[ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014

[virtual_miner]

Now prices drop to 4 stoshi but people continue to sell.

It is getting more exciting to watch the order book. 

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[TheGer]

This is a tough call to make for someone but it is definitely a good call.  And I respect someone who admits it.  I can only shake my head at people who go down with this dying ship, but hey... those people leave more room for me to profit it other markets.

"As a bag holder. It's not the time to hold. It's the time to move into other markets that are going up now. When bitcoin rises again, those markets will do twice as well as moon. I could hold for a loooong time to get my money back, but that doesn't really make much sense. I made a bad decision. I made another bad decision by holding longer. Now I'm admitting my mistake and moving on."

[chickenliver503]

where all the hash at? i cant find any pool over 100 mh/s

[warrenchan]

the people who is eating the sell order must be know something, and they are already eated much MOON, so next pump must be crazy.

[bitmango]

This is a tough call to make for someone but it is definitely a good call.  And I respect someone who admits it.  I can only shake my head at people who go down with this dying ship, but hey... those people leave more room for me to profit it other markets.

"As a bag holder. It's not the time to hold. It's the time to move into other markets that are going up now. When bitcoin rises again, those markets will do twice as well as moon. I could hold for a loooong time to get my money back, but that doesn't really make much sense. I made a bad decision. I made another bad decision by holding longer. Now I'm admitting my mistake and moving on."

Its a call that cost me around a years salary. But I will live another day. I don't think the bag holders here will get their money back. Bitcoin is crashing and will rise again, but moon won't rise like the other alts. I spent yesterday reworking my entire portfolio. I suggest others do the same.

[warrenchan]

Just looking at the cryptsy order book:

60 btc on the buy side.

124 btc needed to get the price to 10 satoshi
498 btc needed to get the price to 20 satoshi
940 btc needed to get the price to 30 satoshi

It's not suprising there are no buyers. This doesn't even count the LTC market or markets on different exchanges.. Somebody has made a royal fortune, and miners are fighting over the scraps. Anyone else who bought in before today has lost money and will likely never recoup their investment. That's the facts and why I sold my stash this morning at a 50% loss. The only way this coin can rise in price is if hundreds of people remove their orders or sell at a loss like I did. Not every one is going to do that.

This is why I try low volume speculative coins...At least if some one comes with 0.5 btc price rises very fast.
LOL...
%50 loss is nothng. You can cover at speculative low volume coins. Good luck sir.

when the price is rising up fast, the sell wall will be get away and set higher. it dont need that much btc to pump.

[ManhAppleHeart]

Fake Sell Walls to push down price? Yes - there are 7.3 Billion Mooncoins for sale on Cryptsy (30% of all mooncoins in existence). My guess is that someone with a large horde of Bitcoins is pushing the price down (probably trading with himself too to fake some volume) and then all the sell walls will be removed for a massive, violent pump.

Just a theory.

I'm buying as price drops since Mooncoin will reach a block-halving before anyone else will (unless I am mistaken) - ~960 blocks a day = halving in 2 months. Halving makes alt coins fun.

I'm totally in this theory I think it's very clear if you had pay attention to Sell order on Cryptsy since the beginning.
Sell order are fake and made by a big whale. And I even think that the little pump that we had before was some test for his next big pump.

However it make no sens how Monn had been taking down. This coin was highly anticipated by the whole Crypto-community and never take off why?

It is manipulated since is beginning and this guy who hold some billion just wait to make a big pump.

I definitly hold my Mooncoin, there are now in a safe place, no sell order on cryptsy.

[bitmango]

Fake Sell Walls to push down price? Yes - there are 7.3 Billion Mooncoins for sale on Cryptsy (30% of all mooncoins in existence). My guess is that someone with a large horde of Bitcoins is pushing the price down (probably trading with himself too to fake some volume) and then all the sell walls will be removed for a massive, violent pump.

Just a theory.

I'm buying as price drops since Mooncoin will reach a block-halving before anyone else will (unless I am mistaken) - ~960 blocks a day = halving in 2 months. Halving makes alt coins fun.

I'm totally in this theory I think it's very clear if you had pay attention to Sell order on Cryptsy since the beginning.
Sell order are fake and made by a big whale. And I even think that the little pump that we had before was some test for his next big pump.

However it make no sens how Monn had been taking down. This coin was highly anticipated by the whole Crypto-community and never take off why?

It is manipulated since is beginning and this guy who hold some billion just wait to make a big pump.

I definitly hold my Mooncoin, there are now in a safe place, no sell order on cryptsy.

So it's the magic man in the sky theory now 

At no point has there been any opportunity to buy 30% of all mooncoins. It never would have pumped to 37 sat in the first place if there had been. To attribute the sell orders to one person is idiotic at best.

[disclaimer201]

MoonCoin is dead, long live MoonCoin. Why do you losers even bother to continue to post here? Go and invest in your other great opportunities already.

Moon is an incredibly young fun coin (less than 2 months old!) and might just get through this, even if some big speculators are now disappointed. Fine. Speculation is over. Let's go home. Some of you must be terribly disappointed as someone has to hold hundreds of millions or even billions of coins now. There hasn't even happened one big pump yet. Very strange.

[ManhAppleHeart]

Fake Sell Walls to push down price? Yes - there are 7.3 Billion Mooncoins for sale on Cryptsy (30% of all mooncoins in existence). My guess is that someone with a large horde of Bitcoins is pushing the price down (probably trading with himself too to fake some volume) and then all the sell walls will be removed for a massive, violent pump.

Just a theory.

I'm buying as price drops since Mooncoin will reach a block-halving before anyone else will (unless I am mistaken) - ~960 blocks a day = halving in 2 months. Halving makes alt coins fun.

I'm totally in this theory I think it's very clear if you had pay attention to Sell order on Cryptsy since the beginning.
Sell order are fake and made by a big whale. And I even think that the little pump that we had before was some test for his next big pump.

However it make no sens how Monn had been taking down. This coin was highly anticipated by the whole Crypto-community and never take off why?

It is manipulated since is beginning and this guy who hold some billion just wait to make a big pump.

I definitly hold my Mooncoin, there are now in a safe place, no sell order on cryptsy.

So it's the magic man in the sky theory now 

At no point has there been any opportunity to buy 30% of all mooncoins. It never would have pumped to 37 sat in the first place if there had been. To attribute the sell orders to one person is idiotic at best.

Future will tell us who's right or wrong but I'm pretty sure of what I say...

[redjedievolution]

Im with you, i'll hold. i had almost 300 millions bought since 16 satoshi to 4 satoshi, and i don't think it go more down... but if it do, i'll buy more.

2 months only... is a very young coin

[reverse02]

MoonCoin is dead, long live MoonCoin. Why do you losers even bother to continue to post here? Go and invest in your other great opportunities already.

Moon is an incredibly young fun coin (less than 2 months old!) and might just get through this, even if some big speculators are now disappointed. Fine. Speculation is over. Let's go home. Some of you must be terribly disappointed as someone has to hold hundreds of millions or even billions of coins now. There hasn't even happened one big pump yet. Very strange.

rightoe

[virtual_miner]

In some educational Geo or Discovery programs, i learnt that.

Most of the times trusting all other human reactions is the correct desicion.

[ManhAppleHeart]

In some educational Geo or Discovery programs, i learnt that.

Most of the times trusting all other human reactions is the correct desicion.

Haha that's a good one!
But there is some exception 

[virtual_miner]

Buy at 4 and fast go put 5...
%25 profit..

Will I do ? No..

But who makes it there is a wall growing at 5.

[coinflow]

where all the hash at? i cant find any pool over 100 mh/s

They are spread on several pools. Which actually is a good thing.
Better than one big pool. This is the exact reason why I still recommend mining on P2Pool.

Come on people. I have seen the hashrate in P2Pool raising after my last post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.msg5335321#msg5335321. But most of you left again before it even started to get interesting and right before the next block was found. You really have to be patient if mining on P2Pool-system. If you get out before the pool found a block (sometimes two) you won't get a payout (which means your by now invested hashing power is gone for nothing).
If you look at the expected time to block/payout listed at the P2Pool-sites they are only estimates. Could be double the time, could be a quarter of it. Anyway, you'll get paid your fair share of the block reward (relative to the hashing-power/contributed shares) at the moment, when one on the members of the pool finds a block (but remember you must be mining in that very moment under the wallet-address).
Granted, the last hours payout was a little low, since the luck for finding blocks AND the block reward for the found blocks was low. But there will be better times and it all equals out in the long run. You will get the same or better results as on the MPOS-pools, since they all rely on the same mooncoind (the daemon that connects the single pools with each other).

Help decentralise the hashing power. Start P2Pool-mining today.

Here are some P2Pools:
http://p2pool.org:9664/static/
http://solidpool.org:9664/static/
http://taken.pl:9664/static/
http://evilhumpty.com:44658/static/
http://p2pool.name:9664/static/

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[disclaimer201]

In some educational Geo or Discovery programs, i learnt that.

Most of the times trusting all other human reactions is the correct desicion.

Haha that's a good one!
But there is some exception 

 "If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." Bertrand Russell

[sha0908]

Now the market a lot of new coins appear when individuals invest a great risk, I think when we choose to be rational in the face

[disclaimer201]

I recently found a block on "moon.hasher.ca" but was wondering what is up with "Moon.NotNull.org" as I have lots of shares over there but it's impossible to connect to that pool.

Unlike p2pools at least you get your shares paid whenever they find a new block in the future. But if you can't mine on notnull how could I get my shares??

Just wondering in case any of the poolowners read this.

Cheers everyone

[coinflow]

I recently found a block on "moon.hasher.ca" but was wondering what is up with "Moon.NotNull.org" as I have lots of shares over there but it's impossible to connect to that pool.

This is - or at least can be - the problem with those login-pools. You depend on the trustworthiness of the pool-owners.

Unlike p2pools at least you get your shares paid whenever they find a new block in the future. But if you can't mine on notnull how could I get my shares??

The MPOS-pools most of the times also run a PPLNS-based ( http://pool-x.eu/aboutpplns ) system, which pays out for the last contributed N-shares. Just like P2Pool. The number of paid shares grows over a certain time-frame (12-24 hrs?) and decrease likewise after stopping mining, but they are not discarded completely. If I understood P2Pool-/PPLNS-payout-logic correctly, you always can interrupt mining and get later in again without losing ALL of your gathered "status", entitling you to get the share of the reward according to your hash-rate, if a block is found. This means you build up a certain status over a given timeframe to the full amount of your hashrate and if you stop mining this claim degrades with the same rate over time. But you can always get into it again, restart mining after a pause (which should not exceed the timeframe, of course), rebuilding the claim to full extent and again immediately get the relevant share every time a block is found. Correct me, if I'm wrong.
So it means, at the end you have no worse situation than on MPOS-pools, plus you don't have to rely on pool-operators, as the reward-share goes directly to your wallet-address, instead of into the pools database first.