miner off grid  that will run  5 full hours a day.

POP (pay one price)  up front  for decades of power.

right now companies are giving away gear  or close to it.  s9i's  are under 700  with shipping  and $100 dollar coupon.

I have 12 L3+  and 2 s9I coming
We want to set up an L3+ test doghouse  and a s9i test doghouse  and see how it goes.

We are in a power price is king stage of the game.
If you had cheap power  you would not give a shit  that a piece of gear does not earn a lot.
Power is cheap enough that it profits.

In december 2017  we were in a gear is hard to get part of the game  power cost did not mean much of anything.

and l3+  was   5%  on power cost and 95% in your pocket   if you had 8 cent power

it now earns 2.20 a day  and costs 1.34 to run at 8 cent  that is 60% for power and 40% in your pocket

but if you have 8 cent power  it makes 86 cents a day

if you have 4 cent power it makes 2.20 - .67 = 1.53 a day


but all the 20 cent miners  power is 3.36  so it loses a buck a day
all the 15 cent miners power is 2.52  so it loses  32 cents a day

all the 13 cent miners power is 2.18 so it turns a 2 cent profit.

100% on point, I'm currently at 8 cents too. I asked about the cleaning because where I live (desert), module soiling takes off close to 10% off the output.

I'm considering financing a grid tied 100KW solar farm as the local electricity company has a program to buy the excess power. The problem is that they pay you for the extra power in kilowatt credits, not cash.

You might wanna check if your local electricity utility has a buy program.

Well you also have to factor in the cost of the solar setup.  It's "free power" after you get the panels, connectors, and mounts.  Ground mounted panels are pretty easy to clean, especially after it rains and while they are still wet.  The good news is that solar has a long useful lifespan.

Worldwide, a number of utilities decided to screw over early solar adopters.  At first the tariff rates to sell back to the utility were way too damn high (Spain), and the eventual response was equally vicious (Spanish solar tax).  I bet there are a good number of people where if they originally installed some excess amount of solar beyond what they typically use, they would be better off running a miner or two than reselling that power (or stockpiling discounted credits) with the local Power Company.  And please Mr. Elon Musk (or someone else) how about some breakthroughs with battery storage?  Stop doing the Ambien two-step and focus!

If anyone is just getting interested in solar, I found "missouri wind and solar" videos on YouTube pretty helpful and interesting some years back.  Very low key, no crazy thumping music or flashing graphics that induce seizures.

[Marvell2]

@phil

Who does the panel cleaning maintenance ? its an often overlooked part of having solar.

the array that buysolar  owns and I mine on with him is mostly on the ground 400 of the 500 panels are ground based.

and  the array is grid tied.  So the grid transformer  takes in x and the array does 1.5x so a grimy panel does not  mean much.

We can also wipe  down  400 of the 500 with ease.

Now this project uses 7 or 8 panels  with a ground mount  so if you have the  gear in a spot  that gets grimy  it is easy to wipe down  to clean.

The idea behind this it to make a 1000-1500watt power source for a miner off grid  that will run  5 full hours a day.

POP (pay one price)  up front  for decades of power.

right now companies are giving away gear  or close to it.  s9i's  are under 700  with shipping  and $100 dollar coupon.

I have 12 L3+  and 2 s9I coming
We want to set up an L3+ test doghouse  and a s9i test doghouse  and see how it goes.

We are in a power price is king stage of the game.
If you had cheap power  you would not give a shit  that a piece of gear does not earn a lot.
Power is cheap enough that it profits.

In december 2017  we were in a gear is hard to get part of the game  power cost did not mean much of anything.

and l3+  was   5%  on power cost and 95% in your pocket   if you had 8 cent power

it now earns 2.20 a day  and costs 1.34 to run at 8 cent  that is 60% for power and 40% in your pocket

but if you have 8 cent power  it makes 86 cents a day

if you have 4 cent power it makes 2.20 - .67 = 1.53 a day


but all the 20 cent miners  power is 3.36  so it loses a buck a day
all the 15 cent miners power is 2.52  so it loses  32 cents a day

all the 13 cent miners power is 2.18 so it turns a 2 cent profit.

100% on point, I'm currently at 8 cents too. I asked about the cleaning because where I live (desert), module soiling takes off close to 10% off the output.

I'm considering financing a grid tied 100KW solar farm as the local electricity company has a program to buy the excess power. The problem is that they pay you for the extra power in kilowatt credits, not cash.

You might wanna check if your local electricity utility has a buy program.

Well you also have to factor in the cost of the solar setup.  It's "free power" after you get the panels, connectors, and mounts.  Ground mounted panels are pretty easy to clean, especially after it rains and while they are still wet.  The good news is that solar has a long useful lifespan.

Worldwide, a number of utilities decided to screw over early solar adopters.  At first the tariff rates to sell back to the utility were way too damn high (Spain), and the eventual response was equally vicious (Spanish solar tax).  I bet there are a good number of people where if they originally installed some excess amount of solar beyond what they typically use, they would be better off running a miner or two than reselling that power (or stockpiling discounted credits) with the local Power Company.  And please Mr. Elon Musk (or someone else) how about some breakthroughs with battery storage?  Stop doing the Ambien two-step and focus!

If anyone is just getting interested in solar, I found "missouri wind and solar" videos on YouTube pretty helpful and interesting some years back.  Very low key, no crazy thumping music or flashing graphics that induce seizures.

so its better to buy the panels in bulk and have somone install it say on. a roof than to go through a solar company?

[Marvell2]

Hi Marvell2 didn't realize the link expired ready to go pls resend invite

@Oracle 1 pm me on discord Sterol#3140

[KriptoPenz.info]

Any of you buying this FPGA card?
https://fpga.land/products/vcu1525-withmods
Too risky for me.

[vapourminer]

Any of you buying this FPGA card?
https://fpga.land/products/vcu1525-withmods
Too risky for me.

yup, bought one. BCU1525 with 16 gigs ram.

we will see how it turns out.

[Elder III]

That looks like about a 250 day ROI at current prices, barring future improvements to hashrate and additional algorithms being added.  Of course difficulty will rise once these are on the market.  Definitely plenty of things to consider right now.

[vapourminer]

bought one. BCU1525 with 16 gigs ram.

we will see how it turns out.

That looks like about a 250 day ROI at current prices, barring future improvements to hashrate and additional algorithms being added.  Of course difficulty will rise once these are on the market.  Definitely plenty of things to consider right now.

yeah if i make roi in a year i would be happy. i know its a $3.6k USD risk. if i lose on it oh well, i will mutter a few choice curse words and carry on.

i bought it obviously hoping it can make bank but also as something to learn on, fpgas may be a big part of future mining. or not. but either way it should be a fun toy to learn with.

[philipma1957]

bought one. BCU1525 with 16 gigs ram.

we will see how it turns out.

That looks like about a 250 day ROI at current prices, barring future improvements to hashrate and additional algorithms being added.  Of course difficulty will rise once these are on the market.  Definitely plenty of things to consider right now.

yeah if i make roi in a year i would be happy. i know its a $3.6k USD risk. if i lose on it oh well, i will mutter a few choice curse words and carry on.

i bought it obviously hoping it can make bank but also as something to learn on, fpgas may be a big part of future mining. or not. but either way it should be a fun toy to learn with.

good luck with it.

[Elder III]

bought one. BCU1525 with 16 gigs ram.

we will see how it turns out.

That looks like about a 250 day ROI at current prices, barring future improvements to hashrate and additional algorithms being added.  Of course difficulty will rise once these are on the market.  Definitely plenty of things to consider right now.

yeah if i make roi in a year i would be happy. i know its a $3.6k USD risk. if i lose on it oh well, i will mutter a few choice curse words and carry on.

i bought it obviously hoping it can make bank but also as something to learn on, fpgas may be a big part of future mining. or not. but either way it should be a fun toy to learn with.

good luck with it.

I think these are beyond our technical capabilities at this point.  I'm more hopeful for the Acorn mini fpga GPU accelerator thingies (whatever the right name is).  They sound like they're more user friendly for someone with 0.5% experience with Linux, let alone actual software development.

[vapourminer]

yeah if i make roi in a year i would be happy. i know its a $3.6k USD risk. if i lose on it oh well, i will mutter a few choice curse words and carry on.

i bought it obviously hoping it can make bank but also as something to learn on, fpgas may be a big part of future mining. or not. but either way it should be a fun toy to learn with.

good luck with it.

I think these are beyond our technical capabilities at this point.  I'm more hopeful for the Acorn mini fpga GPU accelerator thingies (whatever the right name is).  They sound like they're more user friendly for someone with 0.5% experience with Linux, let alone actual software development.

figure if fpgas are going to be a player in mining in the future (i do think they will; they are adaptable and they can compete with most of the 90nm etc "custom asics" that have secretly been deployed for various algos) i want to get my feet wet as soon as possible as to how to get them up and running, what they need for a support system, real world numbers etc.

i also will be getting an acorn for my onda gpu rig when that comes out.

ultimately it comes down to power efficiency. acorn can (hopefully) give me a decent boost to hashes per watt with my gpus, and fpga can give a huge (hopefully) increase to hash per watt on its algos.

basically i want to stay under 1500 watts for it all. so anything that helps get more hash in that power envelope is worth looking at for me.

[citronick]

Any of you buying this FPGA card?
https://fpga.land/products/vcu1525-withmods
Too risky for me.

yup, bought one. BCU1525 with 16 gigs ram.

we will see how it turns out.

1 x GPU BCU1525 = 15kh/s at 150watts

Amazing....

Pls share review soon

[soothaa]

Damn those numbers are great.. guess GPUs really will be dead soon!

[philipma1957]

Any of you buying this FPGA card?
https://fpga.land/products/vcu1525-withmods
Too risky for me.

yup, bought one. BCU1525 with 16 gigs ram.

we will see how it turns out.

1 x GPU BCU1525 = 15kh/s at 150watts

Amazing....

Pls share review soon

Yeah  I don't have many gpus anymore  I have a lot of asics.
Many asics are sitting idle.
This year  will be more about cheap power then anything else.

Asic builders made so many asics both coins and gear has become devalued.
But there are still some profits to be had.
Fpga's should be okay but if they are good  the asic builders will take them over. It is their way.

Still working on power more then anything.

If anyone  wants to buy  1080ti's I am going  to be selling this one


I got it in Jan 2018

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Graphics-Cards/Hydro-GFX-GTX-1080-Ti-Liquid-Cooled-Graphics-Card/p/CB-9060011-WW

Here is a moron ebay seller  that wants 999
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pre-Owned-Hydro-GFX-GTX-1080-Ti-Liquid-Cooled-Graphics-Card-in-Packaging/123039038092?

 I paid 815 for it.
 It lists for 869 now.

 I can let it go  for 715 shipped to usa for free. I have some flex in price
Has 1 mod a grill for the fan.


gpus  won't die they will shrink
and  they  will mine shit coins

I mine this coin
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bismuth/

It makes some money  and is too small  for an asic builder to bother.

Once it grows someone will fpga it or asic it.

My plan is to shrink my 14x 1080ti gpus down to under 10x of them

I sold off an omen  880-160se  yesterday  for 2k  my profit was about 200 on that sale.

[TheYankeesWin!]

phil did the Jersey summer power rates kick in for your house?

If I recall you jump to 16.7 cents and have to add xtra for ac?

[philipma1957]

@ yankees

yeah  16.7 + 1.3 for extra ac = 18 cents for home mining until  October 1st.

I now am down to:

   550 watts = cpu + 2x 1080tis  mines monero7 + bismuth
 1400 watts = 2 l3+ + some moonlander sticks   mines ltc solo and a gpu mining xevan

2000 watts = 50 kwatts a day = 9 dollars = 270 - 300 a month in home power at high rates

If I don't hit a ltc block I will earn about 200  at home and take a 100 dollar loss in June July August Sept

that  will be 400 lost  and my odds of the block  of ltc are not too good.
 
294,349 to 1  on each block are my odds.

about   4000 blocks are made in 7 days
about 40000 blocks are made in 70 days
about 80000 blocks are made in 140 days

so  294,349/80000 = 3.7 to 1 shot  but the loss of 400  I can live with.

I would be dead without the solar array and the deal at my friends office.

[citronick]

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I mine this coin
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bismuth/
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My AMD and NVIDIA GPU farms are still in the black - but profits are down - so rather than turning them off, the farm is undervolted further and mines Monero7 all day. Savings on power bill is significant.

All ASICs are still online since they are still on cheap power. All L3+ and D3, and "a few dozen" misbehaving S9s are pointed to Prohashing - and autoconvert them to BTC, LTC and ETH back to the vault.

All the older Baikal ASICs (non-Giant) are on X13 peeling DeepOnions quite well - quite impressive this around 26Ghs using only 3 x 1600w. The newer Giants doesn't support X13.... I hope Bitmain and Innosilion don't spoil my X13 party.