[ANN][MULTI][VARDIFF] TradeMyBit MULTIALGO Profit Swap w/ Optional Auto-exchange

[Pelk]

I'd love to see stats on percentage of time spent on the various 4010-4013 ports!

See dashboard (only x11-x13-(n)-scrypt..)?
https://pool.trademybit.com/charts/

Yes, I'm aware of the dashboard, but this page doesn't show what % of time each 4010-4013 port was open (which algo was most profitable at the time).

In the irc channel #poolspam you can check it out via "-last multi"

Example:

[05:59:46] <minestat> [TMBPool] multi stats for last 24 hrs
[05:59:46] <minestat> 1 - X11 mined for 11.54 hrs (48.56%)
[05:59:46] <minestat> 2 - X13 mined for 8.22 hrs (34.60%)
[05:59:46] <minestat> 3 - NIST5 mined for 3.89 hrs (16.35%)
[05:59:46] <minestat> 4 - X15 mined for 0.12 hrs (0.49%)

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[juanbond]

I'd love to see stats on percentage of time spent on the various 4010-4013 ports!

See dashboard (only x11-x13-(n)-scrypt..)?
https://pool.trademybit.com/charts/

Yes, I'm aware of the dashboard, but this page doesn't show what % of time each 4010-4013 port was open (which algo was most profitable at the time).

In the irc channel #poolspam you can check it out via "-last multi"

Example:

[05:59:46] <minestat> [TMBPool] multi stats for last 24 hrs
[05:59:46] <minestat> 1 - X11 mined for 11.54 hrs (48.56%)
[05:59:46] <minestat> 2 - X13 mined for 8.22 hrs (34.60%)
[05:59:46] <minestat> 3 - NIST5 mined for 3.89 hrs (16.35%)
[05:59:46] <minestat> 4 - X15 mined for 0.12 hrs (0.49%)

Excellent, that's just what I was looking for!  Thanks!

[miner256]

Can some explain the details of the proportional payout system that is used on TMB please?
With the use of the multi-algorithm miners (or in my case my home-made API based switcher) on the TMB pools, how does a miner get rewarded when swapping between algorithm pools?

Is the payout based only on shares within a block regardless of time? Some PPS variants use a time element to discourage pool hopping - eg; shares in last N seconds or similar or so called PPLNS.

If the difficulty is relatively low within the block and the number of shares is low, then the payout per share at that stage will be better than average for the block? Conversely if the difficulty is higher and the number of shares is high, then the payout per share is worse than average for the block. This is the whole point of the 'pool-hopping' problem isn't it?

How does the multi-algorithm hopping take account of this? Does it take this into account when switching?

For people using their own API-switching code, are you looking at this when making the switching decision? eg; number of shares and difficulty

I am doing a simple switch based only on the reported profitability every 5 minutes. If the profitability of a different algorithm is +5% then I switch. If not I stick. However I feel I should be taking more into account before switching.

Thoughts?

[miner256]

Hey guys,
Have you made a change to the bestalgo API call???

Code:

[{"algo":"x11","score":"0.00327663","actual":"0.000595751"},{"algo":"nist5","score":"0.00266068","actual":"0.000161253"},{"algo":"x13","score":"0.00215897","actual":"0.000583506"},{"algo":"nscrypt","score":"0.0012064","actual":"0.00256681"},{"algo":"scrypt","score":"0.000672299","actual":"0.000672299"},{"algo":"x15","score":"0.000350805","actual":"0.000103178"}]

That's the normalised score and the actual score?
Great!!
Thanks very much

How about an API call for raw (non normalized) BTC/Day/Mhash earnings per algorithm?

I'm planning to extend my autoswitcher (currently works with NiceHash) to support TradeMyBit.  To make it work correctly I need the non-normalized earnings per algorithm as I factor in hash rates myself to get the best bang for the hash.  The "bestalgo" call has the format I want, but it currently has normalized values.  If another key/value pair could be added per algorithm for the non-normalized values this would work great.

+1 vote for this request

[merc82]

Can some explain the details of the proportional payout system that is used on TMB please?
With the use of the multi-algorithm miners (or in my case my home-made API based switcher) on the TMB pools, how does a miner get rewarded when swapping between algorithm pools?

Is the payout based only on shares within a block regardless of time? Some PPS variants use a time element to discourage pool hopping - eg; shares in last N seconds or similar or so called PPLNS.

If the difficulty is relatively low within the block and the number of shares is low, then the payout per share at that stage will be better than average for the block? Conversely if the difficulty is higher and the number of shares is high, then the payout per share is worse than average for the block. This is the whole point of the 'pool-hopping' problem isn't it?

How does the multi-algorithm hopping take account of this? Does it take this into account when switching?

For people using their own API-switching code, are you looking at this when making the switching decision? eg; number of shares and difficulty

I am doing a simple switch based only on the reported profitability every 5 minutes. If the profitability of a different algorithm is +5% then I switch. If not I stick. However I feel I should be taking more into account before switching.

Thoughts?

We use PROP, not PPLNS.. so you are paid for every share you contribute towards a block whenever a block is found, regardless if you're mining on the block from the beginning, or if you hop in just before a block is found. The value per share is relative to the total amount of shares contributed to that block find.

[yotadrivers]

that happend?

2014-07-17 23:51:00   0.02318156 BTC
2014-07-16 23:04:33   0.02175422 BTC
now 18.07 23.59 0.00224426

why profit is ten time smaller? I watch all the day stats, and profit never beet below 0.0003-0.0007

[jammer81]

My profits have been decreasing dramatically as well.

Didn't start happening until that 'flat-spot' in the dashboard Exhanged BTC graph. Conveniently that is when the "BTC echanged by day' graph went down for 'maintenance'

Also, I am having trouble understanding how SPECULATIVE mining is working for CNL with the auto-exchange.

How can the auto-exchange be exchanging CNL when there is no exchange available???

Is it being done privately, or is it TMB that is speculating by exchanging a minimal amount of BTC for each CNL. Then dumping once it hits an exchange for a lot more?

If this is what is happening, i will have to disable my auto-exchange for CNL and speculative coins, which is problematic in its own way, as withdrawals to exchanges seem to rarely occur until TMB dumps first. No matter how quick you get in.

Am i missing something?

[merc82]

My profits have been decreasing dramatically as well.

Didn't start happening until that 'flat-spot' in the dashboard Exhanged BTC graph. Conveniently that is when the "BTC echanged by day' graph went down for 'maintenance'

Also, I am having trouble understanding how SPECULATIVE mining is working for CNL with the auto-exchange.

How can the auto-exchange be exchanging CNL when there is no exchange available???

Is it being done privately, or is it TMB that is speculating by exchanging a minimal amount of BTC for each CNL. Then dumping once it hits an exchange for a lot more?

If this is what is happening, i will have to disable my auto-exchange for CNL and speculative coins, which is problematic in its own way, as withdrawals to exchanges seem to rarely occur until TMB dumps first. No matter how quick you get in.

Am i missing something?

Overall mining profits have started back downward. The Exchanged by Day graph is down due to the large amount of load it was putting on the webservers, it will be back and all data is still in tact.

CNL (and other pre-exchange coins) are sold to buyers at or higher than our spec'd mining price. I never take lower than our spec price before it gets on an exchange.

[jammer81]

Overall mining profits have started back downward. The Exchanged by Day graph is down due to the large amount of load it was putting on the webservers, it will be back and all data is still in tact.

CNL (and other pre-exchange coins) are sold to buyers at or higher than our spec'd mining price. I never take lower than our spec price before it gets on an exchange.

Thankyou for clarifying.

[Amgclk65]

Hello.

Has anyone else noticed blue coin sitting in unconfirmed statues ? It been like that for two days.

[yotadrivers]

i don't see any clarifying. Yesterday profit falls X10 , but reward drop only X2-X3...
it's 0,00008 averages per 1 mh? Sound's not good.

[count_cyrpto]

What happened to the Nist5 multipool?

[Pelk]

What happened to the Nist5 multipool?

there is no profitable nist5 coin atm

[dragonmike]

Ok it happened again: "Stratum connection interrupted" and it doesn't reconnect. In the middle of the night grrrrr.

I suspect a dodgy SGminer. I read from previous posts that old versions of cgminer had that bug as well and ckolivas subsequently fixed it. I'll have to take that up with the PiMP guys. Is anyone else experiencing this?

update:
...and again. Noticing that one card has gone dead in the process. Very very weird considering I've been mining on X15 regular port yesterday (and regular X11 and X13 before that on SGMiner v4) without any sort of trouble. Note that I have a regular TMB X11 port pool as failover (but it doesn't matter at all as it simply doesn't reconnect if it fails).

I also can't restart the sgminer when this happens. My only option is to reboot the machine. Very annoying.

This happened to me several times before I just stopped using v5.  I'd rather be mining a less profitable algo than nothing at all.

I have the same problem with TMB using sgminer5 on win8.1 (v.30.06 ) x11/x13/x15 switching. I tried everything and got nothing. So i left TMB and i am mining on NiceHash. The problem solved! I think there is something wrong in TMB servers. I changed  only the pools config  to point them on NH and voila! All is working flawless and even profit is better. 

Getting the same thing. For example, on start, I will go to 4011, after awhile, goes to the last single-algo multi port 4440, then it tries to reconnect to a multi-multi port, it will keep saying connection interrupted, and waits 10 secs, says stable and trying to connect again, guess what, connection interrupted, and on and on....

Has anyone ever gotten to the bottom of this?
I have set up a cron job to reboot the system 4 times a day as an emergency workaround... But the bug still happens.

[miner256]

Is everything working right on TradeMyBit at the moment (11:00 BST 20th July)?

The algorithm profits don't seem to be changing at all? eg; stuck on X11?
Best has been X11 on 0.00027 or so for well over an hour. That is unusual.

Is there an API call to get all coin profits so that I can check myself?

[uberua]

What's wrong with web page?

[ConspiracyCoin]

Sent you a message merc82 regarding your pool mining CYC.

[BitSmacker]

Not merc's fault but profits are down so we are left with speculative coins.  My limited experience outside TMB with no-exchange new coins has been poor.  Typically they must be sold fast because the price drops fast.  Only later after they settle down do they really get profitable (or they just die).  Looks like my rigs are off for awhile.

[hero18688]

It has been six days since I issue an Apexcoin withdrawal to bittrex.They still not reach out to bittrex.I can find an entry to my withdrawal history.Are you scam? ticket#165 Sloved ,sent taday.

[sandpaper]

It has been six days since I issue an Apexcoin withdrawal to bittrex.They still not reach out to bittrex.I can find an entry to my withdrawal history.Are you scam? ticket#165

What? Please try to explain the issue better, and giant letters does NOT help. IT DOES NOT HELP. See.