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May 23, 2014, 08:04:30 PM
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oh
 well... I can't Stanford all this speculation i this thread. Its so
obvious new accounts are created with the sole purpose of promoting
this. The evidence that this is a hip is laying right in front of your
eyes people. Whoever falls for this, to me his losses will be well
deserved. This is my last warning about this. I can't stand the
stupidity ogre some people here.

Some "defenders" have more posts than you, some almost as much as you.....and now???
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May 23, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
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Simple question back to you: Why are there investment banks, mutual trusts, hedge funds etc. that are offering their services to the public???
Investment companies are not offering investments that (historically) claim to generate about 1% per day. If they have ways of generating those kind of returns, they won't be sharing them with you and me.

Because making a large profit off of arbitrage requires both liquidity (provided by the exchanges) and a large amount of capital (provided by either the business or investors), and they may not have that much to invest on their own. With other people investing, they make significantly more profit. If you have 1$ to buy gold on one exchange, to resell for 2$ on another exchange, that's great. But you still only make a dollar. Now, if you had 1 dollar and 99 other people to invest 1$, suddenly you've made 200$ off the trade, and you share out the profit to the investors, plus a cut for yourself because you took the time to find the arbitrage opportunity and perform the trades for the investors.

I am not convinced one way or the other, but from a pure business perspective what they're doing does seem viable. If I had the capital myself I could easily make 1% on arbitrage every day, but it requires you to keep both USD and BTC in large amounts on several exchanges so you can react to new opportunities without waiting for cash to transfer everywhere.
Yes, I understand that you need a minimum amount of capital to effectively perform arbitrage. Of course on the other hand, there is a point where you have too much capital available.

I suppose eventually we will find out the truth, at some point they will wind down and we will see if they can pay or not.
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May 26, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
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oh
 well... I can't Stanford all this speculation i this thread. Its so
obvious new accounts are created with the sole purpose of promoting
this. The evidence that this is a hip is laying right in front of your
eyes people. Whoever falls for this, to me his losses will be well
deserved. This is my last warning about this. I can't stand the
stupidity ogre some people here.


Maybe you should take english classes... or use something a bit better than google translator perhaps?

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May 26, 2014, 05:34:59 PM
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oh
 well... I can't Stanford all this speculation i this thread. Its so
obvious new accounts are created with the sole purpose of promoting
this. The evidence that this is a hip is laying right in front of your
eyes people. Whoever falls for this, to me his losses will be well
deserved. This is my last warning about this. I can't stand the
stupidity ogre some people here.


Maybe you should take english classes... or use something a bit better than google translator perhaps?

You should try posting this from a nokia 210 yourself. Cheesy

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May 27, 2014, 03:42:07 AM
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Any one worried this might turn into a btc-arb scam ?
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May 27, 2014, 02:33:26 PM
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I have a small cashout since 5/23/14 so far hasn't processed anyone else having delays?
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May 27, 2014, 02:40:14 PM
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They don't work on the weekends, and yesterday was a public holiday in the UK (where the primary staff are based). You should see some action on that cashout today.


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May 27, 2014, 02:45:30 PM
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I have a small cashout since 5/23/14 so far hasn't processed anyone else having delays?

They do not process during weekends and yesterday was a public holiday in the UK. This was announced on their website since Thursday last week.
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May 27, 2014, 05:00:34 PM
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I have a small cashout since 5/23/14 so far hasn't processed anyone else having delays?

They do not process during weekends and yesterday was a public holiday in the UK. This was announced on their website since Thursday last week.

Just got my payment thanks!
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June 02, 2014, 09:23:12 PM
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I looked at this program a couple of months ago and didn't realize it was actually still paying. (Just not using traditional Hyip forums and monitors I suppose)
Can someone tell me if this is still paying? I see it's been several days since any update here.
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June 02, 2014, 09:58:15 PM
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I looked at this program a couple of months ago and didn't realize it was actually still paying. (Just not using traditional Hyip forums and monitors I suppose)
Can someone tell me if this is still paying? I see it's been several days since any update here.

Yes, I've had no issues, Coming up on my 120 days and its being going solid.
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June 02, 2014, 10:01:26 PM
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I looked at this program a couple of months ago and didn't realize it was actually still paying. (Just not using traditional Hyip forums and monitors I suppose)
Can someone tell me if this is still paying? I see it's been several days since any update here.

Yes, I've had no issues, Coming up on my 120 days and its being going solid.

Do you know how may investors have completed 120 day cycle and received their principal back?
I think that will tell the story right there.
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June 02, 2014, 10:28:56 PM
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I looked at this program a couple of months ago and didn't realize it was actually still paying. (Just not using traditional Hyip forums and monitors I suppose)
Can someone tell me if this is still paying? I see it's been several days since any update here.

Yes, I've had no issues, Coming up on my 120 days and its being going solid.

Do you know how may investors have completed 120 day cycle and received their principal back?
I think that will tell the story right there.

Only a few.  They only started in Late Oct,  So we are coming on two possible cycles.  Those that waited for the first batch.  A bunch of us Joined in Feb/March.  I've been able to withdraw daily without any issues,  I'll average about 80 - 90 % by the time my contracts expire.
Not sure if how much I will re-invest yet.  I haven't seen any concrete evidence they aren't a HYPE but they have been super reliable thus far.
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June 03, 2014, 04:40:03 AM
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I have two shares that will mature in July. I get payouts every day and withdrawals generally happen in 24 hours or less. The jury is still out I suppose but I plan to reinvest my principal and will probably add a few more shares at that time as well. 

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June 03, 2014, 06:00:42 AM
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Trading pool profit is not updated yet for today???
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June 03, 2014, 06:30:28 AM
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Trading pool profit is not updated yet for today???

Yeah, that is a little weird because on both FB and Twitter it's updated. Here's today's result:

Today's Trading Pool result: 1.00%

But it doesn't appear payments went out.

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June 03, 2014, 10:29:52 AM
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My payments were credited at 3am EDT as per usual.

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June 04, 2014, 09:53:55 PM
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This sounds just like Secure Investment, another Panama based company. I found it in July & could not find anything negative on it. Put what I could afford to loose in it, & got the first return in September (120 trading days committed on initial investment, minimum withdrawal) of income $500. When income reached $500 early this year they changed the minimum to $1K. When I questioned the policy change, their phone, email &  web site went black. Sadder & wiser, I am...
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June 05, 2014, 08:33:25 AM
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This sounds just like Secure Investment, another Panama based company. I found it in July & could not find anything negative on it. Put what I could afford to loose in it, & got the first return in September (120 trading days committed on initial investment, minimum withdrawal) of income $500. When income reached $500 early this year they changed the minimum to $1K. When I questioned the policy change, their phone, email &  web site went black. Sadder & wiser, I am...

Yes, with the difference that this one is paying daily for many months now and the minimum withdrawal is $2 - not $500 or $1,000.
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June 06, 2014, 03:29:14 AM
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anyone actually finished the 120 day cycle and got the original investment back ?

Any input will be highly appriciated
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