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As it stands, Nvidia is stuck with an excess inventory of its flagship 10 series cards, with an Asian OEM partner going to the extent of returning 300,000 GPUs to the American chip maker.
Damn that is a big return. Given that each GPU averages around $500 the estimated cost of that order could amount to $150 million (300000*500). I wonder why they even allow returns of that magnitude in the first place. Seems like such shady business ethics from the Asian company. I wonder how this will play out for the so called "new series" of NVIDIA GPUs. So i guess this is goodbye for the 11 series for now? |
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As it stands, Nvidia is stuck with an excess inventory of its flagship 10 series cards, with an Asian OEM partner going to the extent of returning 300,000 GPUs to the American chip maker.
Damn that is a big return. Given that each GPU averages around $500 the estimated cost of that order could amount to $150 million (300000*500). I wonder why they even allow returns of that magnitude in the first place. Seems like such shady business ethics from the Asian company. I wonder how this will play out for the so called "new series" of NVIDIA GPUs. So i guess this is goodbye for the 11 series for now? Rock bottom price 1080tis coming soon? |
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A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck.
On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken.
I tried 2 of those Fintech's and had really bad luck with them. They don't work with PICO's (tried 3 different flavors that all work great on Asus and MSI Z270 boards). And when using ATX PSU's, I was not able to get more than 4 or 5 1070Ti's running reliably on them under either HIVE OS or Windows. I ran G4600 CPUs in them and both were flashed to the latest BIOS. Sold them on eBay and barely got $60 back. Quite a loss over what I paid for them new from NewEgg 60 days ago. I missed the return window. |
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probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful.
maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part
wonder how much bandwidth it needs?
Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. interesting video, thanks. my onda b250 d8p can set slot 0 to x8 but all other slots are locked at x1. a board like you suggest would be awesome, give it 4 memory slots and its ready to render. |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. i see internet bandwidth holding back this project even downloading and uploading only 256 sec of raw video would take some bandwidth. 4mins of 4k video is 8gigs of data 4mins of 1080p video is 4gigs of data give and take on both. i do love the idea of using the power for more than just a fast calculator |
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Hey there  Good thread! Have you guys seen a new thing in cryptoworld, called Paytomat? I think that it will bring cryptocurrency usage to everyday life. It is also great for merchants as it is a ready-to-use and a secure solution to accept crypto, allowing to attract new clients and increase customer loyalty. Anyway, you need to test it out. I am inclined to delete you. TO REGULAR PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD I am doing some demo today and I am too busy to figure out if this newbie is spam or scam. If anyone feels like letting me know please do. So I can decide to delete it. |
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Hey there Good thread! Have you guys seen a new thing in cryptoworld, called Paytomat? I think that it will bring cryptocurrency usage to everyday life. It is also great for merchants as it is a ready-to-use and a secure solution to accept crypto, allowing to attract new clients and increase customer loyalty. Anyway, you need to test it out. I am inclined to delete you. TO REGULAR PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD I am doing some demo today and I am too busy to figure out if this newbie is spam or scam. If anyone feels like letting me know please do. So I can decide to delete it. I agree. JD_Gizmo registered yesterday, at least the last 20 posts has been about the same product. Same intro on all of them, and then some made up reason to have everyone try it out. |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. yeah a custom board with 4 ram slots and 4 gpu slots would be good , i hate risers I'm considering taking the motherboard in my personal desktop/workstation, an Asrock Fatal1ty X370 - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp - and making it a test bed mining or rendering rig. I think should be good for 3x GPUs with an Acorn mini accelerator and it's current CPU a Ryzen 1700X should be more then up to the task. Does anyone have any idea if rendering requires faster RAM, or will the cheapest DDR4 2400 work just as well? |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. yeah a custom board with 4 ram slots and 4 gpu slots would be good , i hate risers I'm considering taking the motherboard in my personal desktop/workstation, an Asrock Fatal1ty X370 - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp - and making it a test bed mining or rendering rig. I think should be good for 3x GPUs with an Acorn mini accelerator and it's current CPU a Ryzen 1700X should be more then up to the task. Does anyone have any idea if rendering requires faster RAM, or will the cheapest DDR4 2400 work just as well? my guess is you can clock the ram higher. I have 4 16gb sticks but they are 2400 I plan to clock them up if I have to. I also plan to try a similar setup. let me know when you set it up we can compare notes and see if the asrock taichi is better or the asrock fatality |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. yeah a custom board with 4 ram slots and 4 gpu slots would be good , i hate risers I'm considering taking the motherboard in my personal desktop/workstation, an Asrock Fatal1ty X370 - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp - and making it a test bed mining or rendering rig. I think should be good for 3x GPUs with an Acorn mini accelerator and it's current CPU a Ryzen 1700X should be more then up to the task. Does anyone have any idea if rendering requires faster RAM, or will the cheapest DDR4 2400 work just as well? Cheapest ddr4 will work. There aren't much cheap 4 gpu slot mobos that still provides the pcie lanes.. Cheapest combo Ive seen is this asrock C612 mobo: http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=EPC612D8#SpecificationsCoupled with a 4C8T Xeon 1620V4 40 lane cpu, it will provide all 4 gpus with 8 lane each, and still has a m2 pcie slot for acorn. This combo will be around $600 USD while a threadripper 1900x mobo + cpu is just $700 USD. This epyc board will work with 7 gpu, but you need 16x risers: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12985/asrock-rack-goes-amd-epycd8-workstation-motherboardHas 2x m2 pcie slots for 2 acorns. Probably cost $600 USD + |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. yeah a custom board with 4 ram slots and 4 gpu slots would be good , i hate risers I'm considering taking the motherboard in my personal desktop/workstation, an Asrock Fatal1ty X370 - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp - and making it a test bed mining or rendering rig. I think should be good for 3x GPUs with an Acorn mini accelerator and it's current CPU a Ryzen 1700X should be more then up to the task. Does anyone have any idea if rendering requires faster RAM, or will the cheapest DDR4 2400 work just as well? Cheapest ddr4 will work. There aren't much cheap 4 gpu slot mobos that still provides the pcie lanes.. Cheapest combo Ive seen is this asrock C612 mobo: http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=EPC612D8#SpecificationsCoupled with a 4C8T Xeon 1620V4 40 lane cpu, it will provide all 4 gpus with 8 lane each, and still has a m2 pcie slot for acorn. This combo will be around $600 USD while a threadripper 1900x mobo + cpu is just $700 USD. This epyc board will work with 7 gpu, but you need 16x risers: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12985/asrock-rack-goes-amd-epycd8-workstation-motherboardHas 2x m2 pcie slots for 2 acorns. Probably cost $600 USD + that asrock board using the xeon allows for 8 sticks of ram |
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Wow Zcash has 8.7ghs network hashrate right now. Zcash asics = new D3
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Wow Zcash has 8.7ghs network hashrate right now. Zcash asics = new D3
Yeah it looks like moving the 1080tis off zec will need to happen. It remains to be seen how many of these will be sold. My guess is tons of them. And most likely these cost the builder well under 2000 to build. |
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Zcash difficulty doesn't change very quick. I seen soo many blocks go in the last few hours.
Block time meant to be 150sec I think and it was af 10sec and diff barely moved and they are happy fo have asics on thier network
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Someone has turned a shit load of them on.
Zcash difficulty doesn't change very quick. I seen soo many blocks go in the last few hours.
Block time meant to be 150sec I think and it was af 10sec and diff barely moved and they are happy fo have asics on thier network
fuck zcash. They were supposed to be decentralized and "privacy" transactions. They have never gotten the z address transactions to work and now they are an ASIC coin so they are neither decentralized or private. What is the point of zcash now? |
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I started mining with 1 AMD 7950 and 1 R9-280X. Then I gradually built my AMD operation into 12 R9-290s. Awesome ETH hash but ridiculous power consumption and heat. Over the last year I defected to the Nvidia team. I now use GTX 1070s. They were expensive to buy (probably a bargain now) but awesome hash rate vs. power consumption. blah blah blah blah
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Overdrive5
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June 22, 2018, 03:21:32 PM |
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Someone has turned a shit load of them on.
Zcash difficulty doesn't change very quick. I seen soo many blocks go in the last few hours.
Block time meant to be 150sec I think and it was af 10sec and diff barely moved and they are happy fo have asics on thier network
fuck zcash. They were supposed to be decentralized and "privacy" transactions. They have never gotten the z address transactions to work and now they are an ASIC coin so they are neither decentralized or private. What is the point of zcash now? Agreed, I'm focusing on BTCZ a equihash coin that switched parameters to 144,5. So the Z9 can't play their coin. The whitepaper states they will keep changing parameters to maintain asic resistance. I think snowgem and BTG are following in the same path. If they change parameters just "right before" asic's next version shipment, hopefully they will wear them out. Plus, equihash allows some modifications to the algo to provide differentiation between the various coins to further frustrate the asic manufacturers. That's why EWBF requires you to specify which coin via -pers command switch. GPU's can handle it no problem. Asics... not so much. |
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Elder III
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June 23, 2018, 12:17:10 AM |
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Someone has turned a shit load of them on.
Zcash difficulty doesn't change very quick. I seen soo many blocks go in the last few hours.
Block time meant to be 150sec I think and it was af 10sec and diff barely moved and they are happy fo have asics on thier network
fuck zcash. They were supposed to be decentralized and "privacy" transactions. They have never gotten the z address transactions to work and now they are an ASIC coin so they are neither decentralized or private. What is the point of zcash now? Agreed, I'm focusing on BTCZ a equihash coin that switched parameters to 144,5. So the Z9 can't play their coin. The whitepaper states they will keep changing parameters to maintain asic resistance. I think snowgem and BTG are following in the same path. If they change parameters just "right before" asic's next version shipment, hopefully they will wear them out. Plus, equihash allows some modifications to the algo to provide differentiation between the various coins to further frustrate the asic manufacturers. That's why EWBF requires you to specify which coin via -pers command switch. GPU's can handle it no problem. Asics... not so much. Yeah, BTCZ just made a successful switch last week/weekend. BTG is scheduled to switch around July 1'st; it's running ok on their testnet for a few days now. BTCZ is pretty small, but BTG is a large cap coin that should make a bit of a difference by switching. I heard that Snowgem was looking into a fork but I don't know what point they are at personally. |
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fr4nkthetank
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
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June 23, 2018, 12:58:39 AM |
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"They have never gotten the z address transactions to work"
I thought I was the only one who thought ZCash was a complete failure from the start. Plus the dev fee thing. Plus the stuck coins in the z addy... but it was fun to mine for a week or two !
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Elder III
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June 24, 2018, 12:49:35 AM |
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Here is a link to an hour and a half long interview of Kristi from OhGodACompany (creators of the Ethlargment Pill), by Bits Be Trippin'. They cover a ton of ground on many of the most pressing concerns that all of us as miners have right now. FPGA, the Acorn, Asics, Rendering, Ray Tracing, can algorithms really be made Asic "proof"? and lots more that I found to be very insightful. It is long, but very much worth it in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dddc9r-xyN4 |
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