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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9723463 times)
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February 28, 2014, 01:50:43 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy
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February 28, 2014, 01:58:39 AM
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Here it is!

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_wallet

A pretty paranoid piece, so perhaps incorrect, however if you look down to the section that says Securing the Bitcoin-QT or bitcoind wallet, you'll see what I read.  Perhaps I'm understanding it wrongly.  Or perhaps it's wrong?  Please, smart guys and gals out there, check it out and confirm or clarify for us Smiley

Thanks Smiley

So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins.


I hate to keep bringing this up, but could eduffield, CHAOSiTEC , InternetApe  or someone tell me if this is true or not?  Thanks so much!

It's my understanding that change addresses usually use the unused pool addresses, then every time you use 100 it will make another new 100 addresses to use. So you technically only need to backup whenever that mass generation happens. 

This about sums it up:

The wallet contains a pool of queued keys. By default there are 100 keys in the key pool. The size of the pool is configurable using the "-keypool" command line argument. When you need an address for whatever reason (send, “new address”, generation, etc.), the key is not actually generated freshly, but taken from this pool. A brand new address is generated to fill the pool back to 100. So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins

Yup, that's what I was reading when I realized I would have to take a more active roll in backing up my wallet and wanted to spread the knowledge.  Sorry for being annoying today, but that was my exciting lesson for the day, LOL

So we can summarize this by : When we start to reach 100 transactions in our transction list (receive and send) we can think to make another BACKUP NOW IMMEDIATLY??!!!
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February 28, 2014, 02:09:57 AM
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Here it is!

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_wallet

A pretty paranoid piece, so perhaps incorrect, however if you look down to the section that says Securing the Bitcoin-QT or bitcoind wallet, you'll see what I read.  Perhaps I'm understanding it wrongly.  Or perhaps it's wrong?  Please, smart guys and gals out there, check it out and confirm or clarify for us Smiley

Thanks Smiley

So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins.


I hate to keep bringing this up, but could eduffield, CHAOSiTEC , InternetApe  or someone tell me if this is true or not?  Thanks so much!

It's my understanding that change addresses usually use the unused pool addresses, then every time you use 100 it will make another new 100 addresses to use. So you technically only need to backup whenever that mass generation happens.  

This about sums it up:

The wallet contains a pool of queued keys. By default there are 100 keys in the key pool. The size of the pool is configurable using the "-keypool" command line argument. When you need an address for whatever reason (send, “new address”, generation, etc.), the key is not actually generated freshly, but taken from this pool. A brand new address is generated to fill the pool back to 100. So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins

Yup, that's what I was reading when I realized I would have to take a more active roll in backing up my wallet and wanted to spread the knowledge.  Sorry for being annoying today, but that was my exciting lesson for the day, LOL

So we can summarize this by : When we start to reach 100 transactions in our transction list (receive and send) we can think to make another BACKUP NOW IMMEDIATLY??!!!


As long as you make regular backups of your wallet you'll be fine. Also when i say regular backups, I mean before you do over 100 transactions. Almost impossible unless you've never been proactive with copying your wallet. So really nothing to worry about.

Also, even if you never did backup your wallet and went over 100 transactions and THEN backed it up, you will still have all your crypto. As long as you have access to the wallet. The only time it becomes an issue is when your restoring a backup of a wallet from months ago.
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February 28, 2014, 02:34:05 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.


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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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February 28, 2014, 02:39:18 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.


I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot stick  Smiley

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February 28, 2014, 02:42:03 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.


I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot stick  Smiley

+1 the only 'correct' answer

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February 28, 2014, 02:43:39 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.


I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot stick  Smiley

I would touch that with my 3 inch tool.
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February 28, 2014, 02:48:53 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.


I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot stick  Smiley

I would touch that with my 3 inch tool.

dafockbro

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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February 28, 2014, 03:11:54 AM
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Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0
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February 28, 2014, 03:15:44 AM
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Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0


The exchange is awesome!  Very fast, very secure... USD markets coming soon.  Would be a big win for dark
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Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0

The exchange is awesome!  Very fast, very secure... USD markets coming soon.  Would be a big win for dark
Ook cool, even better then.
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February 28, 2014, 03:33:33 AM
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Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0

done

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February 28, 2014, 03:41:05 AM
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Voted !!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0
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February 28, 2014, 03:46:56 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.



I hope the person who owns darkroad.com never sells their site!  I looked to buy it so it couldn't be used, but I'm probably fighting  a losing battle  Tongue

BTW, I voted also, it'd be nice if they're a good exchange....

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February 28, 2014, 03:52:17 AM
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Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0

done
Done

we are first for the moment :
Darkcoin    - 23 (47.9%)
Riecoin    - 2 (4.2%)
Auroracoin    - 2 (4.2%)
Huntercoin    - 5 (10.4%)
Litebar    - 0 (0%)
Gridcoin    - 2 (4.2%)
Solarcoin    - 0 (0%)
Myriadcoin    - 3 (6.3%)
Kittehcoin    - 2 (4.2%)
Copper Bars    - 1 (2.1%)
Ultracoin    - 0 (0%)
Sherlockcoin    - 1 (2.1%)
Sexcoin    - 0 (0%)
Cryptographic Anomoly    - 7 (14.6%)
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February 28, 2014, 03:56:32 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.


I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot stick  Smiley

I would touch that with my 3 inch tool.

dafockbro

exactly.
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February 28, 2014, 04:06:28 AM
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voted up of course!

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February 28, 2014, 04:11:28 AM
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voted and inb4 darkroad2

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February 28, 2014, 04:17:40 AM
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  Grin

I think it'll take him a week or two.  Cheesy

I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys?

The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough.



Oh, I don't think we were talking about a "DarkRoad" but rather a system to make secure, escrow like transactions from the wallet, or corroborated wallets of many coins so that exchanges wouldn't be needed Smiley

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February 28, 2014, 04:20:22 AM
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Everyone go vote for Darkcoin to be added to some exchange I've never heard of before, but its still an exchange.
First coin to 1000 votes gets added, apparently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491588.0

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