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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722506 times)
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March 18, 2015, 02:09:14 AM
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Darkcoin's masternodes is a centralization risk. Masternodes run on servers, servers are centralized, meaning masternodes are centralized and are a risk to the network. Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.

You actually make zero sense.   Welcome to the growing ignore list.

  


Yea, it doesn't make any sense to say that hosting a node on a centralized server, means that node is now centralized as well?

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March 18, 2015, 02:12:52 AM
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Darkcoin's masternodes is a centralization risk. Masternodes run on servers, servers are centralized, meaning masternodes are centralized and are a risk to the network. Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.

You actually make zero sense.   Welcome to the growing ignore list.

  


Yea, it doesn't make any sense to say that hosting a node on a centralized server, means that node is now centralized as well?

Don't quit your day job.

You do know they [Masternodes] can be ran on a Pi right?  maybe not
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March 18, 2015, 02:18:24 AM
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A server is simply a computer. By that logic, every bitcoin wallet is running on a centralized machine.
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March 18, 2015, 02:19:13 AM
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Darkcoin's masternodes is a centralization risk. Masternodes run on servers, servers are centralized, meaning masternodes are centralized and are a risk to the network. Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.

You actually make zero sense.   Welcome to the growing ignore list.

  


Yea, it doesn't make any sense to say that hosting a node on a centralized server, means that node is now centralized as well?

Don't quit your day job.

You do know they [Masternodes] can be ran on a Pi right?  maybe not

"Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.". It's unrealistic to even think that the majority of masternode owners would run theirs on a Raspberry PI. The majority of nodes for Bitcoin, which is the most popular cryptocurrency in existence, are not run on a Raspberry PI.

#logic
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March 18, 2015, 02:20:14 AM
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A server is simply a computer. By that logic, every bitcoin wallet is running on a centralized machine.

There's a huge difference. Let's take for example multibit, that wallet serves no purpose other than a way for the owner to easily access their Bitcoins. It does not uphold the network and plays no role in centralization/decentralization. Therefore, you cannot compare such a wallet to a masternode(which supplies "anonymity") that's run on a centralized server.
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March 18, 2015, 02:23:28 AM
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Hey check out who/what Dakota is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=256238

It's a SHOCKER!   Roll Eyes
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March 18, 2015, 02:24:17 AM
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Hey check out who/what Dakota is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=256238

It's a SHOCKER!   Roll Eyes

Are you dumb? That's the Sent feedback. That's the feedback that I sent to others. Lmfao...
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March 18, 2015, 02:24:37 AM
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Hey check out who/what Dakota is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=256238

It's a SHOCKER!   Roll Eyes

Someone doesn't understand what sent feedback is  Roll Eyes
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March 18, 2015, 02:26:48 AM
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Hey check out who/what Dakota is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=256238

It's a SHOCKER!   Roll Eyes

Someone doesn't understand what sent feedback is  Roll Eyes

It shows what a dickhead this guy truly is.
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March 18, 2015, 02:28:20 AM
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Darkcoin's masternodes is a centralization risk. Masternodes run on servers, servers are centralized, meaning masternodes are centralized and are a risk to the network. Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.

You actually make zero sense.   Welcome to the growing ignore list.

  


Yea, it doesn't make any sense to say that hosting a node on a centralized server, means that node is now centralized as well?

Don't quit your day job.

You do know they [Masternodes] can be ran on a Pi right?  maybe not

"Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.". It's unrealistic to even think that the majority of masternode owners would run theirs on a Raspberry PI. The majority of nodes for Bitcoin, which is the most popular cryptocurrency in existence, are not run on a Raspberry PI.

#logic

It's unfortunately also one of the most traceable cryptocurrencies in existence
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March 18, 2015, 02:28:48 AM
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New website. http://dashtalk.org

Many man hours went into this.  Tongue
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March 18, 2015, 02:33:15 AM
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New website. http://dashtalk.org

Many man hours went into this.  Tongue

Please let us know how we can help.

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March 18, 2015, 02:34:25 AM
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Let's Talk Bitcoin! #196 Distortions towards Privacy

On Todays Show Matthew interviews Evan of the Darkcoin project for an in-depth look at how one community has attacked and perhaps solved many of the privacy concerns that are a part of Bitcoin.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-196-distortions-towards-privacy-or-many-hands-makes-light-work
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I've had to listen to this twice! It is so full of incredible richness and multiple new ideas (like transaction abbreviation <--- this alone is of enormous importance and dramatic crypto revolution!). Absolutely brilliant!

Have it on my phone now as I need to listen to it a few more times there's so much in this. Great work Evan!

(PS - I really appreciate your very clear voice Evan; it's so easy to listen to)

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Darkcoin's masternodes is a centralization risk. Masternodes run on servers, servers are centralized, meaning masternodes are centralized and are a risk to the network. Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.

You actually make zero sense.   Welcome to the growing ignore list.

  


Yea, it doesn't make any sense to say that hosting a node on a centralized server, means that node is now centralized as well?

Don't quit your day job.

You do know they [Masternodes] can be ran on a Pi right?  maybe not

"Even if masternodes are kept offline, there's an even higher chance of losing the masternode due to human error, accident, etc.". It's unrealistic to even think that the majority of masternode owners would run theirs on a Raspberry PI. The majority of nodes for Bitcoin, which is the most popular cryptocurrency in existence, are not run on a Raspberry PI.

#logic

It's unfortunately also one of the most traceable cryptocurrencies in existence

That's true. However, Bitcoin in comparison is like an angel since it's basic parameters(Block reward, Max coin supply) has not been changed or cut, unlike Darkcoin's. Arguably, that's one of the defining points of a decentralized cryptocurrency, satoshi himself stated, " The nature of Bitcoin is such that once version 0.1 was released, the core design was set in stone for the rest of its lifetime."

Decentralization is all about general "equality", if a developer is left to make all the changes as he/she sees fit, it's not decentralized(and especially if they did so from the beginning like Darkcoin's), it never was decentralized and never will be.
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March 18, 2015, 02:36:42 AM
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Trace just one darksend transaction and prove yourself.  Hell I think there's even a bounty out there for this.......
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March 18, 2015, 02:41:07 AM
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Guys, let's stop responding to the fudders and trolls...it's just not worth it. 

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March 18, 2015, 02:44:52 AM
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New website. http://dashtalk.org

Many man hours went into this.  Tongue

Please let us know how we can help.

Not quoting idiots would be awesome.
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March 18, 2015, 02:47:28 AM
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Trace just one darksend transaction and prove yourself.  Hell I think there's even a bounty out there for this.......

I was actually referring to Bitcoin being traceable not Dash, no troll here.... Smiley Wink Cheesy
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March 18, 2015, 02:55:58 AM
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So the lead dev has a private key which lets him control all the MasterNodes? Why does he need to control all MasterNodes? In the future, will he be in control or is this just temporary and if so how long will this continue?

No, he does not. There is a private key for engaging the spork but that's it. This allows us to prevent forks for the time being while bugs are getting troubleshooted on mainnet when new features get rolled out.

LOL, so now the spork trigger is being fudded as a key to control masternodes?  

1. The code for the spork trigger, which is used to keep the network from fragmenting while DRK/DASH is under heavy construction, is all in the open code, and  you can see there that it does nothing but enable/disable enforcement of minimum wallet version, at least that's how I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong.-- and the previous wallet will have min. wallet enforcement from before so that a network manipulator will still be limited to how old a wallet he can use.  The rest of the network will still reject bad actors.

2.  This does NOT give anyone any control over any masternode, except it's owner.

3.  It might continue to stay in place for some time because we're still improving the technology and it makes hard forks less risky, and the risk to the network is virtually nothing other than possibly causing masternodes to miss out on payments.  This is a risk we understand, but it can not be avoided when introducing new or upgraded technology.  And this very new technology is what gives DASH it's value.

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March 18, 2015, 03:00:04 AM
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New website. http://dashtalk.org

Many man hours went into this.  Tongue

Please let us know how we can help.

Not quoting idiots would be awesome.

Yaay, really love that animation, glad you're using it!

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