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[kadrek]

I just got my kill-a-watt that I ordered to play with. I plugged my rig into it, turned it on, and let it idle at the desktop for a while. The idle wattage was bouncing between 105 and 120 watts. I then started up the cpu miner, on an i5 4670k @ 4.5 GHz, and it ran at 182 watts. I then fired up sgminer on my 270x's, an asus dc2-270x and a sapphire dual-x or something like that, and it only went up to 330 watts. That seems a little too good to be true doesn't it? Only 148 watts to run two 270x's? I then ran a scrypt coin just to see what wattage it would pull and it went up to 490. I just wanted to say, X11 is great   I'm using even less energy than I thought! Though I have a feeling I'm not using the meter right for some reason  

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[TanteStefana]

Spoetnik, I really don't think this coin is profitable to mine if you want immediate rewards.  I think the reason so many people are mining, which is terrific, is because they believe the coin will be very valuable once DarkSend is completed, and many of us are excited to see what Evan comes up with next.  We see a lot of future development in this coin happening, Evan has dedicated himself to it, and we've seen how fast he can come up with solutions.  The beta versions of DarkSend are working really well, but he wants to improve it, make it better, so it's taking longer than it absolutely had to I'm sure, but then again, I know he's making it really awesome.

So that's probably the reason people are mining it even so the prices aren't reflecting the difficulty. I absolutely love the idea of having my wallet be as private as possible.  Personal finances are something that I feel we have a right to keep private.

Gosh, see? we're still missing the Gpu miner links on the front page, the guys are so busy!  But there is a link to mining hardware for Darkcoin, which is all about Gpu's so it isn't hare to figure out there must be a GPU miner for the coin.  In fact, people ask about it all the time, and they get a link pretty fast usually.  I'll ask Ape again to put it on page one...

Oh one more thing, a page or so back, eduffield (Evan) said they'd start posting announcements on our forum;

https://www.darkcointalk.org/forums/official-developer-thread.15/

And they've begun to do so!  I think we're slowly trying to migrate to that forum 

[TanteStefana]

I just got my kill-a-watt that I ordered to play with. I plugged my rig into it, turned it on, and let it idle at the desktop for a while. The idle wattage was bouncing between 105 and 120 watts. I then started up the cpu miner, on an i5 4670k @ 4.5 GHz, and it ran at 182 watts. I then fired up sgminer on my 270x's, an asus dc2-270x and a sapphire dual-x or something like that, and it only went up to 330 watts. That seems a little too good to be true doesn't it? Only 148 watts to run two 270x's? I then ran a scrypt coin just to see what wattage it would pull and it went up to 490. I just wanted to say, X11 is great   I'm using even less energy than I thought! Though I have a feeling I'm not using the meter right for some reason  

No, you are using it alright I wrote a few pages back about that. I also got like 45% - 50% less wattage. I hope dev reads this and can correct this on the front page. And this "less wattage" information is even worth putting in the title (like it was before)

Aw heck, I misspelled Clyde!  Oh well they're only cows....right?  LOL

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[HammerHedd]

Satoshi Litoshi and now how about...

Duffie?

Whitfield Diffie > Duffield  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitfield_Diffie

Darkcoin + Evan = Darvan

satoshi : bitcoin

darvan : darkcoin

[HammerHedd]

I just got my kill-a-watt that I ordered to play with. I plugged my rig into it, turned it on, and let it idle at the desktop for a while. The idle wattage was bouncing between 105 and 120 watts. I then started up the cpu miner, on an i5 4670k @ 4.5 GHz, and it ran at 182 watts. I then fired up sgminer on my 270x's, an asus dc2-270x and a sapphire dual-x or something like that, and it only went up to 330 watts. That seems a little too good to be true doesn't it? Only 148 watts to run two 270x's? I then ran a scrypt coin just to see what wattage it would pull and it went up to 490. I just wanted to say, X11 is great   I'm using even less energy than I thought! Though I have a feeling I'm not using the meter right for some reason  

No, you are using it alright I wrote a few pages back about that. I also got like 45% - 50% less wattage. I hope dev reads this and can correct this on the front page. And this "less wattage" information is even worth putting in the title (like it was before)

Aw heck, I misspelled Clyde!  Oh well they're only cows....right?  LOL

hahahaha That's awesome!

[Kuriso]

Just a reminder, there is a 60 Darkcoin Bounty (may be more) to fix the R9 290 bug with the miner.

Summary of the problem: after 9 minutes, I loose 10% of max-hasrate I can only recover with a reboot.

The loss happened on the exact same second for all the 290 in the rigg.
The cards in the same rigg that are not 290 did not suffer a loss.
The problem happened on 3 different motherboard.
Many other people have the same problem with the same cards on various OS.
I have the problem on Bamt with different drivers.
I have the same problem with or without overclocking.
If I launch 4 different sgminer, each one with one card active, even if theres is a delay between the launch, about 9 minutes later, at the exact same second, the loss happened.
I put a second PSU on my rigg: does not change a thing: at the exact same second, no matter what psu the card is plugged in, the loss happened
Once the loss happened, My cards remain stable but there is a 10% loss in max-hasrate.
Before and after the drop, gpu-engine, gpu-clock, intensity seems to remain the same.

If it's a bug, it's not effecting me.  I am using 10 Sapphire R9 290 Tri-x and have no problem keeping hashrate. I run a solid hash of 2.5xx on 8 of my cards.  Combined WU of 0.174/m.  The other 2 have always ran a little slower at 2.3xx-2.4xx.  I run these cards non-stop and have never had a hashrate drop.

My setup:

Two rigs with 5 Sapphire 290's model # 11227-00-4G
Each with dual supernova 1000 g2 psu
Windows 8.1 Enterprise
Running sgminer 4.1.0-85-gccc7d (have also used the sph-sgminer but moved to this other version because some of the dashboard wasn't working right)

"gpu-platform" : "1",
"device" : "0,1,2,3,4",

"kernel" : "darkcoin",

"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-memclock" : "1375",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",

"intensity" : "20",
"thread-concurrency" : "25601",
"worksize" : "128",
"lookup-gap" : "2",

[Spoetnik]

Spoetnik, I really don't think this coin is profitable to mine if you want immediate rewards.  I think the reason so many people are mining, which is terrific, is because they believe the coin will be very valuable once DarkSend is completed, and many of us are excited to see what Evan comes up with next.  We see a lot of future development in this coin happening, Evan has dedicated himself to it, and we've seen how fast he can come up with solutions.  The beta versions of DarkSend are working really well, but he wants to improve it, make it better, so it's taking longer than it absolutely had to I'm sure, but then again, I know he's making it really awesome.

So that's probably the reason people are mining it even so the prices aren't reflecting the difficulty. I absolutely love the idea of having my wallet be as private as possible.  Personal finances are something that I feel we have a right to keep private.

Gosh, see? we're still missing the Gpu miner links on the front page, the guys are so busy!  But there is a link to mining hardware for Darkcoin, which is all about Gpu's so it isn't hare to figure out there must be a GPU miner for the coin.  In fact, people ask about it all the time, and they get a link pretty fast usually.  I'll ask Ape again to put it on page one...

Oh one more thing, a page or so back, eduffield (Evan) said they'd start posting announcements on our forum;

https://www.darkcointalk.org/forums/official-developer-thread.15/

And they've begun to do so!  I think we're slowly trying to migrate to that forum  

ya i figured that and i will prob mine it a bit..i have a few idle cpu's i can use the fastest being my desktop Intel core i7 4770k
although i don't see too much of a future for the coin to be honest.. any so called new features here are not enough for an impact i think.
and i highly suggest the OP put a link to GPU miners on page one for credibility reasons alone.
Otherwise it looks like the coin is being pushed as a cpu only coin when it's not like on that CPU only coins list topic.

and i don't pay for electricity so whether it uses less or not i couldn't care less lol
watching my CPU cores i see only partial usage too so that may explain the lower usage..
on average they are using 80% of my cores / threads i am testing 6 threads out of 8 leaving two idle for support for cgminer
and i am seeing between 65 and 87% fluctuating.. so maybe scrypt miners are simply coded to be more efficient ? accident ? lol

[sia331]

Really wish the price would start going up instead of down though

Don't worry, the price will rise.
This is a very promising market, although the experience blow, I believe prices will rise a certain!

[pa1318]

Anyone mining with a R9 270 or R9 270X? What are your configs and MH/s?

getting 1.3 on an msi 270x with:

--thread-concurrency 16768 -I 18 --temp-cutoff 83 -g 2 --gpu-engine 1175 --gpu-memclock 1500

runs about 14c cooler than 450khash scrypt mining to boot.

my msi 270x use this conf got too much hw,why?

[tifozi]

Just a reminder, there is a 60 Darkcoin Bounty (may be more) to fix the R9 290 bug with the miner.

Summary of the problem: after 9 minutes, I loose 10% of max-hasrate I can only recover with a reboot.

The loss happened on the exact same second for all the 290 in the rigg.
The cards in the same rigg that are not 290 did not suffer a loss.
The problem happened on 3 different motherboard.
Many other people have the same problem with the same cards on various OS.
I have the problem on Bamt with different drivers.
I have the same problem with or without overclocking.
If I launch 4 different sgminer, each one with one card active, even if theres is a delay between the launch, about 9 minutes later, at the exact same second, the loss happened.
I put a second PSU on my rigg: does not change a thing: at the exact same second, no matter what psu the card is plugged in, the loss happened
Once the loss happened, My cards remain stable but there is a 10% loss in max-hasrate.
Before and after the drop, gpu-engine, gpu-clock, intensity seems to remain the same.

Did you ever try this ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5857809#msg5857809

[ErrorId]

watching my CPU cores i see only partial usage too so that may explain the lower usage..
on average they are using 80% of my cores / threads i am testing 6 threads out of 8 leaving two idle for support for cgminer
and i am seeing between 65 and 87% fluctuating.. so maybe scrypt miners are simply coded to be more efficient ? accident ? lol

My current cpu usage mining DRK. Looks like you're not running the miner optimized for your cpu. I had the same problem.

So no not an accident just lack of research.

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[TanteStefana]

Anyone mining with a R9 270 or R9 270X? What are your configs and MH/s?

getting 1.3 on an msi 270x with:

--thread-concurrency 16768 -I 18 --temp-cutoff 83 -g 2 --gpu-engine 1175 --gpu-memclock 1500

runs about 14c cooler than 450khash scrypt mining to boot.

my msi 270x use this conf got too much hw,why?

This coin runs better on lower intensity.  Try -I 14 and work your way up.  I doubt you'll go over 16 before you start getting HW errors

[TanteStefana]

Spoetnik, I really don't think this coin is profitable to mine if you want immediate rewards.  I think the reason so many people are mining, which is terrific, is because they believe the coin will be very valuable once DarkSend is completed, and many of us are excited to see what Evan comes up with next.  We see a lot of future development in this coin happening, Evan has dedicated himself to it, and we've seen how fast he can come up with solutions.  The beta versions of DarkSend are working really well, but he wants to improve it, make it better, so it's taking longer than it absolutely had to I'm sure, but then again, I know he's making it really awesome.

So that's probably the reason people are mining it even so the prices aren't reflecting the difficulty. I absolutely love the idea of having my wallet be as private as possible.  Personal finances are something that I feel we have a right to keep private.

Gosh, see? we're still missing the Gpu miner links on the front page, the guys are so busy!  But there is a link to mining hardware for Darkcoin, which is all about Gpu's so it isn't hare to figure out there must be a GPU miner for the coin.  In fact, people ask about it all the time, and they get a link pretty fast usually.  I'll ask Ape again to put it on page one...

Oh one more thing, a page or so back, eduffield (Evan) said they'd start posting announcements on our forum;

https://www.darkcointalk.org/forums/official-developer-thread.15/

And they've begun to do so!  I think we're slowly trying to migrate to that forum  

ya i figured that and i will prob mine it a bit..i have a few idle cpu's i can use the fastest being my desktop Intel core i7 4770k
although i don't see too much of a future for the coin to be honest.. any so called new features here are not enough for an impact i think.
and i highly suggest the OP put a link to GPU miners on page one for credibility reasons alone.
Otherwise it looks like the coin is being pushed as a cpu only coin when it's not like on that CPU only coins list topic.

and i don't pay for electricity so whether it uses less or not i couldn't care less lol
watching my CPU cores i see only partial usage too so that may explain the lower usage..
on average they are using 80% of my cores / threads i am testing 6 threads out of 8 leaving two idle for support for cgminer
and i am seeing between 65 and 87% fluctuating.. so maybe scrypt miners are simply coded to be more efficient ? accident ? lol

Yes, I think we need someone to take the torch and optimize more of the algorithms in the miners.  Not being a programmer, I'm assuming that the 11 algorithms are only partially optimized.

And yah well, we think privacy is really important, so I guess it's worth it for us

[Spoetnik]

watching my CPU cores i see only partial usage too so that may explain the lower usage..
on average they are using 80% of my cores / threads i am testing 6 threads out of 8 leaving two idle for support for cgminer
and i am seeing between 65 and 87% fluctuating.. so maybe scrypt miners are simply coded to be more efficient ? accident ? lol

My current cpu usage mining DRK. Looks like you're not running the miner optimized for your cpu. I had the same problem.

So no not an accident just lack of research.

i am and know lots about it i have experimented with GCC/MingW flags etc for almost a year compiling cpu miners for QRK /SRC etc (as lots of people know)
and darkCoin-cpuminer-1.3 came with 5 optimized builds so no excuse..

[Spoetnik]

How many algos are even needed ? You can actually remove some in Quark and SRC and all their clones and still submit 100 perfect shares at a faster hash rate.
as i found out optimizing the hashing algo's this coin is cloned from lol
and guys have been optimizing them such as Unclebob and Neklizar and other guys.. some knowledge about what goes on in the scene would help guys lol

you know what since VTC has dropped so hard in price and become flooded with new miners and has been out for ages (December) and yet is STILL more profitable (almost 3x)
i should mine some VTC or what ever else and simply BUY Dark coins if i am doing it "because they will be sooooo much more evaluable later" LOL
Which i am not

lets here your response to that lol

edit:
the topic title is bs too.. First Anonymous Coin ? bs.
ASIC Resistant ? ya it's not scrypt so anything not scrypt or sha256 is..
and what is it then ? PRO-Botnet.
but hey lets spin as much bs about it as we can right ?

This coin was clearly based of some other coins (cloned) that suffer from some extreme Botnet problems.. when is that problem going to be fixed ?

[TanteStefana]

How many algos are even needed ? You can actually remove some in Quark and SRC and all their clones and still submit 100 perfect shares at a faster hash rate.
as i found out optimizing the hashing algo's this coin is cloned from lol
and guys have been optimizing them such as Unclebob and Neklizar and other guys.. some knowledge about what goes on in the scene would help guys lol

you know what since VTC has dropped so hard in price and become flooded with new miners and has been out for ages (December) and yet is STILL more profitable (almost 3x)
i should mine some VTC or what ever else and simply BUY Dark coins if i am doing it "because they will be sooooo much more evaluable later" LOL
Which i am not

lets here your response to that lol

The reason for all the algos is to make it as asic resistant as possible.  It's trying to buy time for a smoother growth transition.  If we were to have started off with script, we would have been 6 months old before ASICs hit the scene, and it would have just been a huge dump of mining power all of a sudden.

The idea is the more algorithms, the harder, more involved it is to make the ASIC.  That plus having a new algorithm also slows down the adaption.  There needs to be a critical mass of users before making an ASIC is profitable.

You ask good questions.  It's hard to see why Evan has done all the things he has done from first glance but he did have his reasons, though I'm sure not all of them turned out the way he had hoped

I do agree with you on finding the most profitable coin to mine.  Being that I just mine here due to laziness and to support the network, I really don't know how we hold up against other coins.  However, I do understand our hash rate is about 2.5 x higher with X11 and the difficulty is also about 2.5 times as high as script, so these numbers according to what other people say, make mining darkcoin comparable to script.  But like  I said, I don't know.

RE: First anonymous coin?  Where is there another, actually functioning anonymous coin?  Ours is still in closed source beta but it's working, you can download it and use it right now.  I know of no other coin that has a decentralized trustless solution like DarkSend.  Not that isn't still in the planning stages, and certainly not one that is as practical, lightweight and effective.

This coin has over 10,000 lines of new code.  Even when Darksend is open sourced, it's so interwoven into the wallet, it will take someone of skill to extract it and implement it into their own wallet.

You should take a little time to read the white paper linked on the first page.

[ErrorId]

as i found out optimizing the hashing algo's this coin is cloned from lol

This coin was clearly based of some other coins (cloned) that suffer from some extreme Botnet problems.. when is that problem going to be fixed ?

Please fill me in, I'd like to know which coin this one is a clone of.

[ErrorId]

i am and know lots about it i have experimented with GCC/MingW flags etc for almost a year compiling cpu miners for QRK /SRC etc (as lots of people know)
and darkCoin-cpuminer-1.3 came with 5 optimized builds so no excuse..

Obviously they weren't fully optimized then, guess I was one of the lucky ones who get's full cpu usage.