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[newquestions]

Check your numbers before you make an accusation.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing ... lol

[camosoul]

BitCoin was adopted because it was a new technology with a use. DarkCoin is not new. It's jsut another cryptocurrency in the minds of the masses, if they even manage to hear about it. And said masses already view BitCoin as CrimCoin. DarkCoin only names itself worse... I don't give a shit what it's called, either. I don't give a shit about marketing, either. I DO give a shit about the success of a damn good idea, and naming it RapeYourDaughterCoin doesn't help it succeed.

Let me say it another way... I don't care if a guy has tattoos and piercings all over his face, if he does a damn good job, I'm giving him a raise. But, how many people like me do you think there are? How many job interviews will he be thrown out of before he finds me and I hire him?

There is a pall cast whether you like it or not. Anything cryptocurrency is already thought of as CrimeCoin. That's reality. Ignoring reality does not result in success. Naming it in a way that amplifies this already existing shadow doesn't help it succeed. That's just how it is.

I'm nobody's boss here, I could barely make the stuff work and am considered an asshole just because I'm not king high nerd. But this messenger knows what he is talking about. Ignoring reality will hurt your coin. If I invented RapeYourDaughterCoin and it did everything exactly the way BitCoin does, a perfect clone, and BitCoin never existed... How well do you think that would have gone? And that's in a vaccuum... You're not operating in a vacuum, a shadow is already cast, RapeYourDaughterCoin would do even worse today than it would have as the groundbreaking leader.

No, the name won't make it succeed. But, it can make it fail.

Ah yes... put somebody in a position where they have to defend something as ridiculous as "RapeYourDoughterCoin"  coin ... nice tactic. I will re-brand it to (RYDC)

Your saying Bitcoin (BTC) was successful because it was new technology , I said because it solved double spend problem so we agree .  You say dark coin is not new .  If DRK (let' substitute RYDC) implements anonymous features first in the next few days that no other coin has in the most efficient way then you are incorrect. If RYDC was the only coin that was truly anonymous then yes I would use RYDC and so would you. You would use it because you are the type of person who can see past tattoos and piercings and value it based on what it is instead of an irrelevant name. If the decision comes down to conducting my illegal raw milk commerce in RYDC's or potentially getting tracked down I will use RYDC's.  

People seem to think that using the coin in the way it is being designed (and arguably intended) is somehow wrong and we should pretend that it is not really the reason why this coin was created. I say embrace it.

The real reason people are complaining (probably earlier adopters) is because they see this as an investment instead of a currency. If I am going to trade my raw milk or illegal honey for DRK/RYDC do you think I care what the USD value is if I am converting or trading? Just like BTC If you are earning and spending coins tied back to a more stable value like USD (*relatively)  then it does not affect you much.  However it seems most people are not here for free market currency but more for get rich quick.

Government is going to drive adoption of something like this because of making everything over regulated and illegal (as I was referencing with milk and honey that non "criminals" can understand). "Dark" in the parlance of our time is about being hidden and anonymous and it is a positive thing not a negative.  It's not just about heroin and kidiporn eventually most of us will have a use for something like DRK/RYDC  because we will all be made into criminals. I can see it now kids speak easy lemonade stands because they have been shut down by bureaucrats and badge thugs and are accepting DRK and RYDC's.

What did RYDC's stand for I forgot... Kind of like how googole/google became a verb.  

I'm not putting anyone in a position to defend RapeYourDaughterCoin. I'm making an analogy. Straw man, dead.

I'm not calling you wrong. I'm saying that ignoring reality does not change reality.

There exists a stigma. It's a fact. You've 'embraced' it, but who else will? You're essentially saying "Yes, we mean to be the CrimeCoin for which BitCoin only managed to be a half-measure." When you could be saying "It's no more criminal than cash."

You and I both know that there is no difference. Functionally, they do the same thing regardless of the propaganda or marketing. But propaganda and marketing do affect the weak minds of the general population. They already view BitCoin as CrimeCoin because they are weak-minded, so coming out and calling yourself WayMoreCrimeCoin isn't helpful. I'm not saying the sky will fall as a result, just that it isn't helping... I could wet my pants in a job interview, and it might not ruin my chances if everyone else does worse, but it isn't going to help me... I could just NOT wet my pants, how's that? Just like I can NOT stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork. I can also NOT name my altcoin in such a way as to make people even more stupidly wary of something they're already stupidly wary about... You can't force people to be smart. I've tried... I'm getting a DeJa Vu feeling... :-p

It's a moot point because changing the name at this point is silly. I still like ChameleonCoin tho...

Personally, I love Crime, and I'd love CrimeCoin. Crime is just the act of taking back human rights stolen by government. I'm proud of Crime. Crime is good. But, how many people understand that and agree with me? Maybe I should get an "I Love Crime" t-shirt...

[luckygenough56]

gangstas wannabe thread

[blajde]

BitCoin was adopted because it was a new technology with a use. DarkCoin is not new. It's jsut another cryptocurrency in the minds of the masses, if they even manage to hear about it. And said masses already view BitCoin as CrimCoin. DarkCoin only names itself worse... I don't give a shit what it's called, either. I don't give a shit about marketing, either. I DO give a shit about the success of a damn good idea, and naming it RapeYourDaughterCoin doesn't help it succeed.

Let me say it another way... I don't care if a guy has tattoos and piercings all over his face, if he does a damn good job, I'm giving him a raise. But, how many people like me do you think there are? How many job interviews will he be thrown out of before he finds me and I hire him?

There is a pall cast whether you like it or not. Anything cryptocurrency is already thought of as CrimeCoin. That's reality. Ignoring reality does not result in success. Naming it in a way that amplifies this already existing shadow doesn't help it succeed. That's just how it is.

I'm nobody's boss here, I could barely make the stuff work and am considered an asshole just because I'm not king high nerd. But this messenger knows what he is talking about. Ignoring reality will hurt your coin. If I invented RapeYourDaughterCoin and it did everything exactly the way BitCoin does, a perfect clone, and BitCoin never existed... How well do you think that would have gone? And that's in a vaccuum... You're not operating in a vacuum, a shadow is already cast, RapeYourDaughterCoin would do even worse today than it would have as the groundbreaking leader.

No, the name won't make it succeed. But, it can make it fail.

Ah yes... put somebody in a position where they have to defend something as ridiculous as "RapeYourDoughterCoin"  coin ... nice tactic. I will re-brand it to (RYDC)

Your saying Bitcoin (BTC) was successful because it was new technology , I said because it solved double spend problem so we agree .  You say dark coin is not new .  If DRK (let' substitute RYDC) implements anonymous features first in the next few days that no other coin has in the most efficient way then you are incorrect. If RYDC was the only coin that was truly anonymous then yes I would use RYDC and so would you. You would use it because you are the type of person who can see past tattoos and piercings and value it based on what it is instead of an irrelevant name. If the decision comes down to conducting my illegal raw milk commerce in RYDC's or potentially getting tracked down I will use RYDC's.  

People seem to think that using the coin in the way it is being designed (and arguably intended) is somehow wrong and we should pretend that it is not really the reason why this coin was created. I say embrace it.

The real reason people are complaining (probably earlier adopters) is because they see this as an investment instead of a currency. If I am going to trade my raw milk or illegal honey for DRK/RYDC do you think I care what the USD value is if I am converting or trading? Just like BTC If you are earning and spending coins tied back to a more stable value like USD (*relatively)  then it does not affect you much.  However it seems most people are not here for free market currency but more for get rich quick.

Government is going to drive adoption of something like this because of making everything over regulated and illegal (as I was referencing with milk and honey that non "criminals" can understand). "Dark" in the parlance of our time is about being hidden and anonymous and it is a positive thing not a negative.  It's not just about heroin and kidiporn eventually most of us will have a use for something like DRK/RYDC  because we will all be made into criminals. I can see it now kids speak easy lemonade stands because they have been shut down by bureaucrats and badge thugs and are accepting DRK and RYDC's.

What did RYDC's stand for I forgot... Kind of like how googole/google became a verb.  

I'm not putting anyone in a position to defend RapeYourDaughterCoin. I'm making an analogy. Straw man, dead.

I'm not calling you wrong. I'm saying that ignoring reality does not change reality.

There exists a stigma. It's a fact. You've 'embraced' it, but who else will? You're essentially saying "Yes, we mean to be the CrimeCoin for which BitCoin only managed to be a half-measure." When you could be saying "It's no more criminal than cash."

You and I both know that there is no difference. Functionally, they do the same thing regardless of the propaganda or marketing. But propaganda and marketing do affect the weak minds of the general population. They already view BitCoin as CrimeCoin because they are weak-minded, so coming out and calling yourself WayMoreCrimeCoin isn't helpful. I'm not saying the sky will fall as a result, just that it isn't helping... I could wet my pants in a job interview, and it might not ruin my chances if everyone else does worse, but it isn't going to help me... I could just NOT wet my pants, how's that? Just like I can NOT stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork. I can also NOT name my altcoin in such a way as to make people even more stupidly wary of something they're already stupidly wary about... You can't force people to be smart. I've tried...

It's a moot point because changing the name at this point is silly. I still like ChameleonCoin tho...

Personally, I love Crime, and I'd love CrimeCoin. Crime is just the act of taking back human rights stolen by government. I'm proud of Crime. Crime is good. But, how many people understand that and agree with me? Maybe I should get an "I Love Crime" t-shirt...

I understand the fundamentals but rape and theft is ok?

What is this reality you speak of? Is it somewhere lurking in the hybris complex?

[Lexomatico]

how are you supposed to setup a new pool without getting the x11-hash-python module? why did the op remove it from the repo?

[camosoul]

I understand the fundamentals but rape and theft is ok?
What is this reality you speak of? Is it somewhere lurking in the hybris complex?

Did I say Rape and Theft were OK?

A Square is a Rhombus, but a Rhombus is not a Square.

There are things that are both Illegal, and also Immoral. I have a problem with that which fits the latter. If the law happened to get it right, too, well, good for the law... Give it a cookie. It isn't what I base the matter upon because the law is usually wrong and does more harm than good in almost all situations. ALMOST, I said...

[blajde]

I understand the fundamentals but rape and theft is ok?
What is this reality you speak of? Is it somewhere lurking in the hybris complex?

Did I say Rape and Theft were OK?

A Square is a Rhombus, but a Rhombus is not a Square.

There are things that are both Illegal, and also Immoral. I have a problem with that which fits the latter. If the law happened to get it right, too, well, good for the law... Give it a cookie. It isn't what I base the matter upon because the law is usually wrong and does more harm than good in almost all situations. ALMOST, I said...

well you like crime.. rape and theft = usually crimes.

The law isn't wrong or bad...

it's just outdated and cannot keep up - and never will.

[mannie]

I understand the fundamentals but rape and theft is ok?
What is this reality you speak of? Is it somewhere lurking in the hybris complex?

Did I say Rape and Theft were OK?

A Square is a Rhombus, but a Rhombus is not a Square.

There are things that are both Illegal, and also Immoral. I have a problem with that which fits the latter. If the law happened to get it right, too, well, good for the law... Give it a cookie. It isn't what I base the matter upon because the law is usually wrong and does more harm than good in almost all situations. ALMOST, I said...

well you like crime.. rape and theft = usually crimes.

The law isn't wrong or bad...

it's just outdated and cannot keep up - and never will.

Can you guys take this somewhere else? Let's keep this forum to productive talk about DRK huh?

[TanteStefana]

going off topic, and being a coward on top of that, LOL, I was wondering if anyone knows about icoin.  They advertise "Transactions occur anonymously, and are confirmed through a decentralized peer-to-peer public ledger. The only set of eyeballs on your wallet are your own. " yet, skimming through their thread, I see nothing about how they make the transactions anonymous.  They are wonderful about self promotion, though!  We could use some great people like that here.  

Anyway, I'm a coward because I don't want to ask on their thread, 'cause I might get flamed    

[camosoul]

I understand the fundamentals but rape and theft is ok?
What is this reality you speak of? Is it somewhere lurking in the hybris complex?

Did I say Rape and Theft were OK?

A Square is a Rhombus, but a Rhombus is not a Square.

There are things that are both Illegal, and also Immoral. I have a problem with that which fits the latter. If the law happened to get it right, too, well, good for the law... Give it a cookie. It isn't what I base the matter upon because the law is usually wrong and does more harm than good in almost all situations. ALMOST, I said...

well you like crime.. rape and theft = usually crimes.

The law isn't wrong or bad...

it's just outdated and cannot keep up - and never will.

I like MOST crime because MOST laws are evil, happy? ;-)

The law is created by oppressors for the purpose of oppression. Exclusively and always. Every once in a while the law does something for show, to act like it benefits somebody, so it chooses to agree with obvious things, like Rape and Murder, to give itself cover from all the evil it does. A token good thing to distract you from the millions of bad things.

It stemmed from the DarkCoin name debate, but yeah, it's gone OT... My bad.

[M-S-K]

Nice price action tonight

[camosoul]

They are wonderful about self promotion, though!  We could use some great people like that here.

Promotion... DarkCoin drew my attention through it's lack of promotion. So many Pump and Dump alt coins with no purpose and/or obvious fatal flaws re-branded as a feature... It' not a bug, it's a feature! It's not a horribly shitty idea, it's a feature, learn to like dumb things so I can leave you holding the bag after the pump...

Meh, see none of that crap with DarkCoin. It just quietly does what it says. ...with a terrible name. :-p

[mannie]

How do we get the word out about DarkSend going to beta?

[blajde]

How do we get the word out about DarkSend going to beta?

I'm spamming btc-e every now and then getting smaller bans as a result

[M-S-K]

They are wonderful about self promotion, though!  We could use some great people like that here.

Promotion... DarkCoin drew my attention through it's lack of promotion. So many Pump and Dump alt coins with no purpose and/or obvious fatal flaws re-branded as a feature... It' not a bug, it's a feature! It's not a horribly shitty idea, it's a feature, learn to like dumb things so I can leave you holding the bag after the pump...

Meh, see none of that crap with DarkCoin. It just quietly does what it says. ...with a terrible name. :-p

Very true  

[eizh]

going off topic, and being a coward on top of that, LOL, I was wondering if anyone knows about icoin.  They advertise "Transactions occur anonymously, and are confirmed through a decentralized peer-to-peer public ledger. The only set of eyeballs on your wallet are your own. " yet, skimming through their thread, I see nothing about how they make the transactions anonymous.  They are wonderful about self promotion, though!  We could use some great people like that here.  

Anyway, I'm a coward because I don't want to ask on their thread, 'cause I might get flamed    

As far as I can tell, it's "anonymous" in the same sense that Bitcoin is anonymous. Your public address isn't attached explicitly tied to your real identity.

This seems to be a generic scrypt clone, just with clean, professional marketing.

[TanteStefana]

How do we get the word out about DarkSend going to beta?

We don't until after Wednesday,    (I'm waiting for coin to clear till then, LOL)

[AlexGR]

I'm selling.  Doubled my money from purchase this morning.

The price on Mintpal and Cryptsy is going back down steadily.  

Which coin has more potential in the top 25?  I don't care which alt coin you pick...thats just a stupid comment!  Bitcoin.  Ill take bitcoin for most potential.

In terms of potential, you have to account for the money flow.

The chance of some bitcoin holders wanting anonymity and thus bitcoin capital flowing to anonymous alt-coins is a serious "possibility".

Personally I think BTC will try to remain "transparent" as to evade banning. The letter of the foundation to Congress etc said something like "hey everything is transparent" etc etc... I don't think they'll change that at BTC. So... When you have one option (transparency), you have 100% marketshare. When a second option is presented (anonymity), you can only lose marketshare versus the new option. It's like when a monopoly on something gets real competition. Its inevitable that some "clients" will move over to the new option. This translates to capital moving from BTC to DRK or anonymous clones, which in turns means, oh well, I don't have to break that down. That's why there's no need for spamming, charities and bullshit of this type. The money will find its way. It tends to do that pretty fast actually.

[TanteStefana]

going off topic, and being a coward on top of that, LOL, I was wondering if anyone knows about icoin.  They advertise "Transactions occur anonymously, and are confirmed through a decentralized peer-to-peer public ledger. The only set of eyeballs on your wallet are your own. " yet, skimming through their thread, I see nothing about how they make the transactions anonymous.  They are wonderful about self promotion, though!  We could use some great people like that here.  

Anyway, I'm a coward because I don't want to ask on their thread, 'cause I might get flamed    

As far as I can tell, it's "anonymous" in the same sense that Bitcoin is anonymous. Your public address isn't attached explicitly tied to your real identity.

This seems to be a generic scrypt clone, just with clean, professional marketing.

Yes, the marketing we need... maybe we really should bring Xcoin back.  It was a good name but there was an exchange of the same name that turned out to scam people, and we didn't want to be associated with them  

[eizh]

How do we get the word out about DarkSend going to beta?

Title change should be enough.

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